George F. Will: Taking a closer look at liberalism, 'as we know it'

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  • Blue Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 4, 2012 8:46 a.m.

    George Will's criticism of liberalism is exactly as trustworthy and valuable as is a bank robber's criticism of police departments.

  • Emajor Ogden, UT
    Sept. 3, 2012 9:14 p.m.

    Your fawning "George, you're so awesome" me-too attitude sounds far more feeble and befuddled to me. It's easy to stand behind someone doing all the heavy lifting. George Will is articulate, but if his point is hypocritical and founded in selective and poor logic, it means nothing. Funny thing is, you conservatives argue the same thing about Obama, don't you? Magnificent speaker, but the message doesn't make sense to you.

    George Will used to be both articulate and reasonable. Now he is just an articulate partisan hack.

  • samhill Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 3, 2012 8:48 p.m.

    Great message George! And, as always, incisively written with and articulate style that leaves so many of the targets spinning in befuddled circles as they fumble their feeble retorts (the first couple responses are some good examples.)

    It reminds me of the sputterings by the intellectually mismatched (to an astonishing degree) Sam Donaldson when he would attempt to respond to some point made brilliantly by Mr. Will when the two would share the panel on ABC's "This Week" Sunday morning show. Poor Sam would be so completely out classed he was forever trying to catch up. Never quite made it.

  • Joe Moe Logan, UT
    Sept. 3, 2012 12:34 a.m.

    freedomingood, he said, "trickle-down government." As in, build bigger government, expand programs, give more people more money and and services so they become ever more dependent't. Feels to me like liberals these days are less likely to go to church because government is their religion.

    Honestly, I call myself a Republican, but I know that many criticisms of the GOP are valid (including above mentions of tax policies and a certain Hollywood star's speech). But the policies of the Democrats are worse. They have heart, most of them, but they do not see reality. They do not see how a hand-out culture is eroding our country. They do not see how lack of moral integrity is sapping our strength; hedonism is far easier, and it's all about personal choice and nothing about accountability or consequences. They say they want to help, and I think most sincerely do, but they don't see what the policies are actually creating.

    The salvation of this country is in re-learing work, personal accountability, and moral integrity. While the GOP fails on many points, liberals fail on most of these points.

  • Nate Pleasant Grove, UT
    Sept. 2, 2012 11:54 p.m.

    Grandma and Grandpa are not dumb. Medicare "as we know it" is on the road to insolvency. Like all liberal projects, it is running out of other people's money. If we don't reform it, it will come crashing down. Replacing it with a more expensive entitlement is not the answer.

    The decision we face now is, whether the failure of Medicare should be graceful, or catastrophic.

  • Tekakaromatagi Dammam, Saudi Arabia
    Sept. 2, 2012 9:45 a.m.

    I like that phrase, "liberalism, as we know it". The term liberal has been co-opted by a bunch of demagogues who give lip-service to rights, dignity and the poor, all of which are solid second tier interests after paying campaign contributors. i like George Will because he calls people to account for professing values which their actions do not support.

  • Emajor Ogden, UT
    Sept. 2, 2012 7:28 a.m.

    "Say this for Democrats: They recognize a symbol of their sensibility when they see one."

    Oh, indeed Mr. Will. Spoken without irony by a man supporting the conservative party who has nominated a flip-flopper extraordinaire to the presidential ticket, with a running mate who disdains the federal government but has spent his entire career in the public sector. Neither of whom could set down the self-congratulatory platitudes long enough in their RNC speeches to provide us with any specifics on how they expect to fix the economy. The candidate who wanted GM to go bankrupt but recently took credit for GMs turnaround. The party who cheered a rambling and incoherent Hollywood movie star for any weak insult lobbed at the president. The Party who intentionally misrepresented a line in Obama's speech and re-engineered it into the We Built It slogan of the 2012 RNC.

    You believe you spit upon us from a great height, Mr. Will, but your ivory tower is built upon the shaky foundation of hypocrisy and political muck that underlies the Republican Party as well. And you lack the integrity to turn around and recognize that.

  • freedomingood provo, Utah
    Sept. 2, 2012 7:22 a.m.

    Obama's trickle down economics?????


    You mean the tax cuts for the wealthy that republicans insisted on?

    Where do you even decide to keep publishing these partisan stories DN? Not even trying to seek truth are you?

    No, in fact I'm not suggesting you post just as many left wing hacks as right wing hacks. I'm suggesting that you post articles that primarily contain factual information, reasoned thoughts and historically true context.