A1994.... sorry for the delayed response. Just watched the youtube video you
quote. And it does in fact say what you said it did.... with a some
explanation. It was talking about cap and trade - that for companies to clean
up their emissions, it would cost them money, and that they would indeed pass
those cost on... and in the end it would be the consumers who pay. All
matching your claim.But in historical context, this has been done
many times before. We made companies produce products without Lead in them...
gas and paint the most notable. We made car companies put in seat belts. We
made car companies meet safety standards. We have made toy companies remove
harmful chemicals from kids toys. We have removed DDT from food products. We
have made people who get jobs who work with kids have background checks. We
have required mines to improve employee safety. We added mandatory passenger
screening for flights. The list goes on, and they have all added
cost. And most would rational people would never go back to the way things
were before we added those cost to the system.So his comments
don't surprise me.
Maybe people's amnesia is clearing up and they are remembering that it was
the Republican Party that got us into the greatest recession since the Great
Depression...pray that more people will continue wake up and that their heads
will clear and that they will vote for their interests and not against
them...Wake Up we are NOT part of the 1% like Romney is!
The takers are out numbering the makers. This country is being led into a trap.
Utah Businessman,Predatory attacking weak or wounded business and
stripping them of their assets and disenfranchising the employees all for the
greedy reason of making millions to hide in off shore shell and foreign bank
accounts is not a business plan for a government economic recovery. It is not
even a good business plan for a moral business. Mitt Romney is not the face of
I don't know which is funnier or more enjoyable--watching conservatives
spin and insist that this is still Mitt's to win, or sitting back and
watching our beloved Presidents lead widen. Wonderful news to start the weekend.
Thank you. When a conservative leaning publication like the Des News admits that
it's all but over, only the foolish would try to pretend it's not.
@one vote"Romney is double-talking his way to a two digit loss.
The Senate and the house will follow the President."Yeah! When
Obama has control over both houses of congress, then he will finally be able to
get something done. Oh wait. He did.
Romney is double-talking his way to a two digit loss. The Senate and the house
will follow the President. The only thing left is the blame game and the media
is distancing them from the Romney ticket already.
@ Republicantthinkstraigh"Explain why we should vote for Romney?
And don't mention Obama once....lets hear it, policies and facts would be
nice to hear."1. He understands that what made America the
greatest nation in the world was Freedom, Personal Responsibility &
Accountability and Limited Federal Government Control and Interference.2. He understands business and economics and knows what needs to be done in
order to make the job creators want to start businesses, expand businesses and
hire workers.3. He promotes the principles of freedom and
opportunity so that those in need can get a job rather than depending on
government handouts and an "entitlement" mentality.4. He
has a proven track record in the business world in "turning around"
businesses (and the Olympics) that are not doing well.5. He
believes in giving the individual states the freedom and ability to make
decisions that will work for THEIR STATE, THEIR SCHOOLS, THEIR AREA, THEIR
PEOPLE, etc., rather than allowing the huge, bumbling Washington bureaucracy to
do the ineffective, inefficient "one size fits all" thing.6.
He believes in a strong military that promotes "peaces through
strength" rather than appeasing our sworn enemies.In short,
FREEDOM, RESPONSIBILITY, OPPORTUNITY!
Romney will not lose. If Obama wins the election, it's the people who will
@ECRyes President Obama is an American and yes he's
accomplished a lot in his personal career. But that doesn't erase the fact
that he hasnt created a single job, doubled the deficit, given more food stamps,
extended unemployment, has made this country look weak to the world, all the
while promising hope and change. He's a good person who tried his best but
America needs better.
What a wonderful gift Romney has been to the democratic party, this thing is
going to be a landslide giving Obama 4more years. The better candidate would
have been Huntsman, at least he had principle. Romney has changed his position
so many times on so many issues even he could not identify himself in a line-up.
What a train reck the republican party has become.
America is not stupid. The whole country doesnt believe fox news is the only
"Fair and balanced" media source. Quite the contrary. 90% of
Obama's so called defecits, are a direct result of the Bush administration.
From the tax cuts, to the unpaid for wars. The medicare part b program, and the
reduced revenues as a result. All have contributed mightily to the defecit.
