Utah Utes football: Freshman Travis Wilson focused only on his own play, improving

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  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    Aug. 22, 2012 3:10 p.m.


    Looks like StGtoSLC beat me to it, but there you go: Whittingham has 66-wins to his credit.
    How embarrassing for you, but I guess that's what you get when you go about frantically and emotionally making stuff up.

    Aug. 21, 2012 10:26 p.m.

    "Nowhere at all credits whittingham with the fiesta bowl win, not even utah's own site."

    From Utah Athletics:

    " Kyle Whittingham

    Head Coach
    8th Year
    Alma Mater:
    Brigham Young (1984)

    Year at Utah: 8th
    Career Record: 66-25
    Bowl Record: 7-1*
    *Includes 2005 Fiesta Bowl"

    "You are the only one, so frantic and so desperate that you are trying to make stuff up like that.


  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Aug. 21, 2012 9:48 p.m.


    Nowhere at all credits whittingham with the fiesta bowl win, not even utah's own site. You are the only one, so frantic and so desperate that you are trying to make stuff up like that.


  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    Aug. 21, 2012 4:29 p.m.


    "FALSE!...It is 65-25...Even with the math they teach at the u that is still only 65 wins and 25 losses...LOL!"

    Yes, Math at the U IS more advanced than that dubiously WACey "brand" they teach down there in Utah County. In Dec. 2004, Utah hired Kyle Whittingham to replace Urban Meyer as the Utes' Head Coach; not Head Coach in Waiting. Thus, the January 2005 Fiesta Bowl game is credited to Whittingham. Ergo, Kyle is 66-25. Case closed.

    But congratulations to Bronco for beating up all those 1-AA/FCS teams in order for him to get up to those 66-wins. He really showed them who's boss.


  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Aug. 21, 2012 1:24 p.m.

    @naval vet

    "whittingham's win/loss record is 66-25."


    It is 65-25

    2005 - 7-5
    2006 - 8-5
    2007 - 9-4
    2008 - 13-0
    2009 - 10-3
    2010 - 10-3
    2011 - 8-5

    Even with the math they teach at the u that is still only 65 wins and 25 losses.


  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    Aug. 21, 2012 12:01 a.m.

    SportsFan and Duckhunter:

    Whittingham's W/L record is 66-25. That means that Bronco does NOT have "more wins" than Kyle. However, Bronco DOES have more wins vs. FCS opponents (not that Kyle had ever lost to one), and more wins vs. the weakest teams in the WAC.

    Kyle has more wins vs. BCS opponents, more wins vs. ranked opponents, more wins in the postseason, and more wins vs. Bronco.

    Edge: Kyle Whittingham

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    Aug. 20, 2012 11:54 p.m.

    Haha! I have to "LOL" at worf regarding his first post of the day:

    "You are a great WAC team like Wyoming, and that is all you will ever be."

    Last I checked, it's been the "Band of '54-10' Quitters" who have been playing great football in the WAC, and look to do so again THIS season.

    Too bad for our little brother that the WAC folds after this season. They might have to start poking around C-USA. And UCF and Tulsa seemed to give them all they could handle. C-USA is pretty big step up from the WAC in level of competition.

    Oh well. Maybe they can get still get some games from "independent" (i.e. nobody wants them either) Idaho and NM State.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Aug. 20, 2012 11:39 p.m.

    Las Vegas, NV,

    You don't get it, do you? I used the words of a ute fan in my post. I changed ute to cougs, and cougs to utes, with a few small changes. I come here to see if those same ute fans post here. The venom stings both ways.

    Ute fans are constantly posting trash on cougar articles, and it will become more frequent.

  • Qwest Perfected Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 20, 2012 10:48 p.m.

    I'm looking forward to seeing Wilson on the field this year. I hope it will be in 4th quarter mop up duty rather than in a starting role, but I like his attitude and competitive spirit.


    Just keep holding your breath for byu's next "breakout year" - I'm sure this is the year right? After all, we all know byu is the perennial preseason national champions. I think they may even have a tee shirt that states as such. The last breakout year was 1984 so I'm sure they have turned the corner by now.

    If ten wins is all that it takes to make you happy, by all means keep filling the schedule with Idaho, Idaho State and New Mexico State etc. That record is something to hold onto for sure. It was so impressive it got ranked 25th in 1 out of 4 national polls. Keep making Utah county proud.

    As for the Utes, the future is very bright and I can't wait for the season to begin and for hopefully all of the talk to end.

