Romney, Obama in battle for working-class whites

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  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Sept. 11, 2012 9:08 p.m.


    Nebraska wants the pipeline, and has plans to start businesses along its trek.

  • Furry1993 Ogden, UT
    Sept. 10, 2012 12:54 p.m.

    To Worf 7:19 p.m. Sept. 9, 2012

    This president can influence the price of gas. It's called the Canadian pipeline, drilling on federal lands, easing regulations, and working with Congress.


    Then maybe Nebraska should decide where it wants to put the pipeline. That's the holdup -- Nebraska's requirement that the pipeline avoid its environmentally fragile Sand Hills region and fresh-water aquifers, together with tough new scrutiny by Nebraska's regulators, is making it difficult to locate the pipeline. It doesn't make sense to start building the pipeline if the middle area of it is still in question and it may have to be relocated in other states to accomodate Nebraska's final decision. The President said that, once Nebraska decides, a new application for the pipeline would be accepted and evaludated. The delay isn't the President's doing.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Sept. 9, 2012 7:19 p.m.

    This president can influence the price of gas. It's called the Canadian pipeline, drilling on federal lands, easing regulations, and working with Congress.

  • peter Alpine, UT
    Sept. 9, 2012 9:30 a.m.

    Tolstoy, do you own a business? All along, Obama's policies have hindered American ingenuity, whether you are white, black, brown, yellow, olive skinned, because of his war against anyone willing to take a risk, work hard to get ahead, only to be heavily taxed by obama's ACA, which is not about health care, rather a means to place more burdensome taxes on the working class. The ACA includes a 3.8% federal tax on home sales to help fund itself. What will that do to an already sluggish housing market? I am a small business owner, and I have talked with any small business owners who are holding back until they see the results of this November election. Big government is an enemy to the free market, and to a free people.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Sept. 9, 2012 9:23 a.m.

    Everything is George Bushes fault and Obama has turned things around. Voting for Romney would bring back those old Bush policies which got us into this mess. Voting for Obama is a move forward.

    A fool is someone who believes a lie. Kick me once and shame on you. Kick me twice and shame on me.

  • Furry1993 Ogden, UT
    Sept. 8, 2012 4:18 p.m.

    To Mountainman 10:37 a.m. Sept. 8, 2012

    Open up federal lands to oil exploration? Why should the oil companies get access to more lands and leases when they don't use the lands and leases they already have? Out of nearly 36 million acres leased offshore, only about 10 million acres are active – leaving nearly 72 percent of the offshore leased area idle. In the lower 48 states, an additional 20.8 million acres, or 56 percent of onshore leased acres, remain idle. I've seen nothing to indicate that Alaskan land and leases are treated any differently. Furthermore, there are approximately 7,000 approved permits for drilling on federal and Indian lands that have not yet been drilled by companies.

    Require the oil companies to use the leases and the leased land they already have before they can get access to any more. That's the reasonable and rational way to handle the issue. Tell the oil companies "use 'em or lose 'em."

  • Hutterite American Fork, UT
    Sept. 8, 2012 1:18 p.m.

    First, presidents can't do anything to ifluence the price of oil, and therefore gasoline, short of maybe nationalising the petroleum industry, or huge subsidies to the pump price. We're going to have to come to grips with the new normal, and respect the limits imposed by geopolitics and a finite resource. Nobody produces oil profitably for 20 bucks a barrell anymore. Nobody. And they never will again. And that's going to have a profound impact on what we can expect in the future. Sustainable growth is no longer sustainable indefinitely. We're going to have to re think the model that says we can just keep moving forward if everyone just gets more stuff. As for the idea of north american energy independence, there is soundness there. Isolation from unstable supplies and suppliers that are just short of openly hostile to us is a good idea.

  • Mountanman Hayden, ID
    Sept. 8, 2012 10:37 a.m.

    @ Brian. Serious harm to our economy and poor people are high energy prices which inflates food prices and kills jobs! When Obama took office, gasoline averaged $1.85/ gal. Now it is approaching $4.00/gal. I would rather give my money to the Canadians for their oil than Saudi princes! Open up federal lands to oil exploration and the fees and royalties oil companies would pay to our government would pay off the national debt in 10 years plus force down energy prices. Lower energy prices will be our economic salvation, not more bailouts with borrowed money! Obama will NEVER get America energy independent, but Romney will and that alone will create millions of good paying jobs! We can choose to continue to struggle with ever higher energy costs, more unemployment and inflation of the necessities of life or we can elect Romney to correct these problems! It’s a choice, not how things have to be.

  • Tolstoy salt lake, UT
    Sept. 8, 2012 10:14 a.m.

    funny I never once heard Obama claim that the white where undeserving and as a white man never felt like I did not matter but you keep up the good work spreading the political hyperbole.

  • Baron Scarpia Logan, UT
    Sept. 8, 2012 6:56 a.m.

    One issue separating Obama from Romney is tax relief for wind power. An incentive for wind is set to expire soon. Obama is for it -- and this plays well for working-class whites in Iowa and Colorado that have booming wind power sectors; Iowa and North Dakota already get 20 percent-plus of their electricity from wind, and it pours millions of dollars into the hands of rural farmers -- a traditional GOP constituent.

    Romney opposes the tax incentive, and Midwest GOP leaders from Kansas to Iowa are pleading with Romney to change his position as it could retard economic prosperity in their respective states.

    (As a side note, Romney has said nothing about eliminating tax incentives for fossil fuels, but that's another story.)

    Interestingly, Romney's support for Keystone will funnel America's energy dollars to Canada. Added to Romney's opposition to auto efficiency standards, Romney's energy policy is to not only burn more oil -- but to source it from Canada!

    Nebraska farmers oppose Keystone because a leak could threaten the Midwest's water aquafir and destroy agriculture there.

    In short, Romney's energy proposals are opposed by Midwest GOP -- and it could cost him votes.

  • My2Cents Taylorsville, UT
    Sept. 8, 2012 5:28 a.m.

    So Obama finally decided that being racist and calling whites the undeserving of his presidential obligations and the Untited States government for the last 4 years or more, is coming around now to see the error of his prejudices and racism is backfiring in negative path of presidential duties.

    Obama believes in division of ethnics, races, and a multi cultural society and government is the only way he can have it, is finding out even the divided are seeing the lies and racism he exudes. Ethnic Americans know that they left other countries and life styles because of the very thing this 'snake oil salesman' is trying to sell this nation and he is getting black listed big time in a way he now understands. America is not a racist country, just our leader trying to divide us by racism.