Obama gets credit for the spending of George Bush. Now, all of these bills have
been put on the BObama's tab. Most people dont understand the reality, Or
choose not to. Republicans are content to listen to Hate radio, and fox news,
telling them how bad Obama is. They dont have a clue. Obama will win re election
EASILY. America is not stupid. We are moving forward,, not backward to the same
old tired failed policies of previous administrations. I just hope the democrats
win a few seats in the house and senate, so we can get a few things done,
instead of obstructioism, and gridlock.OBAMA 2012
Perhaps if Romney didn't campaign and remained silent he would do much
better in the polls. Insulting half of The population in the
country where Romney would like to be elected President boggles the mind. I am one of those 47 percent, I paid my income tax for 50 years and have
now retired and do not pay income tax so does that make me an entitlement cheat,
I don't think so.
@UtahBlueDevil"But claims that Obama wants higher energy cost
are just silly."Tee Hee. I just was thinking that because Obama
said, exactly, "Under my plan, electricity rates will necessarily
skyrocket." Are you not familiar with this statement? It's on youtube
if you want to go check it out. He was talking to the SF Chronicle. "Sometimes you have to spend to save."Who's money?
Hey it is not over till the fat lady sings.....
A1994... are we still trying to debate when the recession started? Why is that
even still relevant? It really is hard to make a case otherwise that the
recession spun out of control under the Bush Administration. And even with that
as a "Fact", it is hardly a proven fact that the Bush Administration
alone caused it. What can be said though is they didn't stop it.Skipping forward to today, it is completely reasonable to debate if there is
more Obama could have done given the political and global economic market.
Perhaps McCain could have prevented the recession in Europe. Perhaps McCain
could have turned back the Chinese manufacturing boom that had its roots some 40
years ago set. Perhaps.But claims that Obama wants higher energy
cost are just silly. But as with many things in life, sometimes you have to
spend money to save money long term. You replace a water heater a next
generation one that uses a fraction of the energy. You move to natural gas
power generation versus coal power because they scale easier (faster turn up and
shut down times), and require less emission controls. Sometimes you have to
spend to save.
@ A1994Of course, everything negative is Bush's fault.
@Bored to the point of THIS!"I hope Americans, true Americans
will be able to live with the outcome regardless."I don't
know if they can. I don't know if Obama supporters realize just how much
change is going to come with another term of Obama. He admits his energy policy
is going to skyrocket electricity rates. How does that POSSIBLY help the middle
class? He has been fairly quiet about cap and trade this term. But in a second
term, he will have no worries about re-election. His proposals will only grow
the national debt. He has no plan, whatsoever, to curb spending. It's
completely unsustainable. The economy will not grow. It cannot under his
policies. In four years, will this still be Bush's fault?
If Obama wins the country won't have to worry about how to treat the
rich----there won't be any.The fact people are lining up behind
him shows they're more interested in a good orator than a good
president.Maybe he can apologize for America another 4 or 5 times
before the election and grow the 47% that don't pay any taxes to around
80%, all the while shouting that the rich don't pay their fare share.Obama administration----what a piece of work. They won't even
enforce antipornography laws when the stuff is clearly illegal. I wonder what
type of society we'd be living in if Abama had his way on everything. It
sure wouldn't bring happiness to many folks, I'm certain.
I hope Obama wins the race. I know many Americans who don't trust Obama.
I understand their feelings. The reason I understand... I feel exactly the same
way about Romney! Trust is a funny thing! Who you trust is a matter of
perspective and experience. In my case, both are upheld by President Obama.
Both are infringed upon by Mitt Romney. I hope Americans, true Americans will
be able to live with the outcome regardless. I'll be able too.
Funny that people are calling this election with 6 weeks to go. Remember that
there are two more jobs reports to come out before November 6th. Also, Obama is
going to actually have to answer questions in the debates. He can't just
go on The View. He is soft and not used to having to defend his record. He is
going to lose points fast. I am completely confident that Romney is going to be
the next President. There is just no compelling reason to re-elect Obama.
Romney leads among Independents. That is who is going to decide the race.
Mitt Romney is no Ronald Regan. So, unless the current NFL ref's are
calling this election he has little chance to complete his Hail Mary on November
Explain why we should vote for Romney? And don't mention Obama
once....lets hear it, policies and facts would be nice to hear.
@Atl134Thanks for twisting the numbers as well as most politicians do on
both sides. 8.1% unemployment fails to include all those millions who cannot
find a job and are not eligible to be counted in the 8.1%. The more that become
ineligible, the more who are not counted. But 23 million unemployed is the
highest in the same decades you famously quote. BTW, they are also not counted
for NOT having health insurance. Good spin!On January 20, 2009 I was
paying around $1.90 per gallon for gas, and I'm now at $3.95. When during
the Obama years, has it ever dropped to levels we used to have every year or so?
Good spin!Many are forgetting the whole point of my posts. HE
PROMISED. He failed to deliver what he promised to own and fix. And he
promised that if he couldn't deliver it would be a one term affair. In
many areas we may be better, but in every area, he fell short of his promises.