    Go Utes!

  • Dnquixote Las Vegas, NV
    Aug. 20, 2012 7:53 p.m.

    I will never understand the purpose of BYU fans randomly citing age-old stats to prove they are better than Utah.? If you want to prove you are better than Utah, beat us, or make an argument for how you will beat us. Don't tell me about when your grandpa beat us.

    Worf - Why are you on here day after day, providing unsolicited information? Let Utah fans be Utah fans. Go support BYU, don't spend your time attacking Utah.

    Travis Wilson looks like he could be a great QB, or at least a really good QB. I hope we don't have to find out for another year or two. Here is to Wynn's health!

  • DeepBlue Anaheim, CA
    Aug. 20, 2012 7:17 p.m.

    Provo, Ute Fan

    "Having 10 win seasons by playing Wac teams week in and week out is not hard."

    Then why did Utah only have ONE 10-win season in their entire 37 years in the WAC?

    Obvious answer - because U can't even beat 10-LOSS teams!

    BYU has had as many 10-win seasons since 2001, as Utah has had in its ENTIRE HISTORY!

    Some programs just make 10-win seasons look so easy, that other, less accomplished programs, assume that it must be.

  • Provo, Ute Fan St. George, UT
    Aug. 20, 2012 6:20 p.m.

    Having 10 win seasons by playing Wac teams week in and week out is not hard. If BYU fans think they have had more success then Utah, something must be in their punch. Even my friends that play for BYU understand that Utah is better off and proven to be more successful.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Aug. 20, 2012 4:49 p.m.

    The mind of Chris B, has has caused contention on both sides.

    In all honesty, both teams are equal. Look at the record. But Utah has:

    * made coaches of cougar players.
    * copied the cougar playbook
    * followed the cougars with recruiting Polys.
    * helped by BYU television revenue during its days in the WAC, and MWC.

    An apology from Jenny83 would suffice.

  • Proud Ute ,
    Aug. 20, 2012 4:37 p.m.

    "Mendenhall with more overall wins than whittingham."

    So the troll doesn't have the smallest modicum of respect for the man that he can't even capitalize Coach Whittingham's name.
    Pretty pathetic for an alleged adult who claims to be involved with kids and in community affairs. I'm truly grateful you don't interact with my kids in any way. Just have to wonder if those parents in Highland know how small you really are?

  • reaganyouth Kirkland, WA
    Aug. 20, 2012 2:58 p.m.

    Ute fans PLEASE stop replying to BYU trolls. We've move on the bigger and better things....they're just trying to get attention from the kids table. BYU is no longer in our league literally or figuratively.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Aug. 20, 2012 2:56 p.m.

    Like I said before Wilson is the future. I would like to see him start against NC.


    BYU can't even contend for a BCS berth let alone a national title.

    Utah might not have athletes to compete for a national title but they have more athletes than BYU according to the NFL draft.

  • Rockwell Baltimore, MD
    Aug. 20, 2012 2:23 p.m.

    Sounds Utah is getting ready to throw Travis to the wolves. At least the Utes have an experienced OC to help take some of the pressure off.

  • Tom in CA Vallejo, CA
    Aug. 20, 2012 1:36 p.m.

    Wilson will get plenty of playing time. History proves Jordan Wynn will get knocked out early.

  • Snack PAC Olympus Cove, Utah
    Aug. 20, 2012 12:25 p.m.


    "Utah, on the other hand, is disciplined to focus on winning rather than talking."

    You mean, like the entire week before the Utes were DESTROYED by TCU 7-47?

    However, you are correct about the need for Utah fans keeping mum about championships. Until the Utes master the art of beating the 10-loss teams and conference bottom-dwellers on their schedule, it would be wise for the Utes to avoid any talk of championships of any kind, be they conference or national.

  • jpjazz Sandy, UT
    Aug. 20, 2012 11:56 a.m.

    The Utes success lie in the future, not necessarily this year. One would hope that they have a short fuse with Wynn and look for playing time for Wilson.

    We have seen what Wynn and Hayes can do and it's not a pretty sight against PAC 12 talent.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Aug. 20, 2012 10:27 a.m.

    @utah "fans"

    You fail to realize that Worf's post is an almost word for word copy of one your very own christina b posted on a BYU article. Worf just took it and changed it slightly for your benefit. If you think it is ridiculous then you are really criticizing one of your own. LOL! Nicely done Worf!

