President Obama: Recovery path hard, challenge 'can be met'

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  • TRUTH Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 15, 2012 3:04 p.m.

    With a Law School Lounge Lizard resume, and a failure at leading the country.....Obama will be a one term President! Good Riddance Occupy Obama's!

  • peter Alpine, UT
    Sept. 10, 2012 6:39 p.m.

    Come on people, there is no recovery in the path obama is taking America. If I am in deep debt, how is borrowing more money just to cover my ever increasing expenses helping me recover? His goal is the economic collapse of America.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Sept. 7, 2012 7:19 p.m.

    Tax cuts do not cause deficits! Spending does!

    You know, paying for Solyndra, contraceptives, Muslim Brotherhood, China, Australia, Japan, Brazil, abortions, welfare, etc.

  • Happy Valley Heretic Orem, UT
    Sept. 7, 2012 4:05 p.m.

    Canyontreker: said Ironically, history shows that raising taxes shrinks the economy, lowers employment and lowers GNP decreasing the governments revenue. However, this is business school theory. We are currently in unchartered waters.

    Even with two unfunded wars and the similarly unpaid Medicare prescription drug benefit, Bush's $1.4 trillion tax cut in 2001, followed by a $550 billion second round in 2003, accounted for half of the yawning budget deficits he produced.

    So how is it that the Bush tax breaks caused deficits?

  • Happy Valley Heretic Orem, UT
    Sept. 7, 2012 3:47 p.m.

    President Bush produced red ink as far as the eye can see. After inheriting a federal budget in the black and CBO forecast of a $5.6 trillion surplus over 10 years, President George W. Bush quickly set about dismantling the progress made under Bill Clinton. Even with two unfunded wars and the similarly unpaid Medicare prescription drug benefit, Bush's $1.4 trillion tax cut in 2001, followed by a $550 billion second round in 2003, accounted for half of the yawning budget deficits he produced.

    During his presidency, Republicans in Congress voted seven times to raise the debt ceiling, the last to $11.3 trillion.

    I think liberals and Democrats understand the republicans perfectly.

  • Happy Valley Heretic Orem, UT
    Sept. 7, 2012 3:44 p.m.

    Patriot said: What is it that liberals have such a hard time understanding about our national debt and basic economics?

    Vice President Dick Cheney famously declared in 2002, "proved deficits don't matter." Unless, that is, a Democrat is in the White House. After all, while Ronald Reagan tripled the national debt and George W. Bush doubled it again, each Republican was rewarded with a second term in office.

    Reagan's massive $749 billion supply-side tax cuts in 1981 quickly produced even more massive annual budget deficits. Combined with his rapid increase in defense spending, Reagan delivered not the balanced budgets he promised, but record-settings deficits. Ronald Reagan nonetheless more than equaled the entire debt burden produced by the previous 200 years of American history.

    They have a hard time understanding double standards patriot.

  • Canyontreker TAYLORSVILLE, UT
    Sept. 7, 2012 2:56 p.m.

    Wonder "What I don't understand is how you think that can be done with no increase in taxes. These are the things I have a hard time understanding."

    I'll try to help. From Economics 101 -

    The government gets revenue from two sources...raising taxes or attempting to raise GNP. A higher GNP collects more revenue from new & growing business and new employment.

    Ironically, history shows that raising taxes shrinks the economy, lowers employment and lowers GNP decreasing the governments revenue. However, this is business school theory. We are currently in unchartered waters.

  • Razzle2 Bluffdale, UT
    Sept. 7, 2012 2:07 p.m.

    If the President knew this was going to be a long haul to recovery than...

    Why did he spend his first year working on health reform?

    Why did he add energy regulations turning towns along the Utah, Colorado, and Wyoming borders from boom towns to ghost towns? Why did Canada and select private lands in North Dakota become the new energy fields?

    Why did he not act on the (illegal) slowdown of the State department to release visitor visas for China and Brazil while Australia, New Zealand and South Africa boomed with tourists and business travel?

  • Cowboy Dude SAINT GEORGE, UT
    Sept. 7, 2012 1:57 p.m.

    All we need is patience. All of our programs will be saved, the deficit will be cut, and you will not have to give up anything because the rich will be taken.

  • Wonder Provo, UT
    Sept. 7, 2012 11:35 a.m.

    @patriot -- Why do conservatives only care about the national debt when a Democrat is president? Why no angst when a Republican is president? I never heard a word from a Republican during the Reagan years when the debt ballooned. What I heard was that deficits don't matter. I never heard a word when Bush started 2 wars and cut taxes and the debt ballooned. That was all ok. Now we have a Democrat as president and it's the end of the world. I actually agree with you that the debt needs to be reduced. What I don't understand is how you think that can be done with no increase in taxes. These are the things I have a hard time understanding.

