Health care law's tax hikes are coming: Who pays?

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  • killpack Sandy, UT
    Aug. 11, 2012 10:21 a.m.

    Wonder, the couple thousand men and women running the current federal government are corrupt, immoral, dishonest and self-serving. If you don't believe that, you need to watch the news more, whether or not you believe in the devil. The reason Obamacare is unpopular is simple: people do not trust the abortion that is our current federal government. You said above that Obamacare is 'not government healthcare.' That statement is vague, but regardless, Obamacare gives the federal government, a very small group of individuals, incredible say in what the 300 million rest of us Americans will do and pay with regards to healthcare. I wish with all of my heart that the will of the people will finally be heard and that Obamacare will be repealed.

  • Wonder Provo, UT
    Aug. 11, 2012 1:48 a.m.

    @ samhill -- Forces of darkness my eye! Just because someone disagrees with you on how to help those in need does not mean they are an agent of Satan. Your rhetoric is over the top.

  • samhill Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 10, 2012 7:59 p.m.

    "Health care law's tax hikes are coming: Who pays?"

    Simple answer, we ALL do....and far too much.

    Not only will it, like virtually all government administered programs, be a monumental example of bureaucratic inefficiency and ineffectiveness, it will be yet another drain on our individual freedom and autonomy.

    I positively hate the idea and hope we can still muster the courage and energy to fight and prevail against the forces of darkness that are shoving this, and many things like it, down our collective throats.

  • Joan Watson TWIN FALLS, ID
    Aug. 10, 2012 7:48 p.m.

    Excuse me, our private medical insurance just notified that we will be paying 64$'s a month more - due having to insure those with pre existing medical issues + insuring children till age 25. So please be not so hasty to praise this Obamacare. Does anyone not beleive that insurance rates and medical costs will not continue to increase? And what a laugh - in one part of that Obamaare thing - there is a note that those who cannot afford the medical insurance rates will be subsidized by the government! government = Tax payers and yes those who now pay for their own medical insurance who are on a set income, in the near future, will need government/tax payer assistance.

  • Wonder Provo, UT
    Aug. 10, 2012 7:01 p.m.

    Yeah, you're also "forced" to buy auto insurance if you have a car. You're forced to pay taxes that pay for roads, schools, etc. You're forced to buy a lot of things. Forcing you to buy insurance benefits the rest of us when we don't have to pay for your medical care when you unexpectedly get sick or hurt and you don't have insurance or cash in the bank to pay for it. This is part of the price of living in a civilized society.

  • lost in DC West Jordan, UT
    Aug. 10, 2012 6:21 p.m.

    where's the horrible government control?

    Being FORCED to buy something, and the only way out is to drop dead.

    And it isn't like before. Since the insurers cannot use cost control mesures they have used prevously, all our premiums go up.

    Forcing employers to provide insurance or pay a fine stifles employment, just what we DON'T need when BO has been running unemploynment over 8% for 42 straight months - longest since the depression.

    So we're forced to buy something we don't want and losing out on jobs we DO want. THAT is the horrible government control.

  • Wonder Provo, UT
    Aug. 10, 2012 5:19 p.m.

    I think many of you are confused about what Obamacare is. It's not government health care -- like where you go into a government run medical office and are treated by a government paid doctor. Or even a government run insurance system like Medicare. Many on the left wish that it was more like Medicare, but instead it's actually just your everyday, ordinary insurance companies selling you insurance, just like now. Except that now they won't be able to deny you coverage if you have pre-existing conditions. And now your kids can be covered until they are 26. And now they can only make a certain amount of profit and have to spend the rest on providing health care. And now they can't limit the amount of coverage you get over your life time. Sounds good to me. Where's the horrible government control over YOU?

  • freedomingood provo, Utah
    Aug. 10, 2012 9:00 a.m.

    Pennstateer, why don't you say you went to x country and looked around y hospital so I can look up some facts about it and make my own decision?

    Am I just supposed to take your word for it that you are a healthcare expert?

  • Badger55 Nibley, Ut
    Aug. 10, 2012 8:28 a.m.

    Obamacare hikes taxes for an estimated 3 million Americans who make under 120k per year, generating roughly 50% of the total revenue for the mandate. How is that not raising taxes on people earning under 250K, like Obama promised? Moving the deductible medical expenses from 7.5% to 10% of AGI. Also, capping FSA's to $2500. It appears those hit the lower income individuals as well.

  • PennStater USA, PA
    Aug. 10, 2012 8:20 a.m.

    I have lived in countries with socialized healthcare and I know I don't want it here in the US. It was not of good quality. I went inside hospitals (the best in the country) and wondered how people actually got better in them.

    We have wonderful healthcare here in the US. How it is exercised should be at the state level, not the federal level. I think people are relying too much on policy to help us. Lifestyle and culture change is what we need right now. If we didn't have the diet we have in the US and were more physically active we wouldn't have many of the problems we do.

    Any policy that should be enacted should be directed toward medicaid fraud.

  • lost in DC West Jordan, UT
    Aug. 10, 2012 5:36 a.m.

    you don't pay your taxes to the IRS, you pay them to the insurance companies.

    Please, "broccoli-tax Roberts", tell us how THAT makes sense.

    The article said BO was campaigning on the benefits of Obamacare? Where? I've been in a battleground state for weeks and have seen nothing BO has campaigned on, he has not touted ANY accomplishments, not matter how minor, ineffectual, or just plain socialist and wrong. All his ads have been scare tactics against Romney. I guess when you have such an abyssmal record, you run FROM it, not ON it.

  • A1994 Centerville, UT
    Aug. 9, 2012 11:16 p.m.

    "Who pays?"
    Trick question! Everyone pays! More money going to a huge and wasteful government. Less and less competition. Few doctors and longer waiting times. Rationed healthcare. And this is assuming the costs of the Health Care law don't go up at all. Has anyone ever seen the government run a program within its original budget?

  • Joan Watson TWIN FALLS, ID
    Aug. 9, 2012 9:38 p.m.

    Well, one supposes that all this is as logical and a clear as it can be! Unfortunately it is as Nancy P explained - it has to be passed (health Bill) in order to find out what is in it. Even with its passage - one can harly determine just what is in it! Why are government mandated things alwys become extremely complicated, clear as mud, and more costly in the long run?