Former NFL official from Utah chimes in on officiating 'travesty'

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  • Osgrath Provo, UT
    Sept. 26, 2012 10:32 a.m.

    Procurado, I am not an advocate for unions - I see them in modern society as a impediment to social and economic progress. But you are ignoring the key issue here, whether John Robinson is just a union hack. You unfairly attacked him when all he said that the current replacement refs are not up to the task. He made no pro-union statements, but he seemed to supply you the fuel to go off on a right-wing harangue (and before you get offended by that word, look up its meaning - it is not attacking you).

  • procuradorfiscal Tooele, UT
    Sept. 26, 2012 4:51 a.m.

    Re: "Procurador, please, unions are not evil."

    Modern American trade unions are evil.

    They are a proud wing of the international socialist movement, and have as their primary object, not the representation of the chumps that pay them dues, but the advancement of socialism.

    They require of their adherents a suspension of both ethics and truth, having adopted brutal, end-justifies-the-means tactics that they fully recognize as destructive to the Nation and its economy, but which they vigorously pursue, notwithstanding.

    Trade unions are a cancer on American society, totally without redeeming social or political value.

    It's true that industries that don't care about their human capital don't last. But, it's truly unfortunate that -- because too many Americans have abandoned values and ethics that made America great, in favor of a mafia-style cronyism -- unions that don't truly care about their members, or about the Nation, DO last.

  • Osgrath Provo, UT
    Sept. 25, 2012 11:01 p.m.

    Procurador, please, unions are not evil. Sometimes (i.e., United Auto Workers) they have outlived their constructive usefullness, but on the other hand, I hope you would not avocate 19th century labor conditions especially women in sweat shops and children in the mines and mills. There was a necessary role for unions to bring a new kind of economy (the industrial revolution was a social revolution of mammoth proportions) to a state of balance. In the long run, industries that don't care about the workers don't last, but that doesn't prevent a whole bunch of myopic greed from governing the minds of the capitalists running the businesses. On the other hand, the union taking charge of the business produces results like the big three auto makers of the 1980s.

    Besides, you overstate Robinson's union sentiments. He was only describing which any rationally thinking observer was saying after Monday's game - the current officials are not up to the task. I can't imagine you would claim that anyone saying that the replacement neurosurgeons are not adequate is left wing union blather - even as surgical deaths mount because the scabs are not competent.

  • Tolstoy salt lake, UT
    Sept. 25, 2012 9:48 p.m.

    believe it or not, not every cooperation is a victim and not everything is a grand union conspiracy

  • eagle Provo, UT
    Sept. 25, 2012 7:33 p.m.

    It seems that the NFL officials (the real ones) are worth their money. It's hard to feel sorry for a billion dollar enterprise who wants to low-ball officials that work part time who are still the best in the business. Also, the officials were locked out, which is a decision by management. It's not a strike. In this case the workers might have leverage because the product is much less quality without them.

  • procuradorfiscal Tooele, UT
    Sept. 25, 2012 7:24 p.m.

    Re: ". . . replacement ref's are horrible . . . ."

    Not near as horrible as trade-union bosses and their shills in sports and the media.

    Real fans know the difference between what we see and union-boss hype.

  • Tolstoy salt lake, UT
    Sept. 25, 2012 6:24 p.m.

    right the fact that the replacement ref's are horrible at their job is all a union conspiracy.

  • Aggielove Cache county, USA
    Sept. 25, 2012 5:05 p.m.

    Let me start by saying this, so you understand me. I think college football is WAY more fun to watch than the NFL.
    For me, I will never understand why folks really get into the NFL.
    Those folks just don't seem right to me.
    So, with these replacement refs. They make the game Actually more fun.
    And the biggest laugh of all is this. To watch those commentators act like Children over these blown calls.
    It's hilarious!
    Get over yourself, it's entertainment. That's all!
    They are paid entertainers.

  • procuradorfiscal Tooele, UT
    Sept. 25, 2012 4:23 p.m.

    Re: "But they knew what they were getting in for, so it's hard to feel bad for them. They have to know it's going to be tough."

    Spoken like a true union hack. He could have inserted the word "scab" in there somewhere in his screed, and it wouldn't have sounded at all out of place in any smoky, gritty trade-union hall, worldwide.

    This is a union-inspired tempest in a teapot, designed to put undue pressure on the NFL to cave in to the unreasonable contract demands of the regulars -- though each of them has made most of the bad calls their shills today complain of.

    It's a common, but unethical union ploy.

    Nothing more.