GOP looks to distinguish Mitt Romney from Paul Ryan budget plans

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  • UTAH Bill Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 14, 2012 9:15 a.m.

    Wow - what party chooses a candidate and then immediately says they don't support his ideas? This is crazy.

  • one vote Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 14, 2012 9:09 a.m.

    Has Ryan rejected hos own budget that he has advanced for the ast two years non-stop?

  • Furry1993 Clearfield, UT
    Aug. 14, 2012 5:42 a.m.

    To Peter R 9:34 Aug. 12, 212

    For those thinking that it's hypocrtical to endorse the person and not his plan, it's not only possible, but it's common practice in many businesses.


    You forget that Mitt not only supports Ryan, the person, he has also in the past enthusiastically supported and endorsed Ryan's (very extreme) plan. Now he doesn't, because he's putatively won the nomination and doesn't have to pander to the far right to get the nomination. Now Mitt has again done what he does best. He's flip-flopped -- he supports Ryan as a way to pander to the far right while trying to distance himself from Ryan's plan so he can pander to more centrist voters. Neither Mitt nor Ryan is what this country needs. NO THANKS!

  • atl134 Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 13, 2012 3:36 p.m.

    "4 more years of Obama is going to mean 15% unemployment within the first 2 years."

    How so? We've gained private sector jobs 30+ straight months and other than minor .1-.2% blips unemployment has been decreasing the last couple years after we stopped the massive job-letting that Obama/McCain inherited (didn't matter which was president, when 700k jobs are lost the month you take office, you're going to lose a couple million more jobs over the next few months).

  • atl134 Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 13, 2012 3:32 p.m.

    If you don't support the Ryan budget plans in large part then you don't make statements that you do, nor do you pick Ryan as the VP pick. Romney didn't have to pick a VP who supports a tax policy that would have made Romney pay a mere 0.86% in taxes instead of 13.9%.

    Then again Romney has distanced himself from his time as Governor, many of his previous positions, and even now wants people to stop talking about Bain when he had previously made it the centerpiece of his campaign so... I guess it's only natural for him to want to distance himself from his VP too.

    "Democrats will criticize Romney, Ryan and Republican efforts to reduce deficit spending."

    Not quite, we criticize the means by which Ryan would go about reducing deficit spending. Personally I support massive deficit reduction but I want higher taxes (Ryan wants to lower taxes for the rich, and eliminate the capital gains tax which is where most of Romney's income comes from), defense spending cuts (Ryan/Romney want more war spending) and I want small reductions to entitlements (Ryan bludgeons them).

  • NedGrimley Brigham City, UT
    Aug. 13, 2012 2:50 p.m.

    "In science it often happens that scientists say, 'You know that's a really good argument; my position is mistaken,' and then they would actually change their minds and you never hear that old view from them again. They really do it. It doesn't happen as often as it should, because scientists are human and change is sometimes painful. But it happens every day. I cannot recall the last time someting like that happened in politics or religion." ~ Carl Sagan

    We, the people, just won't allow it.

  • Badger55 Nibley, Ut
    Aug. 13, 2012 2:35 p.m.

    I didn't find anything in the article that suggests Romney is running from the Ryan plan. He has mentioned many times, since his announcement of Ryan as VP, things from Ryan's plan that he believes will work. Like giving people the choice for Medicare as it is or as vouchers. It is laughable that people try to portray Romney as distancing himself. And, clarifying the fact that Romney will be the one making the decisions does not distance himself from Ryan or his plans.

    Here is the proper way to distance yourself. President Obama on Rev. Wright:
    "I've known Reverend Wright for almost 20 years. The person I saw yesterday was not the person that I met 20 yrs ago."

  • Henry Drummond San Jose, CA
    Aug. 13, 2012 1:13 p.m.

    Well that didn't take long. Not only is Romney repudiating his own past policy positions, he's doing the same thing with his newly minted running mate. What's the point of putting a "true conservative" on the ticket and rejecting what makes him conservative?

  • merich39 Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 13, 2012 11:53 a.m.

    With the selection of Paul Ryan as the V.P. candidate, clearly Mitt Romney and the GOP have declared war on the middle class. With Mitt we had, at best, apathy towards the middle class. With Ryan, we undoubtably have animosity towards the middle class.

  • The Skeptical Chymist SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Aug. 13, 2012 11:42 a.m.

    I'm sorry Mitt, you picked him, you live with that pick. You can't pick a guy and then disavow the only thing he is known for. Choosing Ryan is a dream come true for Obama. Now he can truly run against the do-nothing Republican Congress, which has set itself against doing anything in the good of the country ever since Obama took office. My only hope is that Ryan drags down the Republican ticket so that we get a Congress that will actually do something.

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    Aug. 13, 2012 9:11 a.m.

    well that was real smart - pick a VP and then distance yourself from him. Holy cow - OBama is going to win just because no one else knows how to run a campaign and the loser is - The American people. 4 more years of Obama is going to mean 15% unemployment within the first 2 years. Yes liberals will be cheering cheering and cheering ... until the stark reality of 4 more years of high unemployment ... and an even worse economy... set in. But I guess since many liberals are entitlement "Freddie the Freeloader" types anyway and don't want to work then unemployment could go to 20% and they would care less. America is toast!!

  • williary Kearns, UT
    Aug. 13, 2012 7:58 a.m.

