Utah ACT reports compared to other states is a hard lesson learned

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  • LDS Liberal Farmington, UT
    Sept. 5, 2012 10:52 a.m.

    I graduated from Weber State in Engineering 25 years ago.

    We had Departments back then;
    Mechanical, Manfacturing, Electrical, and Automotive

    That whole Department is now gone. - ZERO, nothing.

    Why - everything was off-loaded and outsourced.

    And then we gripe and complain that all the GOOD paying jobs,
    and everything we have comes from either India and China.

    Heaven help us if we ever go to war against Communist Red China.

    Think about that next time you buy something, anything, at the store...

  • EJM Herriman, UT
    Sept. 1, 2012 9:16 p.m.

    Lifelong Republican and Really: thank you for stating what needs to be said. To Tucket: keep blaming the UEA. It's a dead argument about how the UEA only protects bad teachers. The UEA wants bad teachers removed but also wants to protect good teachers from unfair accusations. Everyone deserves some type of job protection, even people who post the same old worn out "let's blame all unions" argument.

  • The Taxman Los Angeles, CA
    Sept. 1, 2012 2:50 p.m.

    I grew up in Utah and can say that I'm surprised (and pleased) by your scores. The culture there is very business (sales and accounting) oriented, but intellectualism is generally looked down upon and the sciences are not stressed (only one university in the state has an engineering program ranked in the top 100 by U.S. News).

    Hopefully kids are making it through Utah high schools with a love of math and science and after leaving the state to further their educations at top-rate colleges, will return to transform the culture and economy.

  • Really??? Kearns, UT
    Sept. 1, 2012 2:32 p.m.

    We are spending money building new charter schools instead of using that money to support the existing neighborhood schools. We blame teacher yet do little to hold students are their parents accountable for their own education. We stack classrooms 30 to 40 students deep, yet wonder why we rank near the bottom of the rankings in education. We blame the UEA, but we don't realize that this professional association provides mentorship and many educational opportunities to improve the teaching in our state.

    I agree that we can't settle for where we currently stand; we need to improve. We need to push for real changes that will make drastic improvements. Our schools need to be able to hold back students who fail to learn. It needs to start early so that they understand the consequences of their actions. We need to lighten the class loads so that teachers can give more attention to each student. We need to go back to the days when citizens took pride in their neighborhood schools and made contributions to improve them. Let's stop blaming everyone else and start doing something that will make a difference.

  • What in Tucket? Provo, UT
    Sept. 1, 2012 12:08 p.m.

    I think Utah can do better, but maybe the UEA inhibits education here.

  • Lifelong Republican Orem, UT
    Sept. 1, 2012 10:15 a.m.

    Sorry Dnews editorial staff but you missed the boat big time on this one. Last year was the first year that the legislature allocated money for EVERY 11th grade student in the state to take the ACT. That means the kids that have absolutely no intention on going to college took the test. The kid that is barely keeping his head above the failure mark had to take it. The kid that barely speaks english had to take it.

    Through all of that, the results from our state only dropped a tiny bit. That is AMAZING. I figured it would drop several points when I heard what the legislature was doing. I was wrong. They took the lowest achieving students and made them take the test and Utah still fared pretty well.

    That is an incredible tribute to the teachers and education establishment.

    Yes there is room for improvement but this should be an accomplishment that should be applauded on all accounts.