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  • RedShirt USS Enterprise, UT
    Oct. 1, 2012 1:36 p.m.

    To "Eric Samuelsen" nice to see that you live by Media Matters dictates. However, Obama is not pro-business, and the business leaders for some of our largest corporations would agree with that statement.

    Here are some examples:

    From the Washington Examiner "55 percent of small business owners would not start company today, blame Obama"

    From US News "Obama Administration Added $9.5 Billion in Red Tape in July" Businesses don't like red tape.

    From Bloomberg "Obama Seen as Anti-Business by 77% of U.S. Investors"

    From CNBC "Obama Administration Is 'Anti-Business': Jack Welch" and "Loews CEO: Obama Administration 'Anti-Business'"

    From Investors Business Daily "Wynn's Rant: One Among Many" there we here multiple CEOs declare how Obama is anti-business.

    As far as Obama being a moderate, again, you are wrong.

    From CBS News "National Journal: Obama Most Liberal Senator In 2007" You can't tell me that the left most senator is moderate.

  • Ultra Bob Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Sept. 30, 2012 7:02 p.m.

    Our government was created by businessmen for the benefit of those businessmen. And today our government is still operated for the benefit of and is controlled by: businessmen.

    The real truth is that it is the consumer who pays all taxes. Any tax money paid by a business is simply added to the price the consumer pays. Since the consumer has no one to pass the tax onto, the buck stops there. Businesses, businessmen, investors and everyone else involved in commerce are only temporarily involved in the process. Even the income tax paid by the businessman was originally taken from a consumer.

    “Workers”, rich or poor create wealth by their physical or mental labor. Other than gold dug out of the ground, all wealth comes from human effort.

  • Eric Samuelsen Provo, UT
    Sept. 30, 2012 2:51 p.m.

    While I certainly congratulate you for reading Forbes Magazine, Barack Obama is not a Fabian socialist. I wonder why conservatives trying to define the President have to find some timey, now-discredited philosophy, like Fabian socialism, or Dinesh D'Souza's 'anti-colonialism'. Since you're having so much difficulty, let me help.
    President Obama is a pro-business moderate.
    Evidence: health care reform is desperately needed and everyone knows it. President Obama chose the most market-friendly approach possible. The Left wanted single-payer; he went with a model pioneered by a Republican governor. Chap named Romney.
    Corporate profits, under Obama, have never been higher.
    The stock market is bullish.
    Despite every economist on the left insisting that employment stimulus had to be a higher priority than deficit reduction, Obama asked for only a small stimulus, and has publically touted Simpson-Bowles (loathed on the left).
    The President only looks radical to other radicals.

  • Eric Samuelsen Provo, UT
    Sept. 30, 2012 2:29 p.m.

    Ah, yes, more massive historical ignorance. Sorry, but lowering taxes for rich folks does not result in more federal revenue.

  • Kent C. DeForrest Provo, UT
    Sept. 30, 2012 1:33 p.m.

    Can Betsy Hart seriously believe what she wrote? Let's start here:

    "Such an orientation recognizes that wealth actually belongs to those who create it."

    Hello . . . Who actually creates the wealth of Exxon, or Apple, Target, or GM (assuming GM turns a profit)? Is it the CEO? A few hot-shot executives? The stockholders? Please. The people who actually create the wealth in most businesses are the people in the trenches. Sure, a good executive can make a big difference and ought to be compensated fairly for doing so--perhaps up to 10 times the salary of the ordinary worker. But until we start allowing the people who create the wealth to receive a fair share of it, we will have increasing inequality, a shrinking consumer base, and corporations that pay executives millions of dollars while they sit on piles of cash and do not hire people because "there is no demand."

    Do Republicans really believe the fantasy Betsy has concocted here?

  • 4601 Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 30, 2012 11:38 a.m.

    Fabian socialists would disagree. They believe government is omniscient and should be both omnipresent and omnipotent. Government is their god. Our president is a Fabian. He talks middle class, but does nothing to create meaningful jobs.