'Rock Center' could have done better covering the LDS Church

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  • Counter Intelligence Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 31, 2012 1:36 p.m.

    Fascinating how posters who routinely rip on the LDS Church are the ones pronouncing the program "fair"

  • NedGrimley Brigham City, UT
    Aug. 29, 2012 4:44 p.m.

    Piggie: You need to re-read Ranch Hands post. He was disputing the caffiene comment, not claiming it to be true.

  • LDS Liberal Farmington, UT
    Aug. 29, 2012 12:27 p.m.

    1. It was an independantly produced TV program, NOT a Missionary tool. If the church wants an hour long Nation-wide infommecial, they can pay for one. This was a freebie.

    2. NBC is the evil so-called "Lame-Stream-LIBERAL-Media", the church was treated with kid-gloves. BTW - remind me again,...Wasn't it Fox News on Fox & Friends that kept broadcasting and insisting that Mitt Romney was NOT even a Christian and Fox News commentor Juan Williams (falsely) implied as recently as just last week that the LDS church was racist because blacks were allowed in LDS Churches but not LDS Temples?

    3. Not one word about us LDS being the ones promoting such bizzare things as unorthodox marriages [polygamy], Social Justice & Communism [the United Order], or that other 9/11 terrosit attack in 1857 [Mountain Meadows Massacre].

    Like I said -- kid gloves.

  • Mister J SLC, UT
    Aug. 29, 2012 11:51 a.m.

    Maybe if Rock Center did more; it would have gotten negative?

    Then, the persecution complex gets played again not to mention rants about bias in the mainstream media.

    re: RanchHand 8/28 9:08 a.m.

    Liberal NBC being shills for Willard? Really?

  • RanchHand Huntsville, UT
    Aug. 28, 2012 9:05 p.m.

    @Miss Piggie;

    The family that was profiled said: "I've never had a coke" because she was following the WoW. I was pointing out the inaccuracy of the presentation there. Mormons are NOT forbidden to drink caffeine, otherwise they wouldn't even drink their beloved Hot Chocolate. But they guzzle coke like there's no tomorrow. They made it appear as if you couldn't drink the beverages. That is completely inaccurate.

    By profiling an inter-racial couple, they made it seem as if it was the norm. It is, as you said, very rare.

    The welfare program segment was interesting and I'm sure non-members would find it very interesting.

    I'm glad they included Abby Huntsman; and she was not negative at all.

  • Mr. Bean Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 28, 2012 4:49 p.m.


    "Harry Smith said essentially, 'I can go into OTHER churches -- why can't I go into the Mormon temple?'"

    If Harry wants to know about the Temple Garment... he has pictures.

    If he wants to know about the Temple ceremony, he can go on line.

  • Miss Piggie Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 28, 2012 4:46 p.m.


    "Mormon's are forbidden to drink caffeine for one..."

    Where'd you get that little tidbit? The Word of Wisdom lists as forbidden only wine, strong drink, tobacco, and hot drinks. The guy's Dr. Pepper he admitted drinking now and again doesn't fall into any of those categories.

    Furthermore, the WoW was designed and adapted to the capacity of the weak and the weakest of all saints. And not by commandment or constraint.

    "The piece was over the top positive."

    The piece was slanted and selective. How many interracial marriages do you find in the LDS Church? It's extremely rare. Same with homosexuality.

    And why does anyone need to get their perspective from someone who's left the church, such as the Huntsman girl?

    None of this stuff was mainstream and had no place in an interview to discover what Mormon belief/Chruch is all about.

    Though, I'll have to admit, the segment on the Welfare System was informative and well done.

  • Blue Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 28, 2012 1:02 p.m.

    "But other parts seemed subtly slanted to make Mormons appear to be too rigid and intolerant and exclusive and blindly obedient"

    Slanted? Others would argue that it's an objective observation.

    News you don't like doesn't always equate to bias.

  • Grover Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 28, 2012 12:04 p.m.

    As a non member who has lived here for many years, I thought the coverage of Church by NBC was very favorable. To ask for more would have required the PR department of the Church write the script. They left the standard drivel (polygamy) in the background and gave a real boost by showing a faithful interracial family as if that is so common. The section on the Book of Mormon, the Musical was a veiled shot at the Church and homosexuality, but even that was balanced by the section on the gay man who was still practicing and faithful as he walked in the Pride parade. On the whole it was free nationwide publicity for the Church.

  • PeanutGallery Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 28, 2012 10:21 a.m.

    Much of the NBC program was positive or benign regarding the LDS church. But other parts seemed subtly slanted to make Mormons appear to be too rigid and intolerant and exclusive and blindly obedient. The program appeared to be timed on the eve of the Republican convention in order to plant a few doubts in people's minds about a Romney presidency.

    Harry Smith said essentially, "I can go into OTHER churches -- why can't I go into the Mormon temple?" Well, Harry, you are welcome to attend Mormon worship services. They are held on Sundays in thousands of chapels across the country. On the whole, Mormons are an open, friendly, and inviting people. But NBC seemed determined to focus on a few people on the fringe. Further, the showing of people wearing only LDS garments/underwear was rather disrespectful.

    Also, congrats to the Jackson family, who were observed and interviewed extensively for this program. They represented their LDS faith very well. And immediately after the program aired, they were interviewed live here in Utah on KSL Channel 5. The Jacksons' follow-up comments were right on target.

