Bob Woodward's new book focuses on Washington, Obama and 'gaps' in leadership

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  • m.g. scott LAYTON, UT
    Sept. 14, 2012 10:25 p.m.

    For any of you who think Obama made a difficult decision to get Bin Laden, Consider. If it had ever gotten out to the public that the American intelligence community and military had tracked down Bin Laden and Obama HAD NOT gone after him, his presidency would have been over. He had absolutely no choice. Any president who wanted to stay in office would have done the same. Anyone disagree, let's hear it.

  • happytobehere Fillmore, Utah
    Sept. 13, 2012 10:31 p.m.

    @spring street

    Exactly! You can be taught...

  • spring street SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Sept. 13, 2012 2:29 p.m.

    So the director attempts to a series of erroneous connections which you take at face value and spring street is the one that needs to think for themselves and read between the rhetoric? interesting.

  • happytobehere Fillmore, Utah
    Sept. 13, 2012 7:20 a.m.

    @ Spring Street

    You basically just quoted the "Fact Check" of 2016. If you think for yourself you can easily see the spin on this supposed "factual" information. Just because Obama ordered the raid on Bin Laden does not mean that he isn't sympathetic to jihadists, or the fact that the US refused to return the Falklands does not mean that this was Obama's desire. I could continue, but I have to move on with my day...but hopefully you get the ides. Please learn to read between the rhetoric. If what you wrote is all the fact checkers can come up with, then I have to believe the claims of 2016 even more fully.

  • staypuffinpc Provo, UT
    Sept. 13, 2012 5:31 a.m.

    For me, one of the clearest demonstrations of Obama's lack of leadership is his inabilility to get even a single democrat to sign off on his budget proposals at any time during his presidency. I'm becoming less convinvced of Mitt's leadership as he continues to play these political games for the campaign, but it's clear to me that Obama has failed to take the reins of even his own party.

    Disclosure: I'm an independent, though with republican leanings lately, so there's my bias.

  • Tolstoy salt lake, UT
    Sept. 12, 2012 7:36 p.m.

    @lost in DC
    I have to wonder if you stopped to consider that the reason do not respond to you comments is because they see n point in engage in a conversation with someone that ha no interest in actually having a dialogue but is only interested in poetical hyperbola?

  • lost in DC West Jordan, UT
    Sept. 12, 2012 4:26 p.m.

    I see so far no libs have denied the story, that BO has no leadership skills.

    there appears to be hope for even the most devoted; unless, of course, they place no value on leadership skills.

  • Craig Clark Boulder, CO
    Sept. 12, 2012 4:21 p.m.

    How does the President strike a deal with an obstinate Congress whose stated legislative priority is to keep Obama from winning a second term? It's the President's responsibility to lead but he can't force Republicans into an agreement. If Boehner can't bring his party along before the fiscal cliff is here, then maybe the House Republicans should consider a shakeup in floor leadership.

  • Hemlock Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 12, 2012 8:54 a.m.

    Finally, someone has the courage to say, The King has no clothes. As if we all didn't know that before. The reward (or for the working citizen, punishment) for demonstrated incompetence may well be a second Obama term.

  • Tolstoy salt lake, UT
    Sept. 11, 2012 7:55 p.m.

    having already had this conversation with you about ID I think it is safe to say you just proved my point. It is the willful ignorance of the far right and their unwillingness to watch or read anything but propaganda that leads them to believe a complex issue like voter ID laws can simply be dismissed by claiming all it takes is incentive.

  • jttheawesome Scranton, PA
    Sept. 11, 2012 6:41 p.m.

    It's pleasing to me that more and more of the mainstream media, such as The Wall Street Journal, the Washington Times, and others, are finally publishing the truth aboout the real Obama. Just as when Nixon was trying to live in that river called "Denial" by saying, "I am not a crook!", Obama is also in a complete state of denial - or self-delusion - that our country is better off. The truth has a way of floating to the top, despite the liberal media's exceeding efforts to hide it. Thanks, Mr. Woodward, for once again nailing a public official who by his performance has "earned" the right to be downsized right out of office!

  • Rifleman Salt Lake City, Utah
    Sept. 11, 2012 2:29 p.m.

    Re: Tolstoy salt lake, UT
    "what would be helpful is if the far right would spend less time watching and reading propaganda and spend more time getting informed."

