Mormons praise Romney for spotlighting the faith

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  • Craig Clark Boulder, CO
    Sept. 4, 2012 9:52 a.m.

    Mormon liberals do a better job job than Mormon conservatives in following the admonition from Church leaders to leave their politics at the door on Sunday mornings. But because so many of the General Authorities themselves are conservative Republicans, a lot of Latter-day Saints seem to assume that political conservatism is practically a tenet of the faith.

  • MrsH Altamont, UT
    Sept. 4, 2012 9:06 a.m.

    JF, I totally agree. Our Bishops stresses every month that testimony meeting is for "bearing pure testimony". This one sound like a campaign meeting for Mitt Romney. Was the Spirit there? It's doubtful.

    I was cringing the whole time I was reading this article.

  • Craig Clark Boulder, CO
    Sept. 4, 2012 8:37 a.m.

    "Mormonism is only about forty years old, but its career has been full of stir and adventure from the beginning, and is likely to remain so to the end." - Mark Twain

    I don't know what makes Mr. Marriott think that Mormonism has been languishing in obscurity. Joseph Smith was a nationally know figure during his lifetime and the Mormon religion was controversial from the outset.

  • JBs Logan, UT
    Sept. 4, 2012 8:14 a.m.

    Certainly there has been bias against the church. There has also been bias within the church against other religions and other races. Although by in large the people I know try hard to be good people, but I have many friends who tell of behavior by Latter-day Saints that was reprehensible. We all need to get past all of this and quit looking for ways to be offended. Let's move forward and stop the fighting. There is nothing we can do about the past, but we can do something about the future. As we do, we can take responsibility for ourselves and do everything we possibly can not to perpetuate misunderstandings and disenfranchisement for ALL of God's children, who are, after all, our brothers and sisters.

  • JWB Kaysville, UT
    Sept. 3, 2012 8:19 p.m.

    As history has shown over the millenia, if a person is religious and a country was established for religious freedom, even though some may state differently, you cannot separate their total character from their religion. Mitt Romney has not wanted to bring that into his equation for running for President of the United States of America. The other Republican candidates in 2008 and 2012 have made it one of their top priorities of bringing religion up in all of the various debates in both cycles. The people of South Carolina made it a big issue also this spring. Governor Romney, in running for U.S. Senator and Governor of Massachusetts didn't run either of those campaigns as a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints but it always surfaces. People since the 1830s have shown their bias against the Church, even devout members who are trying to live a good life. Politicians of the opposing party will not divorce religion from their advertising campaigns as people have come to relate religion and politics the same.

    The military is always prepared for the other side's opposition and you need to be ready for what falls.

  • JBs Logan, UT
    Sept. 3, 2012 5:13 p.m.

    I am not a member of either political party and find I am more concerned about the core of a person and how they treat people. I don't consider a person's religion relevant to how they will govern this nation of people from incredibly diverse backgrounds. The President is not just president of one group of people; he is the president for everyone and needs to do what is best for us overall. It is more important to look at his or her integrity, communication abilities , and abilities to understand the problems we all face. Therefore, in the vernacular of this campaign, Mr. Romney is not a "surrogate" for the LDS church. He is only a surrogate for himself. He does not represent me as a devout Mormon or my views, and he does NOT represent "the church" nor its doctrines or policies. Look at the man and vote for him if you will, but leave the church out of it.

  • JWB Kaysville, UT
    Sept. 3, 2012 3:25 p.m.

    You nor Mitt Romney can divorce his beliefs and running for President. His beliefs, whether in religion or in government, are what made him what he is. His character comes from following the teachings he received from his family, schools, university, church and from meditation and study and especially his works show that. He has committed himself to doing what is right for his country, family and God. He has integrated those principles into his life and which has prepared him to be ready to defend our Constitution of the United States of America and the freedoms we enjoy of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. What a blessing to have people that have studied the teachings and beliefs of our Founding Fathers. Those great people and their families didn't all believe in the same things all the time but they came to a consensus to give us the Declaration of Independence and the U.S. Constitution. Their document for us can have amendments under strict rules and in over 200 years has been modified very few times. Congress and Presidents have attempted to do otherwise but have not succeeded. God bless us in this time.

  • Jennifer in San Diego SAN DIEGO, CA
    Sept. 3, 2012 12:29 p.m.

    Part deux: Of course, I am Romney's judge. WE ALL ARE. He is running for POTUS. It would be stupid to NOT judge his words, his behavior, his ethics, etc. His honesty is not between him and God; his honesty is between him and us, the voters.

    Is Romney pro-life? Not according to his record.

    Has ever worried about getting a pink slip, like he said last December? Ha! He's never been in a position where it was even possible to be fired.

    He he lived in the "real streets of America"? Is he kidding? What real streets? He went to Harvard! He grew up in a wealthy family. He lives in mansions.

    Did he create over 100k jobs at Bain? Not while he was with Bain. And funny how he never mentions all the mass layoffs when he was there...

    It's not judgmental to call Romney a liar. It's the truth. I don't say this as an apologist for Obama. I'm a conservative. I have always voted Republican. This time I'll sit it out. I thought Palin was a joke. Jeesh. This party gets worse and worse.

