Randy Hollis: 2012 is the year of the returning quarterback for Utah's 'Big 5'

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  • Stang08 Cedar City, Utah
    Sept. 2, 2012 5:34 p.m.

    You won and did it well. You contained Brad and that's what needed to happen. But that tells me you guys were afraid of him. Good luck next week against an always better Utah team.

    Aug. 31, 2012 6:22 p.m.

    Stang, where you at, buddy?

  • Stang08 Cedar City, Utah
    Aug. 29, 2012 10:01 p.m.

    Above average? And yes we could beat a very very bad FBS team again. I'm not ashamed to admit Cal will kill us. But for you to think USU will do the same is dumb. Sorry but I don't see it your way. You'll find out just how good we are in less than 24 hrs.

    Aug. 27, 2012 8:59 p.m.

    Stang, the one who is in for a brutal shock is you. SUU is an above average FCS team, and will be playing against an above average FBS team in Logan. The disparity is quite huge. Yes, you beat a very, very bad FBS team in Vegas, but Utah State will not be pretty, and Cal will be even uglier for you.

  • NevadaCoug Overton, NV
    Aug. 27, 2012 5:09 p.m.

    On Saturday, September 17, 2001, Utah was better than BYU.

    After the season was over, College Football "experts" had the opinion that BYU was a better team than Utah, since they ranked the Cougars higher in the polls.

    Those are the facts. I'm sorry if some people just can't handle them. Maybe if Utah hadn't lost at home to a team that hadn't won a road game in four years(?) then we wouldn't be having this conversation.

  • Stang08 Cedar City, Utah
    Aug. 27, 2012 3:07 p.m.


    Good point it is on Thursday. But you really need to think about how good each team is. SUU should be able hang with you guys for the whole game. All aggies are way to confident. And when you are overconfident your team get's punched in the mouth. UNLV found that out a year ago and you aggies will find that out in a few days.

  • Riverton Cougar Riverton, UT
    Aug. 27, 2012 1:39 p.m.


    You make it sound as if there is no way BYU could beat Utah this next year. I'm glad you think that way. In that case, I'm kind of glad that Utah's win against BYU was as wide of a margin as it was, if it leads you and the Utah players to believe that BYU will be an easy win. There was no way Utah could lose to UNLV or 2-10 Colorado at home, either.

    We don't know how good these teams will be, but I really hope your Utes underestimates the Cougars as much as you do.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Aug. 27, 2012 12:10 p.m.


    I was looking at Riley's 2010 and 2011 ratings, he actually had a QB rating of 165 vs 2010 Washington as well. But Washington in 2010 was one of the worst defenses. Against 2010 AF (9-4) he struggled, QBR 74. Let me try again, against non-WAC-like (aka good defenses) defenses Riley has struggled.

    BYU is 4-8 vs teams above .500 with your current talent, last 2 years. So how can BYU "easily go 5-1" against @Utah, @GTech, @Boise, @ND, Washington State, and Utah State? Is your team really that much better than last year? It would be more of a shock if BYU went 5-1.

    @CTJ fan

    If Riley and Alisa are as good as you say they are they should have been starting from Game 1. At the end of the season, Alisa struggled against better teams TCU and Hawaii, but ran over the other teams. Riley's QB rating against TCU 111 and Tulsa 109, others 160+.

    Yes Wynn also has struggled (QBR: 2011 - TCU 77, @ND 98, BYU 103 and 2012 USC 100) but then again he was injured. Thankfully we have a PAC-12 RB.

  • ute4ever West Jordan, UT
    Aug. 27, 2012 11:18 a.m.

    If you don't believe the complete bias this newspaper has for BYU, then all you have to do is look under the Utah/Jordan Wynn section and see where the writer is completely oblivious to the fact that there is no longer a PAC-10. He says "If Wynn, who had two shoulder surgeries over a 10-month period, can stay healthy, Utah should be better than it was in its Pac-10 deut." (until they see this post and change it). It would be nice to have just a little bit of knowledge about teams not named BYU from the news media in SLC. I guess they understand who pays the bills.