    Anyone else find this amusing?

    The ONLY qualification Ryan has is his work with budgets, albiet his very dubious work to say the least.

    Now Mitt is distancing himself from the budget work Ryan has done!

    That's like the San Antonio Spurs telling Steve Kerr, "We signed you to a contract, but we don't really want to jacking up any 3's!"

    If someone can pin down Mitt and get a straight answer from him on any issue, it will be a first.

  • Mark B Eureka, CA
    Aug. 12, 2012 11:21 p.m.

    Are we talking about companies or people? Oh, wait. I forgot. They're the same thing, right? So in this case, it's LIKE people, but with more money. I got it now.

  • Peter R Provo, UT
    Aug. 12, 2012 9:34 p.m.

    For those thinking that it's hypocrtical to endorse the person and not his plan, it's not only possible, but it's common practice in many businesses. Consider acquisitions of small companies by large companies. Often, the large company will hire the smaller company for its expertise and known product, but we don't see the larger company release that product after acquiring he smaller co. What often happens is that the larger company sees the potential of the smaller company's ideas and likely has a related product that they,ve been working on. They buy out the smaller company for their expertise and insight.

    So, consider Ryan as the smaller company with potential and expertise that Mitt, the larger company, sees potential in tapping and marrying his ideas with.

  • RanchHand Huntsville, UT
    Aug. 12, 2012 9:11 p.m.

    Oh goody. Now we get to witness another Romney flip-flop. He's already endorsed Ryan's budget plan. It's going to be very hard to distance himself from it now.

  • WHAT NOW? Saint George, UT
    Aug. 12, 2012 8:42 p.m.

    Too late.

    romney has become just another cheer-leader for ryan.

    Few in the republican party have any allegiance to romney.

    romney will be dropped, for 2016, by the party not-so-faithful, even if he wins in November.

    Voters are not voting for romney, they are simply voting against President Obama.

    Tax pledge wonderkind grover n. as well as republican party spokesperson Charles K. have said republicans don't need/or want romney to do anything other than what his big money donors tell him to do.

    ryan is the true face/heart of uncompromising conservative politics 2012.

    No etch-a-sketch or flip-floping as a political albatross around his neck.

    ryan will be a tough candidate to beat in 2016.

  • David Centerville, UT
    Aug. 12, 2012 7:53 p.m.

    Obama's latest budget received Zero votes in the House, and Zerio votes in the Senate. Not a single Democrat voted for it. The fact that not one congressman or woman would vote for the presidents budget seems to reveal his lack of vision, his lack of a plan, and his lack of leadership. Obama's budget reveals that he is not serious about strengthening America's workforce, it's employment, it's economy.

    Harry Reid, as Senate Majority Leader, has failed to put forward a budget in the Senate for 3 years! How can Americans possibly vote for any Democratic president, let alone Obama.

    Too many Americans don't study economics, they don't read the newspaper, they don't understand our history and the principles that have made America great. Too many Americans don't vote, and too many Americans vote poorly. How else could you explain the support that Obama receives?

    We get what we deserve, but hopefully enough Americans will vote wisely and vote out Obama in November. This man, Obama, has fundamentally changed America in a very negative way. Another term and it will be devestating.

  • David Centerville, UT
    Aug. 12, 2012 7:46 p.m.

    Democrats will criticize Romney, Ryan and Republican efforts to reduce deficit spending. But the question that Americans need to ask themselves is whether they want America to remain strong or not. In order for America to remain a world leader, a humanitarian nation of charitable giving, a world leader of democracy and freedom, then America must balance its books.

    We spent $1.2 Trillion in deficit spending last year. During the Obama presidency the annual deficit spending has been $1 Trillion + each year. So for Ryan to propose $5.2 Trillion in spending cuts over 10 the math. Is his proposed reductions enough to balance the budget in 10 years? No it is not. If we continued federal spending as we have been, we would have deficit spending of at least $11 Trillion in 10 years. This would propel our national debt to $27 Trillion.

    Ryan's proposal would reduce deficit spending over 10 years to $6 Trillion. Is that enough?

    What is Obama's plan? I can't recall he has presented anything other than more government spending via Obamacare, and to continue entitlement spending as we have been.

  • louie Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Aug. 12, 2012 7:38 p.m.

    The biggest accomplishment for Ryan was his budget proposal. So what value does he bring to theticket?

  • shamrock Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 12, 2012 6:53 p.m.

    Call me crazy, but if Romney really wanted to distance himself from the Ryan Plan, he should have picked a different running mate. Mitt is a practiced flip-flopper, but even he can't both endorse the plan (which he's done) and not endorse the plan (which he's now trying to do).

  • shamrock Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 12, 2012 6:51 p.m.

    Call me crazy, but if Romney really wanted to distance himself from the Ryan Plan, maybe he should have picked a different running mate. Mitt's a practiced flip-flopper, but even he can't both endorse the plan and not endorse the plan.

  • Furry1993 Clearfield, UT
    Aug. 12, 2012 6:44 p.m.

    Mitt endorsed the (very extreme) Ryan budget proposals, both in comments of support and by picking Ryan as his running mate. Mitt's feet should be held to the fire, and Mitt should be required to run with ongoing support of Ryan's plan, or be recognized as the hypocrite he really is.