    @go utes

    Actually Lone Star Runner is wrong about the overall records of Mendenhall and whittingham. It is Mendenhall with more overall wins than whittingham. Glad to see you just assumed the opposite was true. It's not. LOL!

  • SportsFan Orem, UT
    Aug. 20, 2012 10:14 a.m.


    "Isn't it funny that despite all of BYU's accolades mentioned above you still decide to end it all by stating that Utah has one more win in this era than BYU does?"

    What's even more funny is LonestarRunner misspoke.

    The actual record is

    Bronco 66-24
    Kyle 65-25



    You left out a couple of stats - let me help you out:

    LOSSES to 10-loss Teams
    Bronco - ZERO
    Kyle - TWO

    SHUTOUTS to 10-loss Teams
    Bronco - ZERO
    Kyle - ONE

    LOSSES to conference bottom dwellers - CSU, Wyoming, New Mexico, UNLV, Colorado
    Bronco - ZERO
    Kyle - SIX

    Sorry to disappoint you little brother, but Utah will NEVER out recruit USC, and Kyle's propensity for losing to conference bottom dwellers will keep the Utes from ever winning a conference championship.

    With a playoff starting in 2014, BYU doesn't need to be associated with a power conference in order to be a contender for a national championship. The Cougars have enough quality teams on their schedule that they're well positioned to be a serious contender when their next breakthrough year comes.

  • JDL Magna, UT
    Aug. 20, 2012 10:07 a.m.

    At Jenny3

    Jenny, your rant is just that, a rant. Alabama (2008) on paper was and is far superior to Utah. I do not mock Utah's win over Alabama though. Utah had a superior game plan and shell shocked the Tide in the first quarter particularly but to infer that Alabama was that much superior to Oklahoma is ridiculous at best. Remember, BYU took out the #1 QB in the country which completely altered the fortunes of Oklahoma.

    Utah's Sugar Bowl win will forever be a glowing historical achievement and it should be but to compare Utah's wins and BYU's wins is all conjecture. It's like comparing BYU's 70-31 win over Utah and Utah's 54-10 win last year. A win is a win and should be enjoyed but to gloat in the face of your opponent will get you a personal foul and will come back to you as humiliation like the loss to Colorado which diminished the BYU win.

  • Andy Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Aug. 20, 2012 10:03 a.m.

    Worf is funny. Like many TDS players and fans their conversation each preseason is about a NC.

    Utah, on the other hand, is disciplined to focus on winning rather than talking. This is more my style.

    GO UTES!!

    Aug. 20, 2012 9:27 a.m.

    Hey worf, Minnesota also has an undefeated season and a national championship on their resume. Would you call them a national title contender? Accomplishments in the previous century are nice but don't mean a think in 2012.

    From what I have heard, there are no plans to redshirt Wilson this year and I suspect he will get some playing time. Hopefully it is time in games where the outcome has already been decided and Wynn can make it through the season. We shall see.

  • JDL Magna, UT
    Aug. 20, 2012 9:11 a.m.

    Jenny3 and MidMajor

    You took the bait completely, Worf's comment is, just as he said in his opening line an edited version of a post by a BYU hater a few days earlier. All he did was turn the tables and poke fun at u. That it was at your expense is the best part.

    LOL at silly girls and silly boys!

    As an occasionally jealous but ardent BYU fan, I like this Travis Wilson kid and believe he will be a star at Utah, I agree with PAC12 and Spokane Ute, I wish Wynn well but I don't hold out much hope he will survive the season.

  • Wallbanger Spanish Fork, UT
    Aug. 20, 2012 9:06 a.m.


    You forgot to mention...

    BYU top five finishes, ZERO
    BYU NFL drafts last two seasons, ZERO
    BYU BCS game victories, ZERO
    BYU invites to an elite conference, ZERO
    BYU corny T-shirt slogans, endless

    Sorry to disappoint you little brother, but Utah will only continue to out recruit and play the Y from here on out. If Utah wins come Sept 15th (very likely) then you guys will disappear for only a couple weeks. Then reappear on here posing as Washington or USC fans. You guys are priceless.

  • Go Utes! Springville, UT
    Aug. 20, 2012 8:57 a.m.

    Isn't it funny that despite all of BYU's accolades mentioned above you still decide to end it all by stating that Utah has one more win in this era than BYU does? and lets not forget that Kyle and the Utes have the rivalry edge as well. sooooooooo....
    GO UTES!