    At least the typical mainstream Republican has enough incentive to obtain valid IDs need when going to the voting booth here in Utah. Sheeesh!!!

  • spring street SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Sept. 11, 2012 2:25 p.m.


    and then comes the illogical stretches

    The assertion that Obama's presidency is an expression of his father's political beliefs, which D'Souza first made in 2010 in his book "The Roots of Obama's Rage," is almost entirely subjective and a logical stretch at best.
    D'Souza interviews a NYU psychologist who Postulates about Obama’s motivations without having ever actually meeting Obama yet alone assessing him.

    Getting informed patriot does not mean watching and reading propaganda that simply reinforces the assumptions you already have about the world.

  • spring street SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Sept. 11, 2012 2:22 p.m.


    More great misinformation from Obama 2016

    D'Souza says Obama removed a bust of British Prime Minister Winston Churchill from the Oval Office because Churchill represented British colonialism. White House curator William Allman said the bust, which had been on loan, was already scheduled to be returned before Obama took office. Another bust of Churchill is on display in the president's private residence, the White House says.

    In Hawaii, D'Souza asserts with no evidence that Obama sympathized with native Hawaiians who felt they had been marginalized by the American government when Hawaii was becoming a state. D'Souza also asserts – again with no evidence – that Obama had been coached to hold those views at Punahou, the prestigious prep school he attended.

  • spring street SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Sept. 11, 2012 2:20 p.m.

    get informed through such propaganda films as Obama 2016 that you like to espouse the virtues of. Let s take a look at how well informed we can get.

    'Souza says Obama is "weirdly sympathetic to Muslim jihadists" in Afghanistan and Pakistan. He does not mention that Obama ordered the raid that killed Osama bin Laden and the drone strikes that have killed dozens of other terrorists in the region.

    D'Souza wrongly claims that Obama wants to return control of the Falkland Islands from Britain to Argentina. The U.S. refused in April to endorse a final declaration on Argentina's claim to the islands at the Summit of the Americas, provoking criticism from other Latin American nations.

    D'Souza says Obama has "done nothing" to impede Iran's nuclear ambitions, despite the severe trade and economic sanctions his administration has imposed on that country to halt its suspected nuclear program. Obama opposes a near-term military strike on Iran, either by the U.S. or Israel, although he says the U.S. will never tolerate a nuclear-armed Iran.

  • Tolstoy salt lake, UT
    Sept. 11, 2012 1:25 p.m.

    what would be helpful is if the far right would spend less time watching and reading propaganda and spend more time getting informed.

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    Sept. 11, 2012 11:56 a.m.

    It would be good if the majority of Obama disciples were informed citizens - they are not! It would be great if the pro Obama crowd actually read books, watched documentaries, and tried to understand things such as our national debt crisis but again that is not the case. By and large most of the very pro Obama crowd are part of the entitlement bound, don't ask, don't care crowd that think Alexander Hamilton and James Monroe are MTV stars. Obama-mania feeds off of this ignorance- sadly but true.

  • Tolstoy salt lake, UT
    Sept. 11, 2012 11:50 a.m.

    So the bases for your argument is a book written by a man not smart enough to even notice he contradicts himself several times. Its was 2009 it was 2010 it was....... he cannot even get his basic time lines right why would we give any credence to his other claims?

    As for woodwards book I guess we will have to wait and see how accurate his claims turn out to be, given the recent rash of inaccuracies claims lately I am not holding my breath.

  • ute alumni Tengoku, UT
    Sept. 11, 2012 10:39 a.m.

    the libs convention tells us all we need to know about the C.O. (contraceptive organizer) and his inability to lead. with all the problems the country has, he allowed the convention to be focused on a subject that means very little to most americans, contraceptives. it was absolutely a joke. barry is incapable of making decisions and continues to allow everyone else to do that for him. i actually feel sorry for a guy that is so far over his head and yet does not understand that he is.

  • Cowboy Dude SAINT GEORGE, UT
    Sept. 11, 2012 10:00 a.m.

    Woodward wrote. "The last president to fold was George H.W. Bush, who gave in to Democrats' demands that income taxes be raised in a 1990 budget deal. And Bush was a one-term president."

    If you compromise in Washington, you are considered "folding". After the Democrats got what they wanted, they played H.W. Bush famous line over and over and over again until it cost him the election.

    "Read my lips, no new taxes."

  • HaHaHaHa Othello, WA
    Sept. 11, 2012 9:43 a.m.

