BYU football: Cougars expect a faster start for the offense this season

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  • Mister J SLC, UT
    Aug. 28, 2012 9:04 p.m.

    per Red Headed Stranger (8/27 1:16 p.m)...

    "Football is ancillary to the main mission of BYU - to educate the mind and the spirit."

    So, it won't bother you if/when Byu eliminates pigskin?

    Could not help but notice a slight political bias w/ your list... That is hardly illuminating. Get back me to when Conan O'Brien and/or the Dalai Lama speak in Happy Valley.

  • Wally West SLC, UT
    Aug. 28, 2012 8:55 p.m.

    re: PAC man 8:43 p.m. Aug. 27, 2012

    What would be byu's so called legacy be w/o the Lavell era?

    p.s. 71-26

  • Wally West SLC, UT
    Aug. 28, 2012 8:51 p.m.

    @ 3grandslams 12:41 p.m. Aug. 27, 2012

    "With the teams they've played, in the venues they have...impressive!"

    All that spin has made me dizzy.

  • PAC man Anaheim, CA
    Aug. 27, 2012 8:43 p.m.

    News For U

    Only SIX conference championships in the last 55 years is pathetic, no matter how you slice it.

    Only FIVE Top 25 finishes in both polls, in your ENTIRE HISTORY, is just as pathetic, especially for a johnny-come-lately program who only thinks he's accomplished something of significance on a national scale.

    BYU fans don't need to slice and dice Utah's record to make U look bad; your complete lack of a national award of any kind speaks for itself.

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    Aug. 27, 2012 4:26 p.m.

    a faster start against Boise and the U?? I don't think so.

  • Utes Fan Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 27, 2012 3:06 p.m.

    @Riddles in the Dark

    Ever heard of the phrase "yet to win the big one"? That is Bronco.

    Ignoring and not including Utah's BCS bowl season, is typical of one-sided Cougar fan remarks. Putting ALL the stats together, the two coaches are close to even, given the overall win-loss records. But if you Cougar fans would value an extra conference championship over a BCS bowl and undefeated season, then so be it. Most people would disagree. That said, Bronco is a great coach. But until he wins a BCS bowl with an undefeated season, he is a step below Kyle. You gotta win the "big one" so to speak, and when you do, the nation notices and eyes are opened. Bronco has yet to do that.

  • News For U Sandy, Utah
    Aug. 27, 2012 2:59 p.m.

    @ Marked it Down

    "From a Utah fan's perspective, I guess you could classify them as obscure, since the Utes have so few of them:"

    From a BYU fan's perspective, I guess you could classify win/loss records in the rivalry series as obscure, since BYU is on the losing end of it....BIG TIME!!!

    "Only 6 conference championships in the last 6 decades".

    Gotta love BYU fans and their selective stats just to make Utah look bad.

    Let me correct you on this one:

    Utah has won 24 total conference championships (one more than BYU).

  • BlueHusky Mission Viejo, CA
    Aug. 27, 2012 2:49 p.m.

    Stop with the ancient comparisons. The Yankees have won 28 World Series. That guarantees nothing for this year. Utah won a couple of BCS bowl games. Big deal. What have they done lately? What will they do this year? BYU sucked the first half last year and we all know why. This is a new year. I hope the Utes think, like their fans, that they are a great team. They'll find out otherwise, probably in September. Losses to USC and vengeful BYU will puncture the fantasy balloon. As for BYU, they'll lose two of those tough road games, but Utah won't be one of them.

    Just sayin'.

  • 4601 Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 27, 2012 2:41 p.m.

    It will be fun to watch their development, good players who are good people.

  • News For U Sandy, Utah
    Aug. 27, 2012 2:12 p.m.

    @ Just the "Facsimile"

    Obviously your predictions were based on a facsimile which was lost in transmission and not based on actual "facts".

  • Truth Machine Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 27, 2012 1:52 p.m.

    Red Headed Stranger

    It's doubtful Chris B will be much impressed, since he's likely never heard of most of the people on your list.

  • Red Headed Stranger Billy Bobs, TX
    Aug. 27, 2012 1:16 p.m.

    Chris B.,

    Thank you for taking an interest in the Devotionals, Forums, and Firesides at BYU. Former speakers at BYU include
    - Margaret Thatcher
    - Dick Cheney
    - Chief Justice John Roberts
    - Sandra Day O'Connor
    - Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid
    - Joseph Lieberman
    - Condoleezza Rice
    - David Petraeus
    - F.W. de Clerk
    - Physicist Neil de Grasse Tyson
    - Historians Ken Burns, David McCullough, Simon Schama and James Burke, to name a few.
    A schedule can be found at the calendar link at the BYU web page. Devotionals and Forums are on Tuesdays. I strongly recommend listening to them, as they are simultaneously broadcast on KBYU. You don't have to go through the rigorous BYU admissions process to hear them. Past speeches are available in the "News and Events" link on the main BYU website.