And so does every politician. They all spin and you got snookered in by one
side and not the other.
SG: Any facts to back up those allegations? I mean you make allegations like
that you should have info to back it up right? So lets hear it.....
Keep in Mind Lefties...Carter was ahead of Reagan the day before the election by
16 Pts ...according to CBS~
I love it when people call it the "Liberal Media." Guess the only
reliable news source is Fox since that is the only news source you didn't
list. Oh and they don't happen to be pushing any agenda either and are
politically neutral (sigh). Give it up. The media isn't out
to get Romney.... They don't need to, he is doing just fine by himself.
They report what he says, what his actions are, and his record. Can't run
from your record and his record as Governor was awful (except romneycare which
he now is against oddly enough). Just look how good he is doing in MA. Get
over it Pubs, everytime he opens his mouth he contradicts himself. Its not the
media... Its Romney.
Polling lies period. You publish troubling numbers long enough the people will
become discouraged and not go to the polls to vote. I just hope we aren't
flooded with voter fraud, but I won't be surprised if we do. It happened in
2008 and will continue in 2012. Why not? Obama and his cronies have it all
figured out and everything is in place for widespread voter fraud. It's
what the democrat/socialist party has been doing for years. It won't
change. We need a reversal of fortune come November in order to turn the tide of
illegals in this country. It is time to remove every freebie within their grasp
so that they are forced to go back home. It is time to seal our borders. It is
time for term limits. There is so much that needs to be done and obama is NOT
the guy to do it.
re:UtahBlueDevilRasmussen was more accurate than ANY of the other
polls for the 2010 mid terms so what does that tell you? I recall seeing NY
Times and Wash Post polls in 2010 that consistently showed the democrat
candidate 5-7% ahead ... Rasmussen had the race a near tie and guess who was
right? The GOP actually won a land slide victory overall. The point is this -
polls are sort of pick your flavor things in many cases because if you are a
blue poll favoring liberals you can easily over sample democrat's and get
the numbers you want. If I am betting I would certainly NOT put my money on the
shaky idea that democrat's are going to be equally enthusiastic this time
around and the GOP will stay about the same. There are many disenchanted
independents and even democrat's this time because the historic nonsense of
hope and change is gone. Romney will have to do well in the debates and if he
does I suspect he will win a close election. Unfortunately there is a growing
ignorance and duming down in the voting public as never before so that favors
democrats no question.
@Belching CowRigid social conservatism is a huge part of this equation.
Even in highly religious groups (LDS) young people support gay marriage and
abortion rights at higher levels than their older counterparts in the group and
in non religious groups a vast majority support these items. Also immigration,
many young people perceive the Republicans as racist. While not all Republicans
are racist they do seem to attract a less racially tolerant element than the
Democratic party. Young Latino's make up a large part of the youth
population, in all honesty why would a Latino vote for the GOP with the type or
rhetoric coming from their party?
complete bogus polling. Check out the Rasmussen presidential polling web site.
In Ohio and Florida is it a near tie. That is reality. These democrat skewed
polls aren't fooling anyone but the Obama media - CNN, NBC, ABC, CBS -
isn't going to stop and neither is the other liberal news papers. This is
all garbage and to be honest if these polls put a smile on your face for some
sense of false security - go for it I guess. Again check out Rasmussen
presidential polling web site for a more accurate picture of the race. Rasmussen
was correct in 2010 when the "other" liberal leaning polls all showed
big leads for democrat's but the reality was a tight race and in many cases
a GOP slight lead which proved to be the case when the voting actually took
I really think the reason Obama appears to be ahead has nothing to do with the
financial situation. It is so blatantly obvious that the ship is sinking faster
than he can bail. I think it's ALL about how hip he appears as he banters
with celebs, favors gay marriage and abortion, and esentially hands out the pill
on street corners. THIS is what the younger generation relates to. Oh and the
poor who have bought into the idea that their country will take care of them
forever. It's a sorry shame. This country has sold out on
morals and good hard work.
@atl134See my previous post re the Health Care report from the
Institute of Medicine. It reports that a panel of people very knowledgeable
people regarding health care estimate that we are wasting $750 billion a year in
three areas--unneeded care, byzantine paperwork, and fraud and other waste. All
you have to do is look at federal bureaucracies in general to conclude that
Obamacare is only going to worsen the fiasco.The basic problem in
health care is that we have long since departed from the basic principles that
control costs and quality--personal responsibility and accountability. For the
first 35 years of my life we handled most health care costs under those
principles and essentially everyone could affort good health care--even though
many did NOT carry insurance. We now speak of health "care"
synonymously with health "insurance" as if insurance companies (AND the
federal government) have a money tree with which to pay the now astrononmical
costs. The fact is that, as a nation, we simply cannot afford to
pay $10,000 to $50,000 per patient day in the hospital, no matter the payment
mechanism. The only solution is to get back to basic principles.