  • LonestarRunner Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 20, 2012 8:22 a.m.


    Sorry, but the skewed record from the Crowton era is meaningless. BYU and Utah both have new coaches, who have been in place for 7 years. During the Bronco/Kyle era:

    BYU has been ranked in the Top 25 FIVE times; the Utes only three.

    BYU has THREE Top 15 finishes, Utah only ONE.

    BYU has FIVE 10+ win seasons, Utah only three.

    BYU has TWO conference championships, Utah only ONE.


    BYU 65-25
    Utah 66-24

    Sorry to disappointment you little sister, but Utah is once again lagging behind.

    No worries; the Utes are so deep and talented, and Brian Johnson is such an amazing Offensive Coordinator, that the Utes don't even need a QB to beat Northern Colorado. After that, well...

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    Aug. 20, 2012 8:04 a.m.

    Im not so sure the Utes wont be better off with Wilson. Wynn has trouble staying healthy. I'm glad it's a positiion Utah is fairly deep at.

  • sammyg Springville, UT
    Aug. 20, 2012 6:48 a.m.

    Interesting to see the 'media grooming' of a new Ute QB when the 'old' one just has a 'sore arm'.

    More stories like these will whip up a full case of 'panic mode' in a heart beat!

    It's going to get fun this week.

  • PAC12Fan South Jordan, UT
    Aug. 20, 2012 6:39 a.m.

    The best part about Travis is his desire to continue to improve. Having to play against Utah's defense each day will only make him better. Travis will get playing time this year. Look for Travis to get significant playing time this year.

  • MidMajor4ever Syracuse, UT
    Aug. 20, 2012 4:29 a.m.

    Wilson is a stud! He has the skills and attitude to be a very successful quarterback.

    worf, your comments are laced with jealousy. I'm truly sorry your team wasn't invited to the PAC-12 so the rivalry could continue. Your comments were entertaining and humorous, I hope that was your intent.

    I'm sure you know that Utah does have the "athletes" to contend for a national title. In fact, Utah currently has 30 players on NFL rosters, byu has 14. I'm not saying Utah will contend for a national title this year but the Utes have finished in the top 5 with two undefeated seasons in the last decade. Has byu? Has bronco, as a head coach, ever had one of his recruits drafted by an NFL team? No. Yet you mention him with Saban, Spurrier and Stoops?

    FYI, byu did not play "Oklahoma along the way" to their *National Championship*. Did you mean Tulsa? byu didn't play a single team that finished in the Top-25 during 1984 and beat the 7th place BIG-10 team in a pre-Christmas, lower tier bowl game.

    Good luck Travis Wilson! Go Utes!

  • Jenny83 OGDEN, UT
    Aug. 20, 2012 12:02 a.m.

    Worf, Beating the likes of "Oklahoma along the way" You beat them by 1 point and Oklahoma lost 5 games that year. The Utes won the Sugar Bowl to a much, much, more superior Alabama team (superior to Oklahoma)...And as far as our athletes are concerned..the Utes way outshine the Cougs...Alex Smith was the #1 overall pick after his senior season...star Lotulelie of the Utes is projected to be taken 1st or 2nd overall in next years NFL draft.....John White was ranked the 9th best running back in college football last year..and etc. etc...

  • Jenny83 OGDEN, UT
    Aug. 19, 2012 11:51 p.m.

    Worf -- The Utes have been undefeated twice in the last 8 years how about BYU...Also, for some reason your team can't beat Utah...Only 30% of the time in the last 10 years.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Aug. 19, 2012 11:34 p.m.

    Edited from a Ute fan trying to cause contention:

    Quarterback is the toughest position to recruit at Utah"

    Interesting. I've said similar things and I get criticized when I do.

    Utah does not have the "athletes" needed to be a true national title contender like BYU, Alabama, Texas, Boise State, and USC. Why do I include BYU? By virtue of having an undefeated season and National Championship. BEATING the likes of Oklahoma along the way - we've proven we have the athletes and coaching staff to be the best in the nation.

    We know what when you have a football team, winning games is #1.

    This is another reason Utah is not and will never be a true national title contender.

    When was the last time you heard someone like Saban, Mendenhall, Stoops, or Spurrier say winning football games doesn't need national television coverage? Never

    I applaud Utah for sticking to what they believe in.

    but Utah fans need to wake up and smell reality - your program is incompatible with being a true national power. So stop acting like you are.

    You are a great WAC team like Wyoming, and that is all you will ever be.