    Football is ancillary to the main mission of BYU - to educate the mind and the spirit. I strongly recommend a talk given at BYU by a University of Utah alum Neal A. Maxwell called "The Inexhaustible Gospel". It is filled with profound thoughts, and helps illustrate the role that BYU has. Yes, the devotionals are more important than football.

  • LonestarRunner Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 27, 2012 12:54 p.m.

    Riddles in the Dark

    You can't blame Utah fans for only wanting to cherry pick highlights - even they realize that Utah's 2011 was mediocre, at best, and Bronco's overall record is clearly better than Kyles, especially when it comes to losing to BAD teams, which Utah fans love to pretend never happens.

  • 3grandslams Iowa City, IA
    Aug. 27, 2012 12:41 p.m.

    In all fairness to BYU's "slow start", they have opened the season with BCS teams every year but one (and then they scored 41 points like they were supposed too). To go 5-2 with opening games,most on the road, against opponents from the ACC, SEC, PAC 10, and the BIG 12. This actually isn't a story about low production as much as it is great fall preparation.

    With the teams they've played, in the venues they have...impressive!

  • Riddles in the Dark Olympus Cove, Utah
    Aug. 27, 2012 12:24 p.m.

    Utes Fan

    Unfortunately for U, OVERALL record is based on more than ONE season.

    Every single stat you cited is from 2008 - typical of blinders-wearing Utah fans who think that one game makes a season, and one season makes an overall record.

    According to hill calculus, the WORST team in the PAC 12 in 2011, was BETTER than the Utes. The Utes have settled into their conference bottom dwelling role nicely.

  • Utes Fan Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 27, 2012 12:16 p.m.

    @Marked it Down

    You left out a few:

    Top 10 finishes:
    Kyle 1
    Bronco 0

    Top 5 finishes:
    Kyle 1
    Bronco 0

    Victories over end of season top-10 ranked teams:
    Kyle 2
    Bronco 0

    BCS bowl victories:
    Kyle 1
    Bronco 0

  • Just the FAX Olympus Cove, Utah
    Aug. 27, 2012 12:15 p.m.


    It's nice to dream isn't it?

    But, eventually you have to face reality:

    BYU basketball - another 25+ win, NCAA tournament season
    Utah basketball - between 10 and 15 wins, IF, they're lucky

    BYU football - 10-2
    Utah football - 7-5

  • Dnquixote Las Vegas, NV
    Aug. 27, 2012 12:08 p.m.

    I think most Utah fans are focused on the improvement of the program. The last 8 years have been great for the program. Two BCS years and then an invite to the PAC. I would never argue the Utah has a richer history than BYU. Only that Utah is been headed in a different direction for the past decade.
    Last year wasn't great. It will get better. Utah's recruiting is getting better every year, including this year, despite last year's struggles.
    Next year BYU fans will change their tune about what it really means to play schools from major conferences game after game. It is a different world.

  • Barnbug1 SPANISH FORK, UT
    Aug. 27, 2012 11:59 a.m.

    @ fan of all sports

    I'm a fan of both schools also, although i'm more of a basketball fan.
    I can't wait for the season to get here. My predictions for each team:
    Utah 25 and 7. They recruited Jordan Loverage. BYU 15 and 17. I love
    them so much.

  • fan of all sports Heber City, UT
    Aug. 27, 2012 11:27 a.m.

    I'M a fan of both teams. I hate the hatred that fans have for each other. Both fans view their programs as one of the best in the nation. The rest of the country doesn't see it that way. The PAC 12 is seen as the Big 3, 3 or 4 nice teams and 6 or 7 bad teams. Utah fits in the nice team catagory. Top programs are lining up to play BYU because they are a recognizable non BCS team that you have a 90% chance of winning. Lately BYU hasn't beaten a highly regarded program since Oklahoma and they had a down year, for a long time.
    My predictions for each team: Utah 10 and 2. They don't have to play 2 of the Big 3.
    BYU 7 and 5 losses at Utah, Boise, Notre Dame, Georgia Tech and either Washington State or Utah State.
    Th week Utah 49 Northern Colorado 3 BYU'S slow starts continue Washington State 31 BYU 21.