Merich39 What a crazy accusation. No Romney and Ryan aren't going to end
SS and Medicare. They will try desperately to save them. But firstt they need to
get rid of Obamacare that will sink healthcare benefits and tax those who
don't need any more taxing. The fact of the matter is that with our
national financial situation the way it is, there is NO WAY they can continue to
function the way they have. We are OUT of money. 16 trillion in debt. Obama is a ticky guy but he's not going to be able to save these programs
any better than Romney.
We are close to the tipping point. When those with their hands out exceed those
putting their hands to work creating value, that is when our republic will fail.
@atl134To address just one of the fictitious items in your posts:
have you seen the reports the last couple of days about "soaring medical
costs" and the fact that there are now fewer people covered by health
insurance than a few months ago? There is an Associated Press story
dated September 6, 2012 that quotes a report by the Institute of Medicine, an
arm of the National Academy of Sciences which is very informative. It mentions
one of the great needs in this business where costs are
skyrocketing--"demanding accountability". That is precisely what we
have NOT done for the past 40 years as we have depended on employers and
insurance companies to take care of our health care costs. If we purchased
automobiles the way we purchase health care, we would get a Kia (yes, a Kia!)
and simply authorize the provider to send the $200,000 (yes, $200,000 for
something that we would personally pay only $15,000 for!) bill to our insurance
company and only worry about what "our share" is. And if you
think that Obamacare is going to solve the problem, you certainly are living in
a dream world.
Basic sampling theory says if one does random sampling (which these polls did)
then you don't even consider what party people put down. These polls
likely reflect the average respondent's views fairly accurately. An
entirely different question would be predicting who is likely to win each state.
Given the approximately ten point margins in the random sampling it is
virtually impossible that Romney could win in any of the three states IF the
election were held right now - no matter what happened to turn-out at the
margins. In forty days the story could well be different, but unless something
really big happens (Middle East total melt down, or Romney suddenly starts
appealing to all the people he has offended) President Obama will win with at
least 328 electoral votes. See www.electoral-vote.com for an explanation of
Last pres election there were 23 national polls. Rasmussen and Pew were right
on. of the remaining 21 polls 17 overstated the Obama advantage, 4 overstated
McCain support. I think these polls are fairly similar in their overstatement
of Obama advantage. I have my food storage, guns and ammo and ready in case BO
@Truthseeker"The race remains close and Obama still has to
overcome Republican's voter suppression efforts"Yes if
non-citizens, dead people, convicted felons and repeat voters are disallowed;
Democrats will suffer.
I don't buy these polls. What I would be interested in is seeing voter
registration records per answered call versus voter registration records for
calls gone unanswered. These polls carry as much weight as helium balloon
floating through space. My point is that the only thing they have hit is their
sample numbers... That is all. It is not an accurate reflection of how things
will go come November 6th. I look for Romney wins in these states by 15-20% of
the vote. We are a silent and proud majority and our cause will prevail!
I don't believe this propaganda. Romney and Obama neck to neck and this is
There is no question that the President has a silver tongue, and he talks a
great talk. The problem is that he doesn't walk the walk. He has
convinced so many with his words that they don't even pay attention to his
SaammyB... if your stock broaker was telling you that, then he is speaking out
the politcal side of his mouth rather than the logical one. The stock market is
an indicator of future results, not current one. When it drops, it is because
the market sees problems 6 months to a year out. Likewise when it rises. It
does not reflect even 10 minutes nto the past. It isn't even a "what
have you done for me lately" construct, it is a "what will you be doing
for me next quarter" mentality.The other thing you mention is
this tipping point - and that we are not there yet. In actuallty, we are way
beyond our european friends like the UK when you look at debt to GDP ratios.
That and while the Patriot act was over reaching, it has little busines impact.
