Questioning eternal torment: Documentary takes a look at punishment and redemption

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  • Craig Clark Boulder, CO
    Sept. 24, 2012 4:42 p.m.

    A saint does not practice love, kindness, forebearance, and generosity out of expectation of gaining heaven or out of fear of condemnation to hell. Love of humanity is reward enough while indifference to others is the self-punishment that keeps on giving. Every Christmas, I take delight in Charles Dickens' A Christmas Carol, not because it's a story of redemption so much as one of transformation.

  • Tyler D Meridian, ID
    Sept. 24, 2012 8:38 a.m.

    A famous 16th century Spanish mystic once said, "the only thing that burns in hell is the (ego) self." Assuming all of this is not just a childish exercise akin to discussing whether Batman is better than Spiderman, maybe we're better off listening to folks that have some direct experience with the spiritual realms rather than all the nonsense we’ve heard for centuries from these so-called men-of-the-cloth.

  • Screwdriver Casa Grande, AZ
    Sept. 23, 2012 7:42 p.m.

    Sometimes I'ts hard to believe this life isn't the punishment. If you don't get that, your life is too easy.

  • the truth Holladay, UT
    Sept. 23, 2012 5:28 p.m.

    I find it amazing how many do not understand the Gospel,

    HEll is not place of torment and punishing and and burnings, and so forth,

    but just a place without God's presence, and knowledge of what you have lost and could had if you chosen righteousness. The torment is of your own making.

    It is not God but it is you that doing the tormenting and punishing of your own self.

    Why people ascribe to God that which is not of God,

    We chose to come to this imperfect earth, with all the imperfection that implies, with all it's trials and tribulations, and he gave us our agency to act and behave as we choose.

    And we agreed to take upon this probation to prove ourselves worthy of progression to his glory and to live with him again.

    Hell is not God's doing but our doing.

  • Tekakaromatagi Dammam, Saudi Arabia
    Sept. 23, 2012 7:10 a.m.

    I think that we would be more miserable in the presence of a righteous god knowing that we had broken his laws then we would be with the damned souls in hell. We go to hell because that is the least miserable place. The popular fiction of hell fire, devils, pitchforks and an angry god punishing us is fiction. God knew what was going to happen, he tried and tried to tell us, but we would not listen. We die, go to judgment, we don't want to face him, we want to run and hide, and he lets us run and hide.

    CS Lewis says in the Problem of Pain, "The answer to those who object to the idea of divine justice is itself a question: 'What do you want him God do? Give every assistance, every divine aid? He did. On Calvary. Do you want him to leave them alone? Alas! That is what he will do."