In San Francisco, Proposition 8 backer to head Catholic Church

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  • RanchHand Huntsville, UT
    Sept. 26, 2012 12:50 p.m.


    Destruction of a principle: that being: "bigotry = good"

  • BrentBot Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 26, 2012 7:20 a.m.

    Marriage reflects the natural moral and social law evidenced the world over. As the late British social anthropologist Joseph Daniel Unwin noted in his study of world civilizations, any society that devalued the nuclear family soon lost what he called "expansive energy," which might best be summarized as society's will to make things better for the next generation. In fact, no society that has loosened sexual morality outside of man-woman marriage has survived.

    Analyzing studies of cultures spanning several thousands of years on several continents, Chairman of Harvard University’s sociology department, Pitirim Sorokin. found that virtually all political revolutions that brought about societal collapse were preceded by a sexual revolution in which marriage and family were devalued by the culture’s acceptance of homosexuality.

    When marriage loses its unique status, women and children most frequently are the direct victims. Giving same-sex relationships or out-of-wedlock heterosexual couples the same special status and benefits as the marital bond would not be the expansion of a right but the destruction of a principle.

  • Baccus0902 Leesburg, VA
    Sept. 25, 2012 7:16 p.m.


    Don't despair my brother, you know that you are a child of God. You can rest assured in that knowledge.

    Even though many so called Christians used the words of Paul to condemn homosexuals, they forget that he was the first one to acknowledge his own limitations in the way he talked and expressed himself.
    "1 Corinthians 13
    12 Now we see things imperfectly, like puzzling reflections in a mirror, but then we will see everything with perfect clarity.[c] All that I know now is partial and incomplete, but then I will know everything completely, just as God now knows me completely"

    I don't know why our Heavenly Father made some of his children homosexuals. I just know he made them that way and I know that he wants them to love and be loved.

    Someday we will know everything. In the meantime we shouldn't let anyone to make us doubt of our human dignity and divine destiny.

  • lost in DC West Jordan, UT
    Sept. 25, 2012 6:42 p.m.

    those who do not agree with you are dark and ugly?

    LGBT couples are not marriages. LGBT people CAN marry as long as they follow the rules that apply to everyone else. Find someone of legal age who is single and of the opposite sex who will have you, and you can marry them. Those rules applies to EVERYONE, so that IS equal treatment.

  • RanchHand Huntsville, UT
    Sept. 25, 2012 6:01 p.m.


    Single heterosexuals can choose to marry if they so desire. We cannot.

    I don't care if your religions never accept or perform same-sex marriages. They have absolutely NO BUSINESS telling us that we can't participate in secular benefits.

    Using your religion to prevent GLBT marriages actually violates the First Amendment's Freedom of Religion. The god I believe in doesn't care about the genders of a loving couple. You don't believe in it, don't have one.

  • windsor City, Ut
    Sept. 25, 2012 5:06 p.m.

    "Asked whether it was possible to be a gay man or a lesbian and a practicing Catholic embraced by the church, his answer was adamant: "Certainly." The key, he said, is chastity, the same challenge faced by any single Catholic.
    "Maybe it's the particular way God is calling them to holiness,"It takes a lot of hard work and spiritual discipline. Certainly our gay and lesbian brothers and sisters need to be supported in living out their call to holiness."

    Archbishop Cordileone and President Gordon B. Hinckly sound very similar:

    "People inquire about our position on those who consider themselves so-called gays and lesbians. My response is that we love them as sons and daughters of God. They may have certain inclinations which are powerful and which may be difficult to control. Most people have inclinations of one kind or another at various times. If they do not act upon these inclinations, then they can go forward as do all other members of the Church. If they violate the law of chastity and the moral standards of the Church, then they are subject to the discipline of the Church, just as others are"

  • RFLASH Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 25, 2012 11:09 a.m.

    It is disgusting how people use their religion to vent their own dark and ugly feelings! I will never accept nor do I have to accept the lies that people invent in the name of God! We are treated as if we have nothing to do with God, but let me say that we all will have our turn. Do people think, that because we are gay God does not hear us? He made us and you can better believe that He knew what He was doing! Honestly, I know He will listen to me and being gay is probably the last thing I need to worry about! These people say that they will not give up! Well, what makes you think we will give up? I will live my life with my family. I will believe in God and myself and most of all I will learn love because without it we have nothing. We arre not garbage! He is my God as well as He is your God! Just because you push us away does not mean that God does.

  • RanchHand Huntsville, UT
    Sept. 25, 2012 7:22 a.m.

    "They're serious," Reese said, "and they're not going to back down."

    --- So are we, and we have time on our side.

    "Society and its governing bodies should do everything in their power to "encourage healthy and stable marriages,"

    --- Unless they're gay, of course, then you get to denigrate them and deny them their Constitutional right to equal treatment by the government. Why not "encourage healthy and stable marriages" for gays?

    ""Maybe it's the particular way God is calling them to holiness,"

    --- Keep your god out of our government. We are a secular society, NOT a Theocracy.

    "I want to focus on the importance of supporting marriage,"

    --- Then support it for EVERYONE! Denying marriage to GLBT couples is not, absolute not, "supporting marriage".

  • Schwa South Jordan, UT
    Sept. 24, 2012 6:07 p.m.

    I strongly desire for us to become a live-and-let-live world. I personally do not care if you are gay, straight, or anything else. The way you behave in your personal life has no imapct on me and the way I live mine. Love thy neighbor.

  • Hutterite American Fork, UT
    Sept. 24, 2012 5:56 p.m.

    The church is a big, lumbering institution with so much history on its' side that it can stick to it's guns no matter what. But it's not the first time since Galileo that they might just be being stubborn for its' own sake.