SOX complaince regulations far more put a burden on companies. But
anyway, it would be interesting to get more details on what your friend is
thinking about this cliff he sees up approaching. People are betting with their
@OneAmerican"Of those who responded in Florida, 28% were Republicans
and 34% Democrat (+6 D); in Ohio 26% R and 35% D (+9 D), and in WI 28% R and 32%
D (+4 D)."Here's an important question... what is the voter
breakdown by affiliation in those states? So... I'll look it
up.Florida: 41% Democratic, 36% Republican (D+5)Ohio 37% Republican
36% Democratic (R+1) Wisconsin 38% Democratic 34% Republican (D+4)So for 2 of the 3 they have demographics that represented the state. So
the only one you really have this complaint be valid for is Ohio. I'm not
exactly sure how they got that large a difference... maybe they're using
the 08 turnout model or something... though even that would probably be off by a
couple points.@Cinciman"You just forget that he said it we
be a bipartisan initiative"Not his fault Republicans turned away
from a model implemented by Romney and pushed for until recently by the Heritage
@Cinci Man"He took us from $2 to $4, an increase of 100% almost
overnight. "In the summer of 2008 gas prices peaked at 4.11 a
gallon nationwide. Obama wasn't president then. The highest it's
gotten under Obama was about 3.95 nationwide."He promised new
energy sources and he hasn't kept that promise. "We are
less reliant on foreign oil than at any point in the past couple decades."Unemployment has risen and never dropped."It got to
around 10 and is now 8.1. "put Americans back to work."4.5 million private sector jobs created the past 2.5 years. "But he forgot that he promised to get deficit spending turned around into
balanced budgets."The promise was to cut the annual deficit in
half. If we smash through the fiscal cliff without adjustment we actually would
be cutting the annual deficit in half."He promised affordable
health care, but instead delivered soaring costs with fewer insurance
coverages."For the first time in over a dozen years the number
of people in America without health insurance decreased. Health insurance
premium costs increased in 2011 at the slowest rate in over a decade.
Everyone should keep in mind that a vote for Romney/Ryan is a vote to completely
kill Social Security and Medicare. If you know someone who relies
on SS or Medicare, or if you yourself rely on SS or Medicare, or if you ever
hope to receive SS or Medicare, then you need to get out and vote for Obama.
He's the only POTUS candidate in this election committed to making sure
those two programs survive. Romney/Ryan are committed to making sure those two
programs do not survive.
I think Mitt is a smart guy with lots of relevant experience.If he
could lose the GOP baggage that would tie his hands as president, I would
consider voting for him.But alas, he is not free to lead. The GOP
only wants someone to rubberstamp their flawed ideology.Per Grover,
We need a president with "enough working digits" to sign the Ryan
Budget and any other legislation that the GOP puts in front of him. Some people worry that Romney would be controlled from Temple Square. I
am more concerned that he WILL be controlled by the GOP.
Last week:Obama = 332Romney = 206This week:Obama = 347Romney = 191Only 270 Electoral College
votes are needed to win.Yep, I'd say Romney needs to try
a BYU vs.Boise statetgy and attempt the 2 point.or a Seattle Seahawk
hail mary pass, and hope the NON-Union "replacment" officials blow the
Cinci Man cont.When the president took office the economy was
killing 700,000 American jobs every month. We have now had more than two years
of positive numbers in the job market. Not enough, as the pident is the first
to point out, but it certainly is a turn around from where were in January of
2009.I know you folks are fond of restating Nancy Pelosi's
statement but I think even you know that what she meant was that we cannot
predict every impact the Affordable Care Act will have but passing it will be
better than doing nothing and letting the current system continue to eat all of
our money while making insurance executives wealthy.There are more
green jobs available today than ever before and the fact that all of this
information is available to both of us is due, in part, because this
adminstration has been more transparent than any before. It is also a product
of the new information age that makes information available, a fact that the
Obama Administration has embraced.
No matter how much liberty Obama takes from the people, conservatives with a
stiffened backbone will survive for another term. Those who sacrifice the most
are the last to surrender! Liberty will survive. Those who support socialism
are the Tories of our generation. Light and truth will win out in the end, but,
as in the days of our country's founding, it's not going to be easy
going. If Obama wins another term, gridlock will be the result. Liberty has
been around too much, for it to be destroyed. Gridlock will be a great victory!
Cinci Man - Politfac has published a list of 508 promises made by the Obama
Adminstration when it came into office. Their scorecard shows the
following:192 kept 73 compromised 85 not kept
47 stalled109 in the works 2 not yet ratedIf you
eliminate the 109 "in the works" group - because they could end up in
either "kept" or "broken" - and only count the "kept"
and "compromised", the president has a 67% success rate. Considering
the hostility of the Republican House of Representatives that is a remarkable
record.President Obama didn't raise your gas prices, it was the
oil companies who are now paying less for foriegn oil than they have in years so
you should ask yourself who it is you are trusting. The healthcare law
doesn't go into full effect until 2014 and we won't know how the costs
of premiums will change until then. And by the way, almost every aspect of that
law that is now so controversial were once supported by a majority of
Republicans and the Heritgae foundation. But once the first black president
proposed them, those issues became poison. Cont.
