Paul Ryan says he misstated marathon claim

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  • The Taxman Los Angeles, CA
    Sept. 3, 2012 2:31 p.m.

    @ Mountanman

    When you were a little Mountanboy and your mommy caught you in lie, did deflection (pointing out that your brother or sister has told lies or that other people lie too) get you off the hook?

    It amazes me how so many people who should just "own" things here on these boards try to deflect and claim that "everybody does it, so it's okay", when most of us learned, as little children, what a losing (puerile) strategy you are trying to employ.

    The only "world-class" marathon time Ryan is capable of is a marathon of lies.

  • Furry1993 Ogden, UT
    Sept. 3, 2012 7:45 a.m.

    William Gronberg 12:09 a.m. Sept. 2, 2012

    Accuracy is important. Give the man the benefit of the doubt. He and his opponents need to get on with talking about issues that are of greater importance than marathons.


    This is about a MUCH bigger issue than a marathon. It is about whether Paul Ryan is a truthful and honest person. It shows that he isn't.

  • Mountanman Hayden, ID
    Sept. 3, 2012 5:51 a.m.

    Spring Street. Just comparing behavior between two men! Its amazing what some people are willing to accept in the behavior of their own and how they use completely different standards for judging the character of those of the other side! We have the most corrupt, most disingenuous occupant of the White House in the history of America and you guys worry about Ryan’s marathon time? Amazing hypocrisy!

  • spring street SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Sept. 2, 2012 11:00 p.m.

    Reverend Wright, mountain man? I think you are stretching a little thin to try to justify Ryans behavior don't you?

  • WHAT NOW? Saint George, UT
    Sept. 2, 2012 8:29 p.m.


    Rev. Wright?

    You want to go there?

    Fair enough.

    The guy who made the offer was not President Obama.

    But why tell the truth when it is so easy to lie.

    By your logic(?), ryan and romney should be blamed for everything that every right wing nut-job says or does.

    Keep it coming!


  • mark Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 2, 2012 6:51 p.m.

    Mountanman, Wright is not a staunch Obama supporter. Why do you believe Wright is telling the truth? He very well could be lying. Do you have any proof his claim is accurate?

    1aggie, you are right, It seems that Representative Ryan may just be a serial liar.

  • William Gronberg Payson, UT
    Sept. 2, 2012 6:42 p.m.

    Every person who posts here needs to read the following article in todays DN.

    Rodney K. Smith: Politics, partisanship and the pursuit of truth in America

  • Iron Rod Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 2, 2012 6:26 p.m.

    Mountanman or Mountainman
    Hayden, Idaho

    What would be your source that "According to Rev. Wright (a stauch Obama supporter) Barrack Obama offered him 150K for him to shut his mouth about Obama's controversial anti capitalist background."

    Is it a creditable source? I hope it is not one of these e mail I receive all the time from my friends that claim Obama is a Muslim or not born in the United States or he refuses to salute the flag. I usually check and send it back.

    If it is true which I doubt I would really like to know the source of such a comment.

  • Mountanman Hayden, ID
    Sept. 2, 2012 3:50 p.m.

    One more thing; according to Rev. Wright (a staunch Obama supporter), Barrack Obama offered him 150K for him to shut his mouth about Obama’s controversial anti capitalist background. Has Obama EVER come clean on that one? Which matters most to our nation, Ryan’s misstatement about a time he run in some marathon or what Obama covered up?

  • Mountanman Hayden, ID
    Sept. 2, 2012 3:18 p.m.

    Again, I admire Ryan or anybody else for coming clean and admitting their mistakes. Has Obama admitted any mistakes? Has Joe Biden? Has Nancy Pelosi? Did Ted Kennedy ever come clean? If they ever do, I will be anxious to allow them the same respect that I hold for those who do! Until that happens, I must evaluate each person’s fitness to lead this nation on that principle.

  • spring street SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Sept. 2, 2012 1:15 p.m.

    @ Mountanman: Here's the thing - when Ryan "corrected" his "misspeak," he never said he was wrong, or mistaken, or anything like that - he said his rounding was off and he should have rounded a time just over four hours to four hours, not to less than three hours.

    Now, I don't know where you studied math and/or if you do better at math than you do at spelling, but when I was taught rounding, I was taught that you go to the closest number. If you have a time more than four but less than five, your choices are four or five - not less than three.

    And since his whole thing is his plan to fix the economy, if he is unable to do the simple rounding needed to accurately state his marathon time, why on earth should we believe he is capable of the more difficult math needed for something as complex as the US budget over the next several years?