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    Sept. 7, 2012 10:37 a.m.


    you completely ignored my question so I will ask it again and see If I get an answer this time.....

    What is it that liberals have such a hard time understanding about our national debt and basic economics?

    Please TRY to talk about the DEBT - not side track on all sorts of other favorite talking points.

  • FT salt lake city, UT
    Sept. 7, 2012 9:29 a.m.

    The man can deliver a speech but what I found more amazing was the diversity in the crowd. Such a difference between the GOP and the Democratic convention. The Republican party has a narrow group of faithful made up of mostly white, religous, or the rich. The Democrats have become the "big tent party" that Reagan envisioned. As our country becomes more diverse Republicans and the Tea Party will have to become more tolerant and willing to compromise or they'll go the way of the Bull Moose.

  • Truthseeker SLO, CA
    Sept. 7, 2012 9:17 a.m.

    "interesting to hear the democrat's attack Mitt for not being specific enough about how he would grow our economy in his speech even though Mitt outlined 5 specific plans."

    Ok. so Mitt has outlined specific tax cuts he plans on implementing with the goal of maintaining revenue but does not outline what loopholes etc. he is going to close to maintain revenue. Is he going to do away with the home mortgage interest deduction? charitable giving? what? Maybe he's just going to use a magic wand and make it all work out?

    "What is it that liberals have such a hard time understanding about our national debt and basic economics?"

    Liberals have a hard time understanding why wealthy people need another tax cut.
    Liberals have a hard time understanding why Republicans don't realize tax cuts decrease long-term revenue and increase the debt. Liberals have a hard time understanding why Grover Norquist is in charge of Republican fiscal policy.

  • AZRods Maricopa, AZ
    Sept. 7, 2012 9:13 a.m.

    Obama is no Bill Clinton. Having Clinton speak at the DNC just made Obama's weakness that much more obvious.

    A Republican signs his/her check on the front. Democrats sign theirs on the back.

  • Owl Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 7, 2012 9:12 a.m.

    The challenge can be met, but Mr. Obama has demonstrated little ability to do so.

  • JWB Kaysville, UT
    Sept. 7, 2012 8:54 a.m.

    It is just not about the President who promised not to be reelected if he wasn't successful, but about the VP Biden. He said the two hard decisions that had to be made were the automobile (UAW voters) crisis and the Bin Laden killing. Those were decided way before they took office. Michelle was sitting very close to Biden to give the heads up or down to him on everything VP Biden said or thought he would say. The President nor the VP said anything about being better off today after four years. He skirted that issue saying they would do some things after the next election. He definitely got those people pumped up as he would in community organizing. He kept on saying that entitlements would go away under the next administration to put fear and trepidation into the hearts of those on the dole. The clear skies of Charlotte for the President that controls the weather service and government didn't help his ability to show he is in charge. I hope he doesn't have to command a real war and it is best for him to retire now before he does have to do that.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Sept. 7, 2012 8:54 a.m.

    Sixteen trillion dollar debt. This would equal 550 thousand dollars for every second in a year. Are we headed for foreclosure,and what would be like? And Obama gave away billions to the Muslim Brotherhood and many other countries?

    What has Obama done to deserve another four years? What did he do? This country cannot withstand another four years.

  • one old man Ogden, UT
    Sept. 7, 2012 8:29 a.m.

    From Mitt and his friends, Gloom and Doom.

    From the other side, a brighter future than the one we were handed by those who pushed us into debt and have nearly destroyed the middle class.

    I'll be voting for brightness.

  • Beverly Eden, UT
    Sept. 7, 2012 8:29 a.m.

    Ask yourself, "Why did the Republican convention avoid their former presidents?" "Where was President Bush?" The problems created by deregulation were created by the Bush nonsense. Do you want to deregulate banks and Wall Street? It is a fact that company owners have a lower tax rate than many of the low level employees. Some government oversight is needed to protect average Americans from predatory banks and unregulated stock trading. Don't be fooled by the rhetoric. The problem was created, over many years, by deregulation pushed by lobbyist for banks and Wall Street. Do you think one person can correct this problem in four years? Blocked by a Congress who has been accepting lobbyist funds from big banks and securities firms has created the stumbling blocks for President Obama. Are we so short sighted that we forget who created this economic nightmare? Do you want more of a failed idea? Remember, "If you do it the same old way, you will get the same old outcomes." Expecting a different outcome is nonsense.

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    Sept. 7, 2012 8:00 a.m.