  • PAC12Fan South Jordan, UT
    Aug. 27, 2012 11:15 a.m.

    Here we go Cougars, here we go. Get em' Leach.

  • Marked it Down Park City, UT
    Aug. 27, 2012 11:06 a.m.



    Since when are Top 25 finishes and conference championships "obscure" stats?

    From a Utah fan's perspective, I guess you could classify them as obscure, since the Utes have so few of them:

    Only 6 conference championships in the last 6 decades.
    Only 5 Top 25 finishes in both polls, EVER!

    I will give U for getting pretty adept at losing to 10-loss teams, however.

    TWO losses to 10-loss teams in the last 5 years, as many has BYU in it ENTIRE HISTORY!

    Utah's heyday is behind the Utes - you topped out at #2/#4. Not bad for a school that prides itself on being 2nd best.

  • Dnquixote Las Vegas, NV
    Aug. 27, 2012 10:44 a.m.

    @Marked it down

    And your point is? Always with the same slanted stats trying to be better than Utah. How about trying to better than last year, every year. Or trying to be better than each opponent. Stop judging success on whether or to can dig up obscure stats to say you're better than Utah. Start beating Utah and THEN you can say that.

    P.S. My personal favorite is "top 15 wins" as opposed to "top 5 wins". You should go into politics.

  • MacNasty Rexburg, ID
    Aug. 27, 2012 10:43 a.m.

    Hey Chris B

    First question: What does Alabama, USC and BYU all have in common?
    Answer; They are all National Champions.

    Second question: Who is missing from the list?
    Answer: Well, that is pretty obvious. Your attempt to achieve relevance via associations and/or osmosis is laughable.

    Win the National Championship. Until then, talk is cheap. Mark it down.


  • dansimp Layton, UT
    Aug. 27, 2012 10:15 a.m.

    To me its not about comparisons between the two. Anyone, whether they wear blue or red, that cannot see and admit that Mendenhall and Whittingham are two of the best young coaches in college football, are delusional.

  • Marked it Down Park City, UT
    Aug. 27, 2012 10:11 a.m.

    Top 25 Finishes
    Bronco 5
    Kyle 3

    Top 15 Finishes
    Bronco 3
    Kyle 1

    Conference Championships
    Bronco 2
    Kyle 1

    Overall Record
    Bronco 66-24
    Kyle 65-25

    Losses to 10-loss teams
    Bronco 0
    Kyle 2

    After all of the spin and gum beating from the kids on the hill, Bronco STILL has the better overall record.

  • dansimp Layton, UT
    Aug. 27, 2012 9:49 a.m.

    GoGetter, you're hilarious. "continue to believe him after his record", you mean the 66-24 record?

  • dallas realist rockwall, texas
    Aug. 27, 2012 9:46 a.m.

    Chris B

    umm they are Firesides!! get it right man

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 27, 2012 9:39 a.m.

    Do we know what the lineup is for the devotionals this year?

    I hear after seeing how amazing byu is there are teams like Alabama, USC, and Utah that are implementing similar devotionals.

    BYU 2012 national church devotional champs!

  • CT98 Saint George, UT
    Aug. 27, 2012 9:34 a.m.

    I like Riley but I'm worried he will stay healthy. I really hope James Lark is ready to lead this team if Riley goes down. I hope we see some series with Lark in the game on Thursday. He needs game time reps early in the season so he can be effective in the latter half of the year.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 27, 2012 8:21 a.m.

    Congratulations coach leach on your first win as a prestigious pac12 coach. Your games against other bcs teams will be significantly tougher

    Washington state 34
    Byu 20

    Mark it down

    If byu beats utah I won't post on byu articles all year

    I will be posting all year

  • GoGetter Sandy, UT
    Aug. 27, 2012 7:54 a.m.

    Every year Bronco hypes up the team with these types of comments, I just wonder why people continue to believe him after his record?

  • Cinci Man FT MITCHELL, KY
    Aug. 27, 2012 7:51 a.m.

    I am so glad that the week has finally arrived to answer 2000 questions fans have about this year's team. This is the first year I'm approaching the season with all the trepidation that Doman has overcome, so he says. Fans have been led to over-estimate BYU for so many years now, that the writers and coaches have little credibility to this fan. So I'm developing my expectations AFTER each of the first 4 games, starting with the MOST important game of the 4 - this weekend. I wish them well. A loss will cause me to put no air in my balloon. A win is the only way to get me excited for the season. A BIG win does so much more for me.