  • UteRB77 Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Sept. 3, 2012 12:25 p.m.

    Dishonesty? If you're going to throw out the accusation, you need to be specific or you sound like you're one of the 10 people that watch MSNBC. And don't just drink the kool-aid offered by the "fact checkers." What a crock they are. Be responsible and learn the facts for yourself. As for his ability to swing back with knock out blows shows discipline, strategic skill, and political will. Though you may not have been paying attention to the primaries, he never took the first swing but he certainly knows how to finish the fight (ergo Gingrich, et. al.). You watch as the real campaign now unfolds. The gloves will come off, but Mitt will not take personal shots as opposed to the "Amateur" incumbent. Mitt's punches will be direct to the issues at hand and the failures and excesses of the the current administration. As the chosen challenger to the current debacle in the White House, it is Mitt's job and responsibility to drive home those issues with the hardest knockout blows as he can. Politics is a contact sport, and Mitt is the Full Back (think Nagurski, Riggins, Cambell, or Brown).

  • Jennifer in San Diego SAN DIEGO, CA
    Sept. 3, 2012 12:20 p.m.

    Cris, I don't mean that rich does not equal frugal. My family is not super rich like the Romney family but we make more than I would say 99.9% of this country. So please do not think that I believe wealth is bad. I'm pretty fond of it. I'll even take back the frugal statement if it makes you happy. He may be frugal in his own Richie Rich way.

    But how do I know Romney is not honest? Well, if someone tells me he's a vegetarian and I catch him at McDonalds eating a hamburger, it's not judgmental to call him a liar; it's a fact. And I don't have to walk in his shoes to know he's a liar.

  • JF Provo, UT
    Sept. 3, 2012 11:44 a.m.

    Am I the only one who is bothered by the fact that it appears the testimony meeting Romney attended was turned into something like a rally for Romney? Whether you plan to vote for Romney or not, that was inappropriate. It appears that Bill Marriott got that ball rolling. Apparently he forgot what testimony meeting is for.

  • Rocket Science Brigham City, UT
    Sept. 3, 2012 11:24 a.m.

    It is funny how obvious it is to tell what party a person has long since espoused by the comments and accusations they make.

  • Furry1993 Ogden, UT
    Sept. 3, 2012 9:35 a.m.

    I am a devout, observant Latter-day Saint.

    I do NOT want my church judged by a mendacious, manipulative politician like Mitt Romney. The proper role models are people who give of themselves without publicity or notice, like the unnamed and unidentified volunteers referenced in stories like the one in this newspaper entitled "Saratoga Springs makes a call for more volunteers Monday in flood-damaged neighborhood" and other similar stories across the world. These are the people who should be the "face" and the example of the LDS Church; not showboats like Mitt.

  • John Pack Lambert of Michigan Ypsilanti, MI
    Sept. 3, 2012 8:56 a.m.

    The claim that a stake president is "equivalent to a bishop" is not workable. To begin with, it only works if the type of bishop was described. If they mean Catholic bishops they are just wrong. The typical stake president presids over maybe 10 wards and branches in a stake with less than 5,000 members. The typical Catholic bishop presides over 100 congregations in a dioceses with over 100,000 Catholics. The Boston Archdiocese had 1.8 million Catholics in 2006, down from a high of 2.1 million in 2002. In 2010 the Archdiocese of Atlanta had 850,000 Catholics, the Diocese of Salt Lake City in 2010 had 250,000 Catholics, up from 120,000 in 2002. The diocese of Las Vegas has 544,000 Catholics. Thus, Catholic bishops preside over about 100 times the number of people as LDS stake presidents. There are Catholic parishes with over 10,000 members.

  • cris Hamilton, IL
    Sept. 3, 2012 7:09 a.m.

    @jennifer in San Diego
    I'm just wondering how you know that Mitt is not frugal and honest. Are you now his judge? Maybe he has millions because he is frugal. His honesty is between him and his God. And since when is having money bad. Do you know how much he gives to charity? Do you know how he lives his life? Until you walk in his shoes, you have no right to judge him or anyone for that matter.

  • The Taxman Los Angeles, CA
    Sept. 2, 2012 11:52 p.m.

    I couldn't agree with Jennifer in San Diego more. Plus, I think his dishonesty is embarrassing and hurts our church (and the image of Christians in general).

  • Chris from Rose Park PROVO, UT
    Sept. 2, 2012 11:41 p.m.

    @Jennifer in San Diego

    You're not completely right to say that non-Mormon Republicans are voting for Romney just because they hate Obama more. I know some non religious people in upstate New York that like Romney and will vote for him because of who he is and not just because they hate Obama more.

  • Jennifer in San Diego SAN DIEGO, CA
    Sept. 2, 2012 11:15 p.m.