    I really don't know what scares me more - Obama or the MTV/MSNBC educated people that vote for him. You try to explain to folks about the 16 trillion dollar atom bomb that is about to explode over their heads called the national debt (soon to be a projected 20 trillion) and they look at you like Alfred E Newman of Mad Magazine - "what me worry". It's like being on the deck of the Titanic - seeing the iceberg dead ahead - and just keep on dancing. No worries. HUH??? What is it that liberals have such a hard time understanding about our national debt and basic economics? Obama has borrowed and added nearly 6 trillion to the debt - more than any president in history - and people see it as no big deal. The next 4 years he promises more of the same - more borrowing and more debt and his adoring masses think it's no big deal. Geez people - wake up PLEASE!!!! This is not that hard. There is a reason Paul Ryan has drawn up 2 budgets to CUT the debt and balance the budget BECAUSE our future is at stake and so is our kids!!!

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Sept. 7, 2012 7:46 a.m.

    It's not what Obama says, but what he does! What did he do?

    Why has he given billions of our money to other countries, and denied the Canadian oil pipeline deal?

    Why has the millionaires lied about Romney not paying taxes for ten years?

  • Liberal Ted Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 7, 2012 7:19 a.m.

    What is disgusting is to have politicians tell us lies, while smiling the whole time, fully aware that they are feeding us one lie after another.

    And the media refuses to question our leadership. We're not allowed to question the leadership. So everyone keeps going along pretending nothing bad is happening....

    As a nation we deserve everything that is going to come with the collapse of the financial system. At least as things continue to get worse, fewer people are believing the lies that we are being fed.

  • JoeBlow Far East USA, SC
    Sept. 7, 2012 6:31 a.m.

    "Special interests have dominated the entire Obama presidency - where have you been???? "

    Let me help you Patriot.

    Special interests dominate politics now. They dominate R politics and the dominate D politics.

    Do you really not see that?

    Let me ask you. From a purely political standpoint

    Do you think money corrupts politics?
    How about union money?
    How about corporate money?
    How about the citizens united ruling?

    What suggestions do you have to stop "special interests from dominating a presidency?"

    specifics please.

    My solution

    Taxpayer funded elections.
    No lobby
    No Pacs
    No donations or meals or trips to any politicians. PERIOD

  • peter Alpine, UT
    Sept. 7, 2012 6:27 a.m.

    Obama says that he needs more time. How about 25 years to life? He claims that he's not done. But, we the people are done. Ex-governor of Michigan Jan Graham... told the people that obama saved 1 million jobs by forgiving GM's corporate debt. Why didn't Ford need the same government backing to survive? Why are corporations so evil to the liberal mindset except the one's obama choses to bail out, i.e. Solydra, GM, etc.? The time has come for those yearning to breath free to take back our country!

  • JoeBlow Far East USA, SC
    Sept. 7, 2012 6:25 a.m.

    Obamas speech was OK, but it was no Clinton Speech.

    You may disagree with the contents of Clinton's speech, but you are delusional if you dont think it was a knockout.

  • CP Tooele, UT
    Sept. 7, 2012 5:24 a.m.

    He had 4 yrs to prove himself and he didn't..he needs to stay true to his promise, for once during his stay, and be a one term president. He didn't change a thing only made it worse. I vote for Romney!

  • RCS Orem, UT
    Sept. 7, 2012 3:50 a.m.

    Smooth, Slippery Tongues

    How do you spell "Going it alone?" F - R - E - E - D - O - M

    What is "Working with big government" like? Like working with a giant boa constrictor. It will eventually squeeze the life out of you.

    Other states could take a lesson from us here in Utah. Big government owns 75% of our land; we, the people, own 25%. What do you call a government that owns most or all of the land? Intrusive, totalitarian, communistic. Other nations have gone down that road with big government. Americans should listen to the people who survived. Big government only gets bigger. The result is always disastrous. The people always get crushed.

    Remember, "Government means control and force." Less is better. It's what we fought the Revolutionary War over! Be a true Patriot—vote for less government and freedom for the people of America in Novenber.

  • liberate Sandy, UT
    Sept. 7, 2012 12:42 a.m.

    @sammyg - Did you watch the convention or are you just piping some comments you read on your friends' facebook posts? They were booing yes. But any objective bystander would recognize they were not booing God. They were booing the idea that Jerusalem is the capital of Israel. You may disagree on this point but this is far from the mouth-watering shameful event that some Republicans are making it out to be.

  • bluecoug89 Highland, UT
    Sept. 6, 2012 11:18 p.m.

    1/3 of the people that posted on this have been completely deceived. Sad...

  • The Deuce Livermore, CA
    Sept. 6, 2012 11:13 p.m.

    Well, 4 years later and we are hearing that he needs more time. 4 years ago he was saying that if he could not turn things around he would be gone. We now have the opporutnity to make that happen and get someone in the office that understands how to turn things around. I listened to all of the talks tonight and came away with the following themes: (1) I need more time, (2) We need to spend more money we don't have, (3) I am willing now to work with everyone. Our country stands at the crossroads. Our next choice for president has to be the correct one. We do have a clear choice, one who knows how to get things done and one who needs more time to try and get things done. How much time do you want to spend?

