This Labor Day, country needs honest exchange about each party's plan for jobs

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  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    Sept. 4, 2012 11:38 a.m.

    re:Anti Bush-Obama

    No actually BO made it very clear that the government alone is responsible for all job creation and business success. If private industry isn't creating enough jobs then the government takes over and hand picks brilliant alternative energy companies to throw our tax dollars at - and watch them go bankrupt. Yes sir - who do ya trust?? At least Obama is consistent with his failures.

  • Anti Bush-Obama Washington, DC
    Sept. 4, 2012 10:42 a.m.

    Romney and Obama don't create jobs. The Government doesn't create jobs. We create jobs.

  • JoeCapitalist2 Orem, UT
    Sept. 4, 2012 8:48 a.m.

    JoeBlow said "Wouldn't it be refreshing if we could get a group of non partisan economists and let them come to a consensus on tax rates and economic policies? And then support and implement their ideas?"

    Wasn't that the whole idea behind the Simpson/Bowles commission whose findings were summarily rejected by the Obama administration?

  • 1aggie SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Sept. 3, 2012 11:37 p.m.

    Pretty interesting, I think, when the Deseret News has to request a member running for president to be honest.

  • JoeBlow Far East USA, SC
    Sept. 3, 2012 7:58 p.m.

    Yes, absolutely the "country needs and honest exchange about jobs"

    But that is not what most people want. They want to put forth the talking points and plans of their party.

    And the people making those plans are people who got elected. They may be doctors or lawyers, or school teachers. But most are unqualified to understand the complexities of the economy. As am I.

    Wouldn't it be refreshing if we could get a group of non partisan economists and let them come to a consensus on tax rates and economic policies? And then support and implement their ideas?

    Call me crazy.

    Or, we can just stick with the current system and just listen to those with little or no qualifications other than they won an election.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 3, 2012 7:31 p.m.

    But Barack said three years ago if he was given his first 787 billion spendathon that unemployment wouldn't reach 8 percent. It reached 8 and has been over that rate for three years, even after several spendathons. Bush was not great, but he has nothing to do with Obama telling the country that if given his first 787 billion that it wouldn't reach 8 percent. Barack, time to be accountable.

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    Sept. 3, 2012 7:20 p.m.

    I think Paul Ryan did give a pretty clear explanation during the RNC if you actually listened to his whole speech. He clearly outlined the Obama failures of the past 4 years from the mis-spent and wasted stimulus to Obamacare and medicare. He explained why OBama's new taxes are going to cause small business to layoff even more ... and by the way Ryan has been saying this for 4 years now and he has been dead on. He predicted pretty much everything regarding the OBama plan and why borrowing and borrowing from China is economic suicide for America. Trouble is the next 4 years are just more of the same. Nothing new. It isn't hard to predict an outcome when you have already watched the game.

  • Eric Samuelsen Provo, UT
    Sept. 3, 2012 5:10 p.m.

    Great quotation Roland! Where's it from?

  • Roland Kayser Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Sept. 3, 2012 9:54 a.m.

    "Labor is prior to, and independent of, capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration."--Abraham Lincoln

    Happy Labor Day everyone.

  • Esquire Springville, UT
    Sept. 3, 2012 8:06 a.m.

    When it comes to the working class, Romney and the GOP are so far beyond a joke that it is tragic. Sadly, the other party has not fought enough for the middle class because of the enormous influence of Wall Street and corporate special interests. Maybe we should just be honest and start calling this "Corporate Titan" day inasmuch as they are the ones who we worship and to whom we give special privileges. Why, one of our major political parties is solely dedicated to their interests.

  • pragmatistferlife salt lake city, utah
    Sept. 3, 2012 7:54 a.m.

    Actually I think this is a pretty fair presentation of the complexity of the issues facing our economy. We have both short term and long term problems and they are different. Short term we still have a lack of demand because of unemployment, savings, and workers digging themselves out of the debt they acrued in the first part of this century. We also have a problem that is both short term and long term and that is the issue the article mentions that entire sections of our economy along with the associated jobs don't exsist anymore.

    Liberals need to switch (not abandon) their focus from the short term to the long term and start to champion whole new industries. Conservatives need to realize that more of the same, tax cuts, tax cuts, and more tax cuts, and a loosing of regulations for exsisting industries does nothing for the present and or the future.

    This isn't your fathers recession, this is tectonic shift in americas future.

  • Baron Scarpia Logan, UT
    Sept. 3, 2012 6:52 a.m.

    Ann Romney says that her husband will make "the tough decisions" about the economy -- seemingly implying that Obama has not. Clearly, the bail out of the auto industry and stimulus (1/3 of which were tax cuts!) were tough, if unpopular and necessary decisions given how close the economy was on the brink of collapse. Loss of the auto industry and its networks of related supplier industries would have driven U.S. unemployment much higher. Even the likes of Clint Eastwood acknowledge that GM has made a comeback!

    Given that Romney has not given much detail on his economic plan of "tough decisions," Paul Ryan's presence suggests that the federal government will make some massive budget cuts. The outcome: Higher unemployment.

    Yes, under Romney we'll all get tax cuts -- including the wealthiest of Americans who off-shore their wealth. But we're likely to have higher unemployment as well, and we'll need "hope" that the job creators will use their tax cuts to make jobs at home.

    I welcome an honest conversation about jobs. The GOP's sudden concern about deficits under Obama, but not under Bush was calculated, disingenuous political theater that hurt America's recovery.

    Sept. 3, 2012 3:53 a.m.

    Don't forget in sourcing. Obama's job program for the world to come here. Between insourcing and out sourcing we are going to lose this country if we don't put American jobs for Americans first.

    I've heard the "through automation and outsourcing" over the flood of Japanese produced goods. China and India are seeing labor unions, global economies level out. But if Americans don't have jobs, we can't buy goods from American business.