  • Jenny83 OGDEN, UT
    Aug. 26, 2012 11:59 p.m.

    CTJ --- Utah lost to Colorado by 3 points
    BYU lost to Utah by 44 points -- HUGE difference

  • AltaHawkFan Sandy, UT
    Aug. 26, 2012 11:50 p.m.

    Uh .. Randy. Make that 4 QB's that missed games due to injury. Nelson also missed 2 games due to injury.

    Local media is being over optimistic predicting the utes' record. I'd say 7-5 and a berth in the NM bowl is most likely.

  • Aggieforlife Logan, UT
    Aug. 26, 2012 10:55 p.m.

    You need to keep up with your team down there in Cedar better. I've seen two posts from you about some game on Saturday, but the game is actually on Thursday. I can see SUU coming out hot because Sorenson is a good QB, but I really don't think the T-birds will be able to hang with the Aggies past the first quarter.

    Now on to the article. 8-4 for the Aggies is a good prediction. Of their 4 losses that Randy is probably seeing (Wisconsin, Utah, BYU and LA tech), I'm hoping for at least another 2 wins from those 4. But as Stang08 has so delicately put it, you can't underestimate anyone, that's why predictions are just for fun and the teams will do the proving out on the field this season. Good luck to all teams from Utah, except when they play my Aggies!

  • Austin Coug Pflugerville, TX
    Aug. 26, 2012 8:57 p.m.

    10-2 for Utah? No way even if Wynn stays healthy the whole season. Their offense just isn't good enough. Is Utah really suddenly much better than at least 3 teams that beat them last year? I just don't see it. 8-4 for USU is probably fair. However, this is still the same team that has been woefully inept for years and struggled to finish games last year. Maybe they figure it out this year. 9-3 for BYU is fair as long as Riley stays healthy. If not, 7-5 is more likely.

  • CTJ fan Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 26, 2012 6:39 p.m.

    Sorry Uteology, but the same offense didn't go against those schools, Riley wasn't the quarterback, and Alisa didn't really get a chance till after most those games and he's fat better than what BYU had last year. Now that Riley is actually the quarterback and taking all the snaps the off season etc. he'll be a lot better than last year, with better running game a more experienced coordinator and they're far better than last year. And there defense which was very good last year will be better this year. I have much more faith in our offense than your Ute offense. You speak like your heads and shoulder above BYU which is NOT the case, your team won a game 2 years ago even though they were dominated most of the game, and won the game last year that was more of a fluke than anything else, Utah was not better than the Y last year, you can't look at a game where everything went wrong, unless you want to look at the Colorado game as well, and say Colorado was better than you! Take the blinders off!

  • Wiscougarfan River Falls, WI
    Aug. 26, 2012 6:11 p.m.

    RE: Uteology

    "Riley's QB rating is 110 or below against non-WAC defenses."

    Not true. Nelson averages 131.5 against PAC12 teams (103 against Utah, 160 against Oregon State). Coincidentally, Riley's 132 is better than the 126 Jordan Wynn averaged last year against PAC12 teams (100 agaiinst USC, 152 against Washington). True that neither of these QBs had particularly amazing stats last season, but let's not make things up.

    " They can easily go 2-4 with games @Utah, @GTech, @Boise, @ND, Washington State, and Utah State."

    They can also easily go 5-1. A lot will be answered this weekend as BYU and Utah both open with easy games, can't wait to see how they do. Only four more days, 1 hour, 17 minutes, ten seconds, nine, eight...

  • Stang08 Cedar City, Utah
    Aug. 26, 2012 2:05 p.m.


    You are really laying this on thick aren't you. This is why I hate the aggies. They can't underestimate anyone yet that's all they are doing for Saterday. I truely hope Coach Lamb and Brad Sorenson and the team as a whole punch the ball down the aggies throats Saterday. I'm tired of all the loud mouths.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Aug. 26, 2012 12:15 p.m.