Doug10Once again we see that many are forgetting what Obama promised. He
promised. He promised. He promised. What is so hard to get about the fact
that he promised to own the gas prices and to keep them low by allowing free
enterprise to drive prices downward through exploration (good old fashioned
R&D) and NOT stifling new enterprises aimed at NEW and INNOVATIVE energy
solutions. Obama made those promises and he got elected because of his MANY
promises. His record should be on the table in this election, not his second
term promises that echo his first term promises. I do not write about world
prices of oil. I write about domestic energy costs, including what I pay at the
pump, which Obama promised to keep low. Instead, it double during the period of
his promise and claim to ownership, that got him elected. Don't you
remember his eloquent speeches?
Truthseeker,A friend of mine is married to an extremely successful
stock broker who says that the insiders know that things are falling apart fast.
The government control that has been put in place the last few years, and even
the Patriot Act under a Republican president, has changed the structure of our
nation. If Obama has another 4 years, he will do what Tony Blair did in his
second term, according to the Brits. He went on a fast track to socialism and
they are already past the tipping point, and it shows.We are not yet
past the tipping point, but we are close. If Obama's agenda continues (if
you study his background and policies, you will see he clearly has one) then we
will be far past the tipping point at the end of another four years. Many of you
want that so I will convince no one here of anything.
Yep BO feeling really good about himself, go ahead and relax. Mitt Romney will
keep on working hard.Wish the election would be here now. Funny how
those Democrat Media playing around on their computers.
re;southern heat"We are no better off than when Obama first started
making his promises."That is not a credible statement. When Obama became President, the economy was shedding 700,000 jobs per month.
The steepest decline in employment of any recession in history. The
unemployment rate peaked at 10%. The stock market declined from 14,000 to
6,600. Today, the unemployment rate is 8.1. As of July, Obama is
averaging +0.84 percent annual job growth in his term. That places him ahead of
Bush, who saw +0.51 percent growth in his first term and -0.84 percent in his
second term. Obama is also tracking better than George H.W. Bush, who presided
over +0.69 percent growth during his one term in the White House.The
stock market is at 13,650. While we have made progress, much more
progress is needed. What have Republicans in Congress done to create jobs? How has a focus on debt reduction in Europe helped their economy? It hasn't. Pass the American Jobs Act!
It must great being a member of the far right. If you don't like the news
its because of the bias left wing liberal media. If you don't like the
polls its because they counted the wrong people. If we are talking about a
democrat its open season to trash them personally, but if its a republican you
can't question them because its the politics of hate. If someone
especially a democrat suggests that we have to raise taxes on the wealthiest of
Americans who have prospered more than anyone else in the last 30 years its
class warfare. If you think that the lower income people should be paying more
taxes (remember sales tax and FICA taxes are taxes too) then you are just
stating the facts. I could continue but I am limited to 200 words.Bottom line Mr. Romney will lose and the republicans will continue to tell
themselves how great they are and how evil the other side is. I am a
conservative and a moderate, I would like to vote republican, but I cannot
support the tea party mentality that has overtaken the party, and quite frankly
I am not alone!
Good grief the rhetoric that is repeated here is amazing.Nearly
every country in this world (there are 100's of them) uses gasoline and yet
USA president is responsible for the world gas prices, because it is the world
not USA that sets oil prices? do you really believe that?. If oil companies had
more oil they sell it on the open market, they do not keep it to sell to
Americans. They are private firms built up to make money.Paul
Volcker (GOP fed chairman) says over the next term Pres Obama will increase the
deficit by 800 billion and Mitt will increase it by 1.2 trillion. Vote your
wallet or vote for Mitt to have yet a higher deficit.The dems have
created more jobs since 1970 by 3 times than have the GOP, so tell me why vote
for the GOP.Mitt can fix the debt but chooses not to as he would
have to upset the big banks and money players.hard facts are the
debt is less with the existing regime and for that reason it makes no sense to
elect Mr. Romney.Were either party to actually address the debt they
would be swept into power.
