What did Mia Love's actually say at the Republican convention

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  • Furry1993 Clearfield, UT
    Sept. 1, 2012 1:03 p.m.

    To Nate Aug 30 2012 10:13 a.m.

    I'm here to tell you the American people are awake, and we're not buying what you're selling in 2012."


    That should have been directed toward Mitt.

  • mark Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 30, 2012 10:46 p.m.

    "The best way to know if a speech from a conservative is great, uplifting, accurate and effective is watch and see the level to which the liberals go ballistic!"

    You mean you can't just tell from listening to the speech, Mountanman? Interesting.

  • mark Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 30, 2012 7:21 p.m.

    "Mr. Obama destroy their initiative by promising them something for nothing."

    Something for nothing? You got to be kidding. Something for nothing.

    Here is the something for nothing. The Republicans are promising you that they will preserve Medicare and Social Security, and they will strengthen the military, and they will involve us in more wars around the world, and they will create 12 million jobs. And they will do all of this and balance the budget, all while they cut your taxes, or at least the rich guys taxes.

    Talk about something for nothing. The Republicans will say and do anything just to claw their way into the presidency. Disgusting.

  • Nate Pleasant Grove, UT
    Aug. 30, 2012 4:22 p.m.

    @atl34 "Yeah, you should know...."

    Actually, I know it by watching Obama's stature diminish. He keeps sinking to new lows. Watch as he becomes more and more desperate, and you will see it, too.

  • Counter Intelligence Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 30, 2012 3:10 p.m.

    @Happy Valley Heretic

    "Sally Kohn of Fox News wrote: Paul Ryan's speech in 3 words: dazzling, deceiving and distracting."

    Yet Sally basically "deceived" about Ryan's speech in order to perpetuate a liberal meme. For example she claims Ryan said Obama closed a factory yet Ryan never said that (Ryan pointed out that Obama promised the factory would be operating for another 100 years). She said the factory closed under Bush; yet it closed in April 2009. The real meme is seeing how low Obama journalists will sink in order to protect their loved one.

    But back to Love: Her speech was exceptional for what it was intended to be, inspiration (not policy)

    So how is this comment off-topic but Happy Valley Heretic is not?

  • ugottabkidn Sandy, UT
    Aug. 30, 2012 12:31 p.m.

    Does anyone really believe there has been any conversions other than the already converted?

  • ugottabkidn Sandy, UT
    Aug. 30, 2012 12:28 p.m.

    How is it she is not running on her record as a successful mayor? Is this the Mitt Romney formula that states, run only on factual errors and attack on your weakest points? I would like to get more fact checking done on her even though the Mitt camp reject fact checkers. I think I'll just pinch my nose and vote for Mr DINO because going down the nowhere road, like 12 years ago, just doesn't work.

  • Tolstoy salt lake, UT
    Aug. 30, 2012 12:12 p.m.

    @J thomas

    thanks J but your partial quote only affirms others claims that it was full of rhetoric and short on substance.

  • Tolstoy salt lake, UT
    Aug. 30, 2012 12:10 p.m.

    @mike richards
    I did not realize you where also a mind reader (though not very good one) mike, how about you stick to telling us what you think, instead of trying to tell us what we think.

  • Happy Valley Heretic Orem, UT
    Aug. 30, 2012 11:56 a.m.

    JoeBlow, alright I'll accept that she's a liberal at fox, and give them credit, but that doesn't change the fact that he was very deceptive if not outright lying.

  • JoeBlow Far East USA, SC
    Aug. 30, 2012 11:32 a.m.

    OK Heretic,

    I'm calling you on this one.

    Just because Kohn is on Fox news, does not make her a conservative that is bashing conservatives.

    While rare, you should give Fox some credit for bringing in an opposing view rather than use it to bash them. And she is more liberal than most

    Hey, it doesn't happen that often. Give them props for at least this small bit of their purported "balance"

  • atl134 Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 30, 2012 11:16 a.m.

    "Divisiveness, class warfare, race baiting, mud-slinging, and name calling will only get him so far. "

    Yeah, you should know because that's the entirety of the Romney campaign and it's only gotten him so far.

  • Happy Valley Heretic Orem, UT
    Aug. 30, 2012 11:14 a.m.

    Mountanman said: The best way to know if a speech from a conservative is great, uplifting, accurate and effective is watch and see the level to which the liberals go ballistic!

    So what does it mean when your own cheerleading squad disses you?

    Sally Kohn of Fox News wrote: Paul Ryan’s speech in 3 words: dazzling, deceiving and distracting.