    Oh Oh, but the community organizer and chief is so awesome! Can't we just overlook all this other "leadership" stuff? He is the first black president. He likes to golf, and play basketball with the boys. He is a good teleprompter reader, most of the time. He theoretically can make nice, nice with ALL the nations of the world, like no other president before him. He is beloved by Chris Mathews and almost all other national news media figures. Dare I go on, the list is so long, but I doubt the pop culture crowd who supports him, has the capacity to read any further!

  • Cats Somewhere in Time, UT
    Sept. 11, 2012 8:53 a.m.

    I just read the book,"Leading From Behind" by Richard Miniter. It outlines time after time how Obama has no idea how to be a leader. He had to be pushed by Hillary and Panetta to make a decsion about the Bin Laden raid. He dragged his feet and cancelled the raid three times before finally agreeing to it. He pulled the rug out from under congressional leaders after having agreed to deficit reduction deals. Most of the time when being pressed for a decision on anything, he'd get up and walk out of the room in the middle of the meeting rather than make a decision.

    Miniter used only Democrats and White House insiders as his sources. He only used Republicans when they were actual witnesses to events at some meetings.

    Obama is a weak leader and who has no idea how to work with people and make executive decisions.

    It's time for an actual executive who has actual executive exerience.

  • FDRfan Sugar City, ID
    Sept. 11, 2012 8:38 a.m.

    Woodward wrote. "The last president to fold was George H.W. Bush, who gave in to Democrats' demands that income taxes be raised in a 1990 budget deal. And Bush was a one-term president."

    Another example of the blind leading the blind. President Bush attempted to break from the stranglehold of the Norquest faction and was punished for it. What a conflicting message - saying that a President has to lead by getting both sides to work together and then blaming President Bush for caving in as opposed to "my way or the highway."
    You added nothing beneficial, Mr. Woodward.

  • JWB Kaysville, UT
    Sept. 11, 2012 8:14 a.m.

    In a government or any relationship, one has to have trust, not limited trust, but full trust. After the President misled the Senate and House leaders and members, in both parties.

    The President from his vast experience in community organizing, which is not leadership, but getting other people to be leaders in their communities, he did not learn that you cannot have limited trust. When the Obamacare process was forced onto those leaders and Nancy Pelosi didn't even keep up with the language in the bill because it was changing second by second due to outside interests and the President forcing his will upon the group.

    People won't trust you after that type of affair. Leaders lead by example and at his age and after his short time in the Senate he hadn't learned leadership. He believes he can have some people around him to do that for him but when it comes down to the hard things the VP Biden mentioned were the hard decisions, the auto bailout and killing Bin Laden, the President didn't have to use his leadership. Things happened, with and without him.

    You have to have trust in everything and LEAD.

  • Meadow Lark Mark IDAHO FALLS, ID
    Sept. 11, 2012 8:11 a.m.

    Please Please Please we have got to get rid of Obama.

  • Rifleman Salt Lake City, Utah
    Sept. 11, 2012 8:08 a.m.

    Obama failed to "cultivate congressional relationships"? Really!! Obama has that old Chicago mentality that "We don't mind the Republicans joining us. They can come for the ride, but they gotta sit in back".

    Obama has only himself to blame for his inability to play well with others.

  • t702 Las Vegas, NV
    Sept. 10, 2012 10:49 p.m.

    The sad part is you don't really need a book to tell you how incompetent the Obama Administration is. It's so transparent that the guy at the top is clueless, makes you wonder why millions of Americans were fooled. enuff of this mr speech in chief!

  • A1994 Centerville, UT
    Sept. 10, 2012 10:24 p.m.

    This is the administration where the phrase "leading from behind" has become popularized.

  • ute alumni Tengoku, UT
    Sept. 10, 2012 10:00 p.m.

    obama's leadership gap has lasted 44 months. the guy can't spell leadership, let alone act in that roll.

  • Kyle loves BYU/Jazz Provo, UT
    Sept. 10, 2012 9:05 p.m.

    Inviting Paul Ryan to sit in the front row and then blasting his plan is just pathetic if you ask me. Calling him "Jack Ryan" is just hilarious. Oh President Obama what would we do without you.

    Actually I do know, we might have a realistic plan to do something about the national debt instead of sticking our head in the sand and hoping the problem goes away. It's only 16 trillion dollars, no big deal.