Colorado’s Republican Secretary of State ordered Denver to not mail
ballots to any voter who didn’t vote in 2010. Why Denver? Anyone’s
guess, but Denver has the state’s highest concentration of blacks and
Hispanics.A Denver judge intervened saying he had no right to do
that. But the guy wouldn’t quit. Next, he mailed out 4,000 letters to
residents he suspected of not being citizens demanding they produce proof of
citizenship and eligibility to vote. A local news station ran computer searches
on other databases that showed 82% of them as citizens with the rest needing
further checking. So far, the Secretary of States office hasn’t found a
single one who isn’t a citizen. Now, I’m just waiting to see what
the guy tries next.That’s just Colorado. There are news
reports of this type of thing going on across the country.
Ann Coulter called this over a year ago, "If we don't nominate Chris
Christie, Romney will win the nomination and we'll lose". Republicans
have the habit of choosing the nominee that lost 4 years earlier. This blind
loyality doomed them in 2008 and will again this year. Democrats pick a fresh
face with a new exciting message. Romney has run the worst campain since George
McGovern. The only credible reason he has given to vote for him is that he is
not Obama. People want more than that but he constanly changes his opinions,
comes accross stiff while campaigning, and appears to be distrustful to the
majority of Americans. To bad Republicans can't have a do-over on the
primary. It's looking more like 4 more years of B.O.
@ECRSo it seems as though you have forgotten his promises, too, just as
Obama has and so many Americans have. And you deny that gas went from $2 to $4
rapidly and that Obama made the promise to create new and cheaper sources of
energy. Are there any promises that you recall? Oh yeah, you remember the
health care reform promise. You just forget that he said it we be a bipartisan
initiative and that instead, he deals in the backroom with democrats. I
remember the great line, "We have to pass it to know what is in it" by
Pelosi. And the passage was clearly admitted by the Democrats, including Obama,
to be a Democrat Party (not bipartisan) victory.I did not right that
everything is the President's fault. I simply wrote that Obama promised to
take all these things on, own them, and fix them. HE said it, not me. Try to
remember please and comment on those facts specifically.
The debates should be interesting but It will be hard for Romney to change his
image now. The republican platform is what it is.
I had a psychology professor years ago who worked for the government also by
developing polling questions. She admitted in class one day that they could get
a poll to come out however they wanted by carefully shaping the question.What makes me sad is that the reason the polls are manipulated is that
many people are swayed by what other people (supposedly) think and not by their
own research and commitment.
The forecast models assume that record numbers will turn out to vote for Obama
again. Not likely, though Obama is doing his best to scare people about losing
their entitlements.And Independent voters are not impressed with Obama.Conservatives are more reliable when it comes to turn out and they clearly
won't vote for Obama.It'll be an interesting election.Remember, it's all about electoral votes so urban precincts have the
I love it.. it you don't like the news, discredit the messanger.
Today's RealClearPolitics survey of polls has every source including the
conservative favorite Rasmussen Tracking having it at a tie (only Rasmeeusen has
it that way) or a widening gap. FoxNews has Obama up by 5%. In North Carolina
the swing in RCP pool averag has gone from Romney +6 to Obama +1 in the matter
of two weeks.Will the pools change more - of course. They
don't indicate anything yet other than trends. But to discredite the
results because you don't like them... good grief. Are we saying FoxNews
has swung to pro-Obama?
@Mayhem MikeThat's one think I don't understand. Why are the
younger voters so enamored with Obama? It's painfully obvious that he is
destroying all hopes for a prosperous future for them. Even though I am middle
aged and debt free if Obama wins it is going to be very painful. I've
already had to cut my spending cause of the skyrocketing cost of living and no
wage increases. If Obama wins there will be a lot of his young followers living
in their parents basement and delivering pizzas when they get out of college.
Through out history, most people have lived in poverty.At some
point, they were deceived into excepting corrupt leadership.Like a
mouse walking into a trap, the people of America are marching into poverty. A
government, which is in debt sixteen trillion dollars, will not be able to
sustain the handouts, and the reactions of our citizens won't be pleasant.
The gap will continue to widen. While I had looked forward to Romney
taking over Bushes job of providing endless material for comedians.His
daily comments have become less humorous and kinda sad in showing just how
disconnected he actually is.
It's a slow morning so I really appreciate the comic relief reading the
comments. I heard a discussion last night about how the right is planting seeds
of doubt about political polls so that if President Obama wins the election they
will already have a foundation for claiming the election is not legitimate. And
then Cinci Man reiterates the common Republican mantra of how everything wrong
with America is the President's fault and everything right has happened in
spite of his efforts.I wish the right would just accept that a young
man whose father is from Africa and whose mother is a white woman from Kansas
really was born in the United States, really is a natural born citizen, really
did work hard in school and eventually found himself at Columbia University and
then Harvard Law School, and yes, rather than take a job with a high powered law
firm, he chose to be a community organizer working with people whose
circuimstances were less than positive, and finally, after winning a state and
national senate seat, was elected by a majority of Americans to lead the nation.