    Worst case for Utah is 8-4. The toughest games of the season in order are: USC, @Washington, @Utah State, California, @ASU. They can go 2-3 against those teams. Barring any major injuries I do think 10-2 is achievable if they beat the teams they should USU, Cal, and ASU.

    Worst case for BYU is not 9-3, more like 7-5. The same offense went 2-2 vs BCS teams last year and Riley's QB rating is 110 or below against non-WAC defenses. Their running game was even worse against such defenses. They can easily go 2-4 with games @Utah, @GTech, @Boise, @ND, Washington State, and Utah State.

  • Mount Olympus Salt Lake, UT
    Aug. 26, 2012 12:14 p.m.

    I think you are being too generous for Utah and BYU.

    Utah will be underdogs in at least 2 games (USC, and @Washington). The rest of their Pac-12 games are winnable, but they are all losable too. ASU probably won't be very good, but they have a tough place to play. @UCLA right after the USC game could be difficult. Home at Cal will be a test. I would be happy with a 9-3 season.

    BYU, road games of Utah, Boise State, Georgia Tech and Notre Dame. Really they could lose all 4. Don't sleep on home games vs Washington State or Utah State.
    BYU probably will go 8-4. Possibly even 7-5.

  • Wildcat O-town, UT
    Aug. 26, 2012 10:46 a.m.

    Considering Weber State playing two FBS teams and a pretty tough FCS for non-conference, I think 6-5 with a new coaching staff would be pretty good. They need to only schedule on FBS team for money, one D-II team for basically a scrimmage win, and then two FCS teams for non-conference once FCS starts playing 12 games.

    I think Randy's predictions are a little generous across the board, but we'll see. Can't wait to start the season because the Cubs suck something awful this year. Cheers!

    Aug. 26, 2012 7:51 a.m.

    Sorry, Randy, but Utah State, Fresno State and BYU are not "BCS" schools, they are FBS schools. Some accuracy and objectivity would do wonders for your credibility. 9-3 is not "the worst" BYU could finish with that schedule. Or perhaps you don't remember games last year such as 2-10 Mississippi, 5-7 UCF, 7-5 Utah State and 8-5 Tulsa. They could have started the season anywhere between 4-1 and 0-5. Usually that scenario equals out like USU, who had 10 games that could have gone either way that they went 5-5 in, but in BYU's case, they were lucky to be 4-1 in those close games.

  • gdog3finally West Jordan, Utah
    Aug. 26, 2012 1:56 a.m.

    I am a huge Ute fab but all these 10-2 predictions are jumping the gun. Gordon Monson had Utah at 11-1. Really? Look, it could happen, and I hope it does. Still i won't predict that.

    Most the optimisic picks still have Utah losing to USC. I get that, but I think it's more likely to beat USC than go 5-0 on the road in the PAC 12. Although Utah avoids Oregon and Stanford this year, and has USC at home, they still have 4 home conference games and 5 road ones. If USC is goig to be a loss, then it would be better if that game were on the road. If you wipe that one away with a loss, then Utah has 3 home games vs. 5 road games (in conference).

    I have high hopes for this years Utes, including beating USC, but a 10-2 prediction is a bold one. I just hope Utah can get past USU and BYU in weeks 2 and 3. I would say take it one game at a time, but I already penciled in a win against Northern Colorado.

  • Aggie238 Logan, UT
    Aug. 25, 2012 10:36 p.m.

    The article oozes with pro BYU bias. But then again, this is the Deseret News so I can't say I'm surprised. Looking forward to the Aggies beating BYU on conference weekend. But first, I'm excited to see them take care of business and steamroll SUU on Thursday. SUU will hang for a little bit, but I just don't think they have an upset in them. One quarterback does not a football team make, especially when the other team has the best two QBs in the state. 35-13, USU.


  • Stang08 Cedar City, Utah
    Aug. 25, 2012 9:02 p.m.

    I can't wait for SUU's season. 6-5 for the third straight year is ok. But I think we can get one more win then that. Hopefully starting next week in Logan.