    On "deceiving" Kohn wrote:
    ... to anyone paying the slightest bit of attention to facts, Ryan’s speech was an apparent attempt to set the world record for the greatest number of blatant lies and misrepresentations slipped into a single political speech. On this measure, while it was Romney who ran the Olympics, Ryan earned the gold.

  • JoeBlow Far East USA, SC
    Aug. 30, 2012 11:07 a.m.

    "accurate and effective is watch and see the level to which the liberals go ballistic! "

    We will see if you use the same criteria when critiquing the DNC next week. Of course substituting conservative for liberal.

    Consistency is all I ask for

  • Mountanman Hayden, ID
    Aug. 30, 2012 10:43 a.m.

    The best way to know if a speech from a conservative is great, uplifting, accurate and effective is watch and see the level to which the liberals go ballistic! Judging from the left’s reaction to Paul Ryan’s speech, and all the speeches the last two nights were very, very effective!

  • Nate Pleasant Grove, UT
    Aug. 30, 2012 10:13 a.m.

    Mia Love's most important message was directed at Obama himself.

    "Mr. President, I'm here to tell you the American people are awake, and we're not buying what you're selling in 2012."

    He needs to know this, if he doesn't already. Divisiveness, class warfare, race baiting, mud-slinging, and name calling will only get him so far. Then his stature begins to diminish.

    Sure, there may be a few Americans who are really slow on the uptake, who still believe, but most people have got Obama figured out.

    @Moderate: A good Obama supporter probably shouldn't bring up the word "teleprompter."

  • one old man Ogden, UT
    Aug. 30, 2012 10:02 a.m.

    Mike, I actually listened to her speech and heard nothing of substance. Lots of bumper sticker slogans, but no substance.

    And J Thompson, it's not Obama who has failed us. It is a Congress dedicated to doing anything necessary to bring about his defeat, no matter how much it may harm our country that has failed us. That and the failed presidency of Dick Cheney and his little friend.

    Here in these comments we have people like Mike and J who yowl loudly about those worthless people they believe are leaches sucking up American tax dollars. Now they come out in loud support of a woman whose family came to America, partook of the generosity of Americans, accepted who knows how much government assistance, and now is seeking to deprive others of the opportunities she used to succeed.

    Isn't something wrong with that?

  • Kent C. DeForrest Provo, UT
    Aug. 30, 2012 10:01 a.m.

    Everything you hear at a political convention is rhetoric. Its sole purpose is to rile up the ranks, to get the choir to sing louder. It's pure noise. But throughout this campaign, all we have heard from the Republicans is that Obama is a failure. If he is a failure, though, which is certainly a matter of interpretation, it is because the Republicans have had as their openly declared mission from day one to destroy him. Now they are declaring that they have succeeded. Is this the sort of leadership we want?

    Nevertheless, in spite of such intractable opposition, Obama has pushed through a significant reform to our health-care "system" (even if it was basically a Republican plan and very inadequate), helped stop the economic free-fall that occurred in 2008 and 2009, and managed to eliminate Osama bin Laden.

    On their side, the Republicans are offering what? The same economic philosophy that was pronounced dead in 2008. And we are to believe this will solve our problems? Please. Have they no new ideas? They seem to think that if they scream the same irrational blather louder, it somehow becomes less ridiculous.

  • Henderson Orem, UT
    Aug. 30, 2012 9:27 a.m.

    Mia Love's attitude is exactly what's wrong with the GOP. I got mine, now forget the rest of you!

    Her family relied on the government for a time, now Mia wants to significantly cut/do away with this aid.

    She relied on government aid to get through college. Aid that she now wants to cut.

    Now that she got her piece of the pie, she wants to do away with everyone else.

    All while defending military spending.

    I'm sorry, but I'll be darned if I let that happen. Keep your government hands off my pell grants and student loans! Why should we waste billions in Afghanistan and Iraq, giving corrupt Arabs billions in handouts so they can waste it on weapons and opium and destruction while cutting thousands of dollars in aid to me?

    I actually want to build America, this world, and society up! Not tear it down like so many corrupt people who have ripped off our government in foreign countries.

    Mia Love essentially supports punks like Karzai over hardworking American students, like me.

  • L White Springville, UT
    Aug. 30, 2012 9:16 a.m.

    Isn't "rhetoric" fun?

    What would those posters say about President Kennedy's rhetoric, "Ask not what your country can do for you - ask what you can do for your country" or "...let us go forth to lead the land we love, asking His blessing and His help, but knowing that here on earth God's work must truly be our own."

    Was that just "rhetoric" or was it his dream for America?

    Speaking of dreams, what about Dr. King's "dream", "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character."

    Was that just rhetoric?