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    Sept. 6, 2012 11:09 p.m.

    It was interesting to hear the democrat's attack Mitt for not being specific enough about how he would grow our economy in his speech even though Mitt outlined 5 specific plans. Tonight what did we get exactly from Barack? Can anyone tell me what the 5 step plan is from Barack other than tax some more and borrow some more and hope it works this time? What a totally lame speech! The man has been in office 4 years and he still has no idea. Time isn't the problem with Barack.... a REAL plan is. To say this guy is over his head is an understatement. I think the man is a total dud obviously but this speech was not an incomplete - it was a Failure.

    Geez - it's like taking your car to get fixed and the mechanic says "wow you gave me a bunch of problems to fix here". You come back 2 weeks later and he tells you "well you know you gave me a bunch of problems to solve here and ... yes I know it is now running worse than before but just give me some more time". Time for a new mechanic!!

  • DavidNL Holladay, UT
    Sept. 6, 2012 11:07 p.m.

    I looked hard to discover Romney's intent as a would-be president, but all I heard was, "I can govern because I know business." That's the thing -- America is not now -- and never has been "a business...". If Romney had run a business that actually made things, or competed, or created jobs I'd get it. But he didn't. So, tonight I listened critically and while I did not hear a nuts and bolts plan, I heard the continuation of a powerful vision for a country I can believe in. A dramatically more realistic portrayal of getting from A to B than Romney's ancient and tired rhetoric. President Obama seems realistic about how America fits into a new world, while Romney seems to only understand the "get rich quick" scheme of lower taxes and program cuts. While corporations now count as people, America is not a corporation nor merely a big balance sheet. President Obama delivered a strong dose of reality with humility that has been absent in modern politics for a long time, and he's simply more believable. And inspiring. Our President is a true leader not merely a business man.

  • Rob Logan, UT
    Sept. 6, 2012 11:05 p.m.

    I think he should live by his word. If he didn't get the economy turned around in 3 years he should just be a 1 term President. We need to get the word out to people to go and vote and vote for experience in turning problem companies around because the process is the same to turn around America. If you have time to make calls for Mitt do it. Just do all you can. $16,000,000,000,000,000 in debt. That is a lot of zero's. 16 Trillion. Did you ever think our Amazing Country would be that far in debt? I have talked with some people who are voting for Obama and they don't answer when I ask if the economy is better than before. Why do they give him a pass? I just don't get it. Is voting Democrat more important than saving our future, our children's and Grand children's future. A nice smile does not pay the piper in the end. I have noticed Obama's nose always seems to be up in the air as if he is better than us.

  • A1994 Centerville, UT
    Sept. 6, 2012 10:52 p.m.

    The President is absolutely correct. The challenge CAN be met. But we're going to need to elect Mitt Romney to do it. This guy is the one who helped create the challenge in the first place.

  • sammyg Springville, UT
    Sept. 6, 2012 10:50 p.m.

    This Democrat convention was the absolute sorriest and biggest waste of time in American broadcast and presidential campaign history.

    Democrats booing God... priceless

    A party so divided on so many issues... delusional

    Gay marriage platform... a real winner

    Biden's intellect... (insert words here)

    Clint Eastwood... nailed it

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    Sept. 6, 2012 10:39 p.m.

    re:one vote

    Special interests have dominated the entire Obama presidency - where have you been???? The man is attached at the hip with lobbyists and union bosses. As far as millionaires and billionaires - where has your golf happy pres spent most of his waking hours - other than golf? With Hollywood millionaires and billionaire buddies like Warren Buffet and Bill Gates. Oh and don't forget his biggest billionaire buddy and influence - GEORGE SOROS. Yes the American hating socialist billionaire. If you want to vote for 9.2% unemployment (as the CBO projects for next year) then go ahead. If you want to vote for 20 trillion in debt which is the projection of the next 4 years of OBama-nomics then go ahead but just know this - this isn't just you that is going to get hosed ... it is your kids and grandkids. China is growing ever stronger as Obama borrows and borrows and borrows and for every dollar we borrow from them we lose another chunk of our freedom and sovereignty. Try to set aside your worshipful emotion of OBama for a moment and think with some practicality.

  • Riverton Cougar Riverton, UT
    Sept. 6, 2012 10:35 p.m.

    That's funny; four years ago, he said that if he didn't have the economy turned around in three years, he deserved to be a one-term president.

    He's right. The challenge can be met. Just not by Obama. He has been weighed. He has been measured. And he has definitely been found wanting.

    Choose Romney-- the true path to economic recovery!

  • one vote Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 6, 2012 9:47 p.m.

    A President not looking to hand over our country to special interests and billionaires.

  • no fit in SG St.George, Utah
    Sept. 6, 2012 9:35 p.m.

    Slam dunk.
    Obama 2012!