    I'm not a social scientist by any means, but I don't think Romney is helping the Church. LDS people are known to be honest and frugal, two things Romney is not. He changes his opinions with the wind it seems. It looks like no matter what the issue is there is video evidence of him taking one side and then the other when it is politically expedient. He lives a lavish lifestyle that most people in America cannot even begin to imagine and pretends to be a regular ol' Joe. He hedges about his faith all the time. He uses vague terms like "my faith" and does not even really say LDS or Mormon, whereas Ryan is constantly saying, Catholic, Catholic, Catholic. All the Mormons I know (a whole handful) like Romney and hope he wins, but the non-Mormon Republicans I know don't like him at all. They think he is slippery and two-faced. They hate Obama more than they like Romney, so he'll still get their votes, but they are voting for whom they hate less, not whom they love more.

  • Twin Lights Louisville, KY
    Sept. 2, 2012 9:41 p.m.

    Irrespective of whether or not you support Mitt (and good members can and do disagree politically) there is no doubt that the Romney candidacy has put the church in the national spotlight.

    It is my personal belief that this will overall be good but that there will be some negatives as well. I fear that folks outside the church will not be able to distinguish between what Mitt puts forward as part of his platform and what the church teaches. The former may be "informed" by church doctrine but is unlikely to fully reflect it (not that a political candidate should fully reflect a religious institution).

    I do not know Mitt personally. But I have friends who have known him. It appears he is a good man. I am pleased that a good member would take up a torch once borne by Joseph Smith.

  • Janet Ontario, OR
    Sept. 2, 2012 9:36 p.m.

    I love that Harry Reid and Mitt Romney are two of many faces of Mormonism. The Church has affirmed and reaffirmed its political neutrality; it is a worldwide church, where people of all nations, kindreds, tongues, [and political philosophies] are welcome. Romney's candidacy has brought attention to the LDS faith, but it's a mistake to assume that all Mormons are aligned with his politics. He's a candidate who happens to be LDS, not the LDS Church's candidate.

  • The Taxman Los Angeles, CA
    Sept. 2, 2012 9:31 p.m.

    I for one am very vexed by the way Romney is conducting himself and his campaign. As a result of his dirty campaigning, willingness to stoop to any level necessary to be elected, and his campaign's total disregard for the truth, at least half the country holds this Mormon "leader" in very low regard. How good is that for our religion? I'll be glad when this is over so I can stop cringing.

  • Mark B Eureka, CA
    Sept. 2, 2012 8:26 p.m.

    Mitt is entitled to run his campaign however he (and maybe his donors) wish, but it certainly has not been his choice to "spotlight" his faith. In fact, his beliefs are really no one's business - if you believe the Constitution. If anyone has been the chief "spotlighters" of Mormonism this year, it has been those second-rate GOP opponents like Perry and Cain. Nevertheless, Mitt now becomes the Church's best-known face, surpassing Donny Osmund and Steve Young.

  • Lasvegaspam Henderson, NV
    Sept. 2, 2012 8:22 p.m.

    A Scientist: The term “out of obscurity” was used by Jesus Christ in referring to the restoration of His church and in laying out instructions for His prophets in these latter days:

    D&C 1: 30 And also those to whom these commandments were given, might have power to lay the foundation of this church, and to bring it forth out of obscurity and out of darkness…”

    Pretty sure He can use whatever phraseology He wishes!

  • Igualmente Mesa, AZ
    Sept. 2, 2012 7:30 p.m.

    Freedom of religion or freedom from religion is a key precept that founded our country. Latter-day Saints claim the privilege of worshiping Almighty God according to the dictates of their own conscience, and allow all men the same privilege, letting them worship how, where, or what they may. It is un-American to be non-inclusive or intolerant.

  • Mountanman Hayden, ID
    Sept. 2, 2012 6:31 p.m.

    A Scientist: Establishing a theocracy? No, but millions hope he can reestablish the constitution, individual freedoms and revitalize our economy. Our future and our grandchildren’s future depend on Romney winning this election. Go see 2016!

  • AEP Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 2, 2012 6:31 p.m.

    Why, oh, why does Marriott (and the Deseret News!) continue to publicize his "holy undergarments" story? Doesn't he realize that it and others like it are the source of all the "magic underwear" headlines we have to endure? Even if that story is a sincere conclusion on his part, it's a private thing and not something to be tossed out to the wolfish press ... again!

  • SS MiddleofNowhere, Utah
    Sept. 2, 2012 6:06 p.m.

    @ Scientist,
    I'm pretty sure if you are from Provo, you realize the church is already established. It's all over the world. People, however, are still ignorant to its doctrine. Due to recent events that is slowly changing. Ergo, "coming out of obscurity." I think it is funny when people make comments like this, thinking they have made such an astute observation, like they have realized something that no one else has yet. Of course the church tries to grow its members, it's a church. But you are mistaken if you think that Mitt is doing what he is doing for the church.

  • Brave Sir Robin San Diego, CA
    Sept. 2, 2012 5:20 p.m.

    Congrats to Romney for bringing positive press to the LDS Church. He's almost undone all the negative press we've gotten from Harry Reid.

  • A Scientist Provo, UT
    Sept. 2, 2012 4:44 p.m.

    "Coming out of obscurity"?


    Trying to establish their theocracy?