    As a side note, when Kerry was being called on his simple "misspeaks" (which were much easier explained than this) or when someone comments on Obama's state misspeak, do you defend as vigorously?

  • LoveLife Riverton, UT
    Sept. 2, 2012 1:08 p.m.

    I think some of you are setting a very high bar that Obama/Biden are not capable of reaching.

    Obamacare-it's a tax, it's not a tax, it's constitutional as a tax, but it's still not a tax.

    Just on Tuesday, when Obama was referring to a fact-check about something the Romney campaign said, he lied about the fact check. He quoted the Romney campaign as saying, "We won’t have the fact-checkers dictate our campaign. We will not let the truth get in the way."

    When in reality the spokesman said, "These fact-checkers come to those ads with their own sets of thoughts and beliefs. We’re not going to let our campaign be dictated by fact-checkers."

    Would I prefer if no one lied? Of course! Do I care about his marathon time? Not one little bit.

    Do I care what Obama tells me about my taxes? Yes, and I would hope that everyone American does, too.

  • 1aggie SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Sept. 2, 2012 8:16 a.m.

    @ Mountanman
    Ryan did not "correct himself". He was corrected by Runner's World magazine and admitted his falsehood after he was found out. People "correct themselves" before they are found out. Once found out, you are in damage control as Ryan appears to be. He put out a fairly specific number. It was demonstrably false.

  • Esquire Springville, UT
    Sept. 2, 2012 7:41 a.m.

    None of this has anything to do with others, only Ryan and his dubious integrity. Dragging other names into this is only rationalization of his inability to be honest.

  • Mountanman Hayden, ID
    Sept. 2, 2012 7:29 a.m.

    Once again we see the character of this man! Everyone, including ALL his critics, have made mistakes and misstated something in their lives! When people of character do that, they correct their mistakes and move on, learning from them. People without much character (we all know who they are) do just the opposite! I respect Ryan for displaying his character in this manner. When Joe Biden does that, I will have respect for him too but I don’t expect that to ever happen, do you?

  • liberal larry salt lake City, utah
    Sept. 2, 2012 7:24 a.m.

    As a former runner I will state as a FACT that no one accidentally "misstates" their running times.
    The reason that this story is making the news is that the Romney/Ryan ticket is rapidly gaining the reputation as a couple of people who aren't playing straight with the American people. (See todays Kathleen Sullivan editorial) From Mitt's MIA tax returns, to Ryan's misleading statements about Medicare cuts, the perception is that you have to fact check everything these two say!

  • 1aggie SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Sept. 2, 2012 6:53 a.m.

    Paul Ryan is a scary guy... he has absolutely no regard for the truth and his economic plan is heartless.

  • 1aggie SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Sept. 2, 2012 5:34 a.m.

    This speaks, not too well, to his character and to the judgement of the person who selected him as his running mate. When you add this to the many other "misstatements" of Ryan's Republican Convention speech, a pattern emerges for anybody that is not blind to see.

  • William Gronberg Payson, UT
    Sept. 2, 2012 12:09 a.m.

    Accuracy is important. Give the man the benefit of the doubt. He and his opponents need to get on with talking about issues that are of greater importance than marathons.

  • Hutterite American Fork, UT
    Sept. 1, 2012 10:11 p.m.

    This got categorized as 'sports'?

  • Bebyebe UUU, UT
    Sept. 1, 2012 8:32 p.m.

    No one who's run a marathon, especially a single marathon, ever forgets their time. To 'misspeak' by over an hour is simply a lie.

  • DN Subscriber Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Sept. 1, 2012 8:14 p.m.

    Okay, compare anything that VP nominee Paul Ryan says against anything that VP Joe Biden says.

    Ryan may have unintentionally misstated a trivial detail about an event that took place 22 years ago. Biden cannot remember where he is today. Or, recall "You cannot go to a 7-11 or a Dunkin' Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent.... I'm not joking." --Joe Biden

    Or Obama's claim that he was going to cut the deficit in half in his first term, when instead he has nearly doubled the entire national debt run up by all his predecessors combined.

    As Biden would say, "That is a Big ... Deal!" not Ryan's misspeak.

  • Esquire Springville, UT
    Sept. 1, 2012 8:04 p.m.

    This is another example of his lying problem. Why lie about something like this?

  • cavetroll SANDY, UT
    Sept. 1, 2012 7:49 p.m.

    Why is it that politicians never lie? They always "misstate" things or "misspeak." Why can't they simply fess up and say they lied about something? Ryan "misstated" his claim of his marathon time, then tried to back pedal and say he should have rounded up to four hours and not three? In the interview he didn't even round his time. What else has he "misstated" in order to satisfy his ego?