Just get over it.
Nice to see that some out there understand what a "survey" really means.
The media pump out these surveys and make sure they say what they want them to
say. Was watching the news last night and it said, just 10 hours ago, that the
races were neck and neck and now the DN says Obama is "widening his
lead"...what lead? Maybe they can run a survey that shows how spending
trillions of dollars has helped us??? We are no better off than when Obama first
started making his promises. Maybe they can run a survey showing how we actually
are worse off. Go figure!!
I've said it before and I'll probably say it again, but these forums
are going to be a blast after Obama wins...
The race remains close and Obama still has to overcome Republican's voter
1conservative brought a welcome laugh this morning. Anyone who thinks Obama will
make things better with a more republican and conservative house and senate is
kidding themselves. The gridlock is going to wonderful to see, at least from
the standpoint of a conservative who knows that government is not the answer.
His election will only hurt those who can least afford it, the poor. So much
for Democratic compassion.
The best indication of polling results is to check out the average of many
polls. RealClearPolitics has a daily average of the top polls which tends to
smooth out the inherent errors of polling. The RCP data shows Obama up by 3.6%
nationally and doing even better in the swing states. (They even include the
right biased Rassmussen and Fox polls.)Romney is clearly having
problems with his campaign, it will be interesting to see if the desperation
starts to unhinge his efforts, or if he can turn things around. Let's hope
Mitt has more luck than King Canute.
Hey, I'm a Romney supporter, but go ahead and vote for Obama---what do I
care? I've got MY Social Security and Medicare checks coming along nicely,
and, I can afford higher gas prices. Also, my private practice is doing quite
nicely. It's you younger (Obama) supporters that may pay the price for
continued deficit spending.
Don't fall for this one folks...This poll was HIGHLY SKEWED toward Democrat
voters. The internals tell the story. Of those who responded in Florida, 28%
were Republicans and 34% Democrat (+6 D); in Ohio 26% R and 35% D (+9 D), and in
WI 28% R and 32% D (+4 D). When asked whether they considered themselves Strong
Republicans versus Not Strong the breakdown was 73/25, 63/35, and 71/27
respectively. When asked if they were Strong Democrat versus Not Strong, the
breakdown was 73/25, 73/26, and 77/23. Turnout will not mirror these numbers.
When you run the numbers based on an average of who ACTUALLY voted in 2004 and
2008, Romney wins in landslide. Voter turnout will more likely be similar to
2010, a Republican rout, and could even be WORSE for the democrats than in 2010
because Obama has dropped even more in favorability since 2010 with no turn
around in the economy. So, you can take this attempt at conservative voter
suppression with a grain of salt...i.e...this poll is, otherwise, meaningless.
And prepare yourself for cooked positive numbers in the economy in October as
This is all in the bible.Things aren't supposed to get better.Just prepare, and get ready to defend your home.
We are a polarized nation of makers and takers. Soon, we will find out if the
takers continue to outnumber the makers.
A vote for Obama is a vote for $6 - $8 gasoline prices. He took us from $2 to
$4, an increase of 100% almost overnight. We have no new energy initiatives. He
promised new energy sources and he hasn't kept that promise. Unemployment
has risen and never dropped. He promised he would own and repair the economy
and put Americans back to work. He promised the unions he would picket right
with them, and once again, he didn't keep that promise. He now says he
wants us to trust him to rebuild America. His shovel ready jobs never appeared,
except for one. He promised unprecedented transparency, and we got backroom
deals. One thing he promised that he truly kept. He promised more food stamps
and welfare giveaways. But he forgot that he promised to get deficit spending
turned around into balanced budgets. He promised affordable health care, but
instead delivered soaring costs with fewer insurance coverages. But of course,
all his failures are the fault of the Republicans. That's another promise
he kept. Why do so many Americans want to give him another term?
@1conservativeDon't worry, I'm sure someone will be along
shortly to assure you that the polls are "over sampling Democrats." KSL
is already running with it.
I still cannot figure out why anyone would want to vote for Obama. What is this
country coming to? He has spent half of his time in office campaigning instead
of doing his job. I don't mean my comments as an insult to anyone who would
vote for Obama. I am simply not understanding their reasoning.
Finally, some good news in this election season.
Hilarious!! CBS and NY Times are two of Obama's biggest
cheerleaders. The citizens aren't fooled quite that easy.I
suppose the survey respondents were asked "would you rather have a root
canal or vote for Barack Obama"?What amazing results!!