  • HaHaHaHa Othello, WA
    Aug. 28, 2012 9:47 a.m.

    I am always amazed at the naive belief that the media is going to report the truth, or actually seek to be accurate and actually spend "equal" time on real subject matter. I didn't see the program, but would tend to agree with those who dislike the church and post here, by saying that LDS members shouldn't complain too much, because it could have been worse. These "news" programs almost always have an agenda, and they can edit and lend more time to foolish and misleading information then facts, and it's just the way it works. You will never get the complete REAL picture! In modern day journalism, if the truth would have been reported, it would most likely have been a complete accident! Now all the haters can go on about equal time for the controversial history of the church, and I have no problem with them reporting that, but to be fair and honest about it, that would have taken up 38 seconds of a 1 hour program!

  • JoeBlow Far East USA, SC
    Aug. 28, 2012 9:14 a.m.

    "Think Pres Hinckley would have complained?"

    Not at all. He was very media savvy.

    However, I keep hearing that we should go to the LDS Church to find out what they believe.

    Pres Hinkley had several interviews which helped people to understand the beliefs.

    That said, he was fairly elusive on several questions, leaving people to look elsewhere for answers.

    If you want to be the "go to" source, your spokesmen will need to be more forthright and open.

  • LValfre CHICAGO, IL
    Aug. 28, 2012 9:11 a.m.

    All this complaining .... NBC did the LDS church good with this segment! They were fair and balanced like journalism should be.

    What do you want from them? To sell the church to it's viewers? It's journalism ... they're going to cover good and bad. They did more good than bad .... it left a favorable view of the church.

    Do you have ANY idea how bad they could have made the church look? They could have dived into so so SO many things. But they didn't.

    So lay off. They just helped your precious Mormon candidate.

  • RanchHand Huntsville, UT
    Aug. 28, 2012 9:08 a.m.

    It was a fluff piece, start to finish; not to mention all the inaccuracies (mormon's are forbidden to drink caffeine for one; 75% activity rate? hardly).

    The piece was over the top positive. It made me think it was a paid-for advertisement to enhance the Mittster's prospects.

  • Blue Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 28, 2012 8:58 a.m.

    I watched the program. It was a huge, sloppy kiss on the lips to the Mormon faith.

    To complain that NBC didn't adequately genuflect before the church office building just shows how spoiled you are.

  • The Real Maverick Orem, UT
    Aug. 28, 2012 8:22 a.m.

    It's your job to be a missionary. It's your job to invite the spirit into other peoples' lives. NOT the TV's job.

    This is why so many members of the church live on stagnant testimonies. They aren't engaged.

    Become engaged. Think Pres Hinckley would have complained?

    Get out and preach! Teach by example! Convert not just complain!

  • SG in SLC Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 28, 2012 8:14 a.m.

    I think Don Robertson makes a fair point, and I agree to some extent (more on that to follow), but I also think that Joe Blow hit the nail on the head when he posted, "Remember, it was only and hour long show." An hour probably wasn't enough time to allow the breadth of reporting necessary to paint a more comprehensive picture of the LDS church.

    I definitely agree that Rock Center's protrayal of the Chuch was very positive and favorable overall, and that they fairly and reasonably presented an outsider's look inside. I guess I was just a little disappointed that (at least in my opinion) it had kind of a "10 Things You Might Not Know About the LDS Church" feel, rather than a "Readers' Digest Condensed Overview of the LDS Church"; but since I wasn't the producer of that particular show, and certainly wasn't footing the bill for it, I really can't complain.

  • Esquire Springville, UT
    Aug. 28, 2012 7:54 a.m.

    The program was overwhelmingly positive. Stop complaining. It wasn't a missionary program. They could have focused on a lot of negative things.

  • Mike in Cedar City Cedar City, Utah
    Aug. 28, 2012 7:41 a.m.

    The Church is fortunate that the coverage was as benign as it was. They could have focused a much more negative history and narrative than they did.

    Given today's nasty political climate, that was a pleasant surprise to me.

  • Midvaliean MIDVALE, UT
    Aug. 28, 2012 5:34 a.m.

    If you were expecting a piece that was going to bring more into the fold, I think you set your expectations WAY to high. NBC is a third party not interested in converting. So their outside perception of Mormons won't ever be what you want. The outsiders will ask questions that make sense to them, not you.

  • JoeBlow Far East USA, SC
    Aug. 28, 2012 4:21 a.m.

    Sharon Angle of Nevada said

    "We wanted them to ask the questions we want to answer, so that they report the news the way we want it reported."

    It does not work that way, nor should it.

    The story YOU want told has already been done.

    LDS dot org has that story. And it covers what they Want to be covered, how they want it covered. It does not deal with any of the church's baggage, and that is completely understandable (and, I believe that All churchs have baggage, not just the LDS)

    But differing views give a more complete and accurate picture.

    Remember, it was only and hour long show.

    The show gave a very favorable impression of the LDS church.

  • Lasvegaspam Henderson, NV
    Aug. 28, 2012 2:53 a.m.

    I learned something new from the broadcast. I had no idea we had "Mormon Royalty", and that Abby Huntsman was it!

    You'd think that if you wanted to learn something about our temples that you'd choose to interview someone who'd been in one.