    Speeches move people to act on their own dreams. My dream is that President Romney will inspire Americans to put their hands to the plow and work to pursue their own dreams and not let someone like Mr. Obama destroy their initiative by promising them something for nothing. FDR started making those false promises of happiness without effort. For 80 years America has been living a lie. Mia Love's rhetoric inspires those who care to listen.

  • Moderate Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 30, 2012 8:39 a.m.


    In chiding posting for daring to ask what Mia Love said, Mike Richards when on a long rant about what "those liberals" are trying to get us to believe -- but never provides a quote by Mia Love.

    Probably a good thing. J Thompson provided some quotes, but they look like generic Republican rhetoric. I suppose reading that from a teleprompter is impressive.

  • Midvaliean MIDVALE, UT
    Aug. 30, 2012 8:38 a.m.

    @MIke Richards
    She said nothing other than rhetoric. Just like her opponent. Makes me want to write your name in on the ticket as a protest vote.

  • Gildas LOGAN, UT
    Aug. 30, 2012 8:35 a.m.

    I checked the video of Mia's speech too, and I agree it was a typical political speech that voiced popular broad attitudes and lacked specificity in terms of ideas. Probably it was suitable to the spirit of a political convention which is why I don't watch political conventions.

    I am more moved by the Ron Paul speech which disclosed the following about the convention:

    1. He was to be allowed to speak there but his speech would be vetted / edited by the GOP in advance.

    2. His speech had to contain an endorsement of Mitt Romney.

    Ron Paul declined to speak on those terms; I don't blame him.

    My own response to Mia Love, so far, is that I have been disappointed so far, and have yet to hear anything to make me hope that she would be an enthusiastic constitutionalist, or stand for specific plans other than the official platform of her party. Oh, not the one that great platform of the Utah Republican Party that is supposed to be read at the Republican mass meetings but the old guard refuse to read based on their own diverse excuses.

  • J Thompson SPRINGVILLE, UT
    Aug. 30, 2012 8:14 a.m.

    Partial transcript:

    "The America I grew up knowing ... was centered in self reliance,
    and filled with the possibilities of living the American dream.

    The America I know is grounded in the determination found in patriots and pioneers,
    in small businesses with big ideals. It's found in the farmers who work in the beauty of our landscape, and our heroic military. It's found in the Olympic Athletes
    and every child who looks at the seemingly impossible and says, “I can do that.”
    That is the America I know!

    President Obama’s version of America is a divided one -- often pitting us against each other bases on our income level, gender, and social status. His policies have failed us!
    We're NOT better off than we were 4 years ago, and NO rhetoric, bumper sticker, or Hollywood campaign ad can change that."


    Some say that she attacked Obama; but, she spoke the truth. HIS POLICIES HAVE FAILED US. He refuses to even acknowledge his own policies. He refuses to run on his record. That is a first and greatest sign of a totally failed Presidency. Nothing he has done has worked. Nothing!

  • Blue Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 30, 2012 8:00 a.m.

    OK, I just watched her speech on YouTube. It's less than 4 minutes long.

    Not a single policy point was discussed. Not one initiative was offered. She said Obama was a failure. She said Republicans are our nations "last best hope." The crowd chanted "USA! USA! USA!"

    That was it.

    Love's speech was to this campaign what cotton candy is to a balanced diet.

  • Mike Richards South Jordan, Utah
    Aug. 30, 2012 7:47 a.m.

    It's obvious that when posters ask, "What did she say", that they didn't listen to her speech and that they are not willing to replay the video of her speech. They want us to ignore her. They want us to ignore her ideals, her principles. They want us to help them help Obama to divide this nation. They want us to help them help Obama destroy our economy. They want us to help them help Obama teach people to covet the wealth of "some rich guy". They want us to help them help Obama regulate and tax jobs out of existence.

    They don't believe in hard work, except for the "rich guy" who will have to work even harder to pay for their doctors and their hospitals, for their homes and their education, for their food and for their clothing, because as Obama's special followers, they are above work. They think that America OWES them.

    They want to pretend that Mia Love does not exist. Thank God that she does exist. Thank God that she is articulate.

  • Furry1993 Clearfield, UT
    Aug. 30, 2012 7:20 a.m.

    What did she actually say? Tons of rhetoric, nothing of substance. Typical Mia Love.

  • Crusader Layton, UT
    Aug. 30, 2012 3:37 a.m.

    All that I have heard from Mia Love is rhetoric, this includes her speech and the advertisements that I have seen on TV.

    This leaves me to assume that her stance on issues must mirror the Republican parties. This is ironic since her parents came here with only $10, and received help from the government the type of help that the GOP wants to do away with. She educated herself with government school loans of the type that the GOP want to do away with.