Mike Sorensen: Pac-12's 9-game conference schedule makes it tough for Utes to play in-state rivals

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  • NightOwlAmerica SALEM, OR
    Sept. 12, 2012 11:22 a.m.

    Well BYU, you might not have a scheduling buddy in the future.
    Notre Dame is moving all sports but football to the ACC. However they are required to play five ACC football games a year. Sorry but I doubt they will cast aside Michigan, Michigan St or USC and keep playing BYU.

    Oh yeah, wait for the NBC contract to run its course. Notre Dame will join a conference.

  • sammyg Springville, UT
    Sept. 10, 2012 2:52 p.m.

    The tale of the Red-Tailed Chicken Hawks... a Utah Utes story.

    SoonerUte, you and your team have lost all credibility in this argument.

    "It's about national attention." What a joke. Please tell me how playing Northern Colorado factors in. No, please don't, it will be a total waste of my time and others.

    Utes have no honor or respect for traditions. Plain and simple as that.

  • mussingaround Palo Alto, CA
    Sept. 10, 2012 11:58 a.m.


    LOL at you naivety.

    Utah isn't even a blip on the radar as far as making the playoffs. Even in their heyday, the Utes never finished higher than 6th in the bcs standings.

    No, the real reason Utah wants to drop BYU and Utah State from their schedule is not to replace them with the likes of Michigan, but to replace them with the likes of Northern Colorado.

    Hill and Whit can see the writing on the wall, and that writing clearly shows that if the Utes don't schedule three near automatic OOC wins each year, the Utes face the very real possibility of not even qualifying for a bowl game.

    Running away from their rivals will simply doom the Utes to mediocrity with not even an occasional win over an instate rival to beat their chests about.


    As far as BYU using up their "September spotlight" for Utah, you obviously haven't been paying any attention to BYU's scheduling lately. BYU already has several "national attention" games scheduled for October and November, with many more to come. You're only fooling yourself if you think that BYU "needs" U on its schedule.

  • SoonerUte Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 10, 2012 10:07 a.m.

    Solomon Levi's punchline is "The runnin' Utes are runnin' scared of their instate rivals."
    Now that is just good comedy.

    Its about national attention. There was a time when all 3 schools couldn't get national attention, so the in-state rivalry was all-important. Times have changed.

    USU has gotten some great national attention with strong games against Auburn and Oklahoma and their move to the MWC. If the Aggies beat Wisconsin next week in Madison, they're going to get far more national attention than the win over Utah.

    As an independent, BYU needs national attention early. Do they really want to use up their "September Spotlight" on a couple of in-state rivals? This year's September is boring! Weber, Utah, Boise, Hawaii? Even if the games are good, they have a feel of "been there, seen that". They need more "out of area" teams.

    You're right, when the BCS morphs into a playoff, teams will pass over "money games" in favor of "national attention" games. That further dooms the in-state rivalries. They are locally interesting, but no more than a blip on the national scene.

  • Solomon Levi Alpine, UT
    Sept. 10, 2012 8:36 a.m.

    More whiny excuses from Mr. Sorensen and SoonerUte?

    The ONLY reason why playing BYU and Utah State OOC is more "difficult" for the PAC bottom-dwelling Utes is because the Cougars and Aggies are MORE DIFFICULT to beat than Northern Colorado. There's absolutely NO REASON why the Utes need to schedule a money game except for NEEDING an automatic win to soften their schedule. Northern Colorado does absolutely NOTHING for Utah's playoff chances.


    The runnin' Utes are runnin' scared of their instate rivals.

  • TJ Eagle Mountain, UT
    Sept. 10, 2012 8:31 a.m.

    Pac-12's 9-game conference schedule makes it tough for Utes to play in-state rivals.
    Looks like the in-state rivals are making it pretty tough also. The truth is that Utah has 3 non-conference games each year. They can play both BYU and USU every year and still schedule a D-2 team to beat up on.
    The headline should read. 'In state rivals too good for Utes to schedule annually'. Or, 'Utes want weaker teams for non-conference schedule, won't schedule in state rivals annually' or 'Utes want guaranteed wins in non-conference games, BYU, USU too much of a challenge'.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Sept. 10, 2012 8:11 a.m.


    You're going to get the "money game" no matter what. If utah proved anything in the 1st 2 weeks it is that they HAVE to play one of those games just to have any hope at bowl eligibility.

    I actally don't have a problem with utah not playing BYU, I really don't have any opinion on whether or not utah plays usu, if utah wants to play some other teams then go and do it. I even understand wanting to play michigan but is playing Tulsa really more interesting and fun for utah and its "fans" than playing BYU or USU?

    But of course BYU fans are going to be able to enjoy a wide variety of opponents every year. As an independent that is just how the schedule will be. I've been saying for a long time, and utah "fans" have been criticizing it, how much I am looking forward to the variety that indepedence is bringing to BYU's schedule. There are a lot of very interesting games already scheduled with more to come, some are bcs teams and some are good non bcs teams. Plenty of schools to play without utah.

  • DC Alexandria, VA
    Sept. 10, 2012 6:56 a.m.

    SoonerUte, I'm not sure there is anyone playing street ball in Akron, Ohio that could handle Lebron James like Utah State did to the Utes. The Utes might have grown up and they're playing a good conference, but they're riding the bench right now, and a lot of their teammates are seriously questioning why you're taking up bench space.

  • SoonerUte Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 10, 2012 12:12 a.m.

    I'm sure Lebron James would love to play street ball in Akron, Ohio, but he's in the NBA now. We all have to grow up, and leave the childhood games behind.

    I loved watching the mix the PAC-12 had this week - Wisconsin, LSU, Oklahoma State, Nebraska, Syracuse. I want to see the Utes in that mix. Keeping both those old rivalries would mean there is only ONE unknown game each year. "Who will be the money-game team be this year?" Montana State, South Dakota State? Florida A&M? Ooooh! Such drama!

  • toosmartforyou Farmington, UT
    Sept. 9, 2012 11:44 p.m.

    What....wait, how can this be??? This is the conference of champions and they can't schedule anyone but themselves to play? What an excuse! That's laughable, just like some of the intersectional games they've already lost as a conference this year, with more to come.

    They're afraid of losing again, plain and simple.

    If the Utes lose they'd rather lose to Michigan than lose to Utah State. Why don't they just admit it?

  • Elk Hair Caddis Sandy, UT
    Sept. 9, 2012 10:01 p.m.

    Tough PAC schedule?

    Colorado 28 Sacramento State 30.

    Can't wait for the "Rumble in the Rockies".....Not