Utah football notebook: 'Clean' first week of practice thrills Utes

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  • SoonerUte Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 6, 2012 8:30 a.m.

    gdog3finally wonders "Why do people care about Rivals and Scout all that much. The hype is like the propaganda that so called news stations put out."

    Recruit ranking is news filler, but so are the polls. I remember when the AP poll was "the top 20". They expanded to 25 to generate more "news".

    Fans love to see their team on a list, even if it at the bottom. Not to knock the Cougars, but ending up #25 in the AP only meant news for the local stations. Other than that, it meant nothing. Even finishing in the top 10 means nothing in the New BCS.

  • gdog3finally West Jordan, Utah
    Aug. 6, 2012 1:18 a.m.

    Why do people care about Rivals and Scout all that much. The hype is like the propaganda that so called news stations put out. BYU has a name brand and a following. Because of their affiliation with ESPN, they are going to be given an early nod. How the season plays out is what will determine success, and it's going to be on the field for the most part.

    Now if BYU starts out slowly, say 3-3 the first 6 games, they will run the table against the patsies in November and December, and sinish close to the top 25. It's just how it is.

    Still, I would much rather be Utah in the PAC 12, and hope for the best. I wouldn't be surprised if Utah went 10-2, 6-6, or somewhere in between.

    The rivalry isn't dead here on these posts, and I don't expect much more civility when it goes away in a few years (for a few years).

  • Jenny83 OGDEN, UT
    Aug. 6, 2012 12:33 a.m.

    Utes land best class in program history - Block U
    Feb 1, 2012 ... By all accounts, the 2012 recruiting class will go down as the best in ... Kyle Whittingham says it's the best class, at least on paper, he's ever signed. ... You have to look no further than their recruitment of offensive linemen.

  • Jenny83 OGDEN, UT
    Aug. 5, 2012 10:49 p.m.

    The 2012 recruiting class is the Utes best class they have ever had.....

  • pocyUte Pocatello, ID
    Aug. 5, 2012 10:44 p.m.


    My point is, star ratings don't always translate into success on the field. Utah has been very competitive over the past decade filling their roster with 2 and 3 star recruits. But to your point, in general, the more stars the more talented. Last season Utah had their best recruiting class ever, coming in 7th in average stars at 3.04, that was .04 stars below Washington.

    Their class this year is shaping up to be another great class. It's too bad they lost Barton to Stanford today, but I'm very excited about the commits they have to date.

    The fact is, the Utah staff has a great track record of finding and developing talent. With the PAC 12 affiliation the Utes are getting into the game with players who they wouldn't have before. They will win some recruiting battles and lose some, but the future is bright for the U.

  • Jenny83 OGDEN, UT
    Aug. 5, 2012 10:40 p.m.

    Black and Blue ... Utah is ranked 28th in recruiting for it's 2012 class and BYU is ranked at # 61 (Rivals) ......In the Preseason pole...the Utes are ranked #32 and BYU is ranked #37.

    Others receiving votes: Washington 64, Louisville 46, Georgia Tech 35, Cincinnati 32, Texas A&M 28, Baylor 23, Utah 22, Mississippi State 21, SOUFLA 12, NCSTATE 11, Louisiana Tech 10, Brigham Young 10, Virginia 9, Houston 7, Southern Miss 6, Rutgers 5, UCF 5, Tennessee 3, Missouri 3, FLAINTL 3, Northern Illinois 2, TEXASTECH 1

  • TheNun Granstville, UT
    Aug. 5, 2012 10:02 p.m.

    Black and Blue,

    It's interesting how the history of both Utah and BYU is lost/forgotten when establishing the big brother, little brother, scenario.

    So, here you go...Brigham Young himself established both schools, Utah in 1850 and BYU in 1875. So, for the past 137 years the school down south has been trying to catch up to its big brother on the hill.

    And, it's easy to understand how one from St. George may want to make disparaging remarks about the PAC-12, given the highly regarded conference Dixie "College" finds itself in.

  • sammyg Springville, UT
    Aug. 5, 2012 9:59 p.m.


    Oddly it's just convenient for Ute fans to go with star ratings when it's gives them an edge in any ratings discussion.

    I see you're trying to discount the system today because Utah gets the lower rated football talent.

    As you well know the really top notch schools get 4 and 5 star recruits and they just seem to consistently do very well with them.

    4-5 says everything and so does the 3 and 2 star talent in comparison to your peers in the conference.

  • pocyUte Pocatello, ID
    Aug. 5, 2012 8:22 p.m.

    Ah the beautiful sound of fall. My recruiting class is better than your, mines ranked higher than your. Classic. On the field is the only thing that matters. Who cares about recruiting ranking? It didn't help Bama against the Utes did it? And cougs, your February championships haven't helped you 7 of the past 10 years has it?

    Oddly enough August doesn't matter, it's who you sign and what you do with them.

  • R.A.W St George, Utah
    Aug. 5, 2012 7:30 p.m.

    Big Daddy Utah,

    Whats the matter? Does the truth really hurt that bad? I know Ute fans like to run off fumes and delusions of grandeur, leaning on the 2 lone years of real success in its entire history. But expect to be called out on inaccurate or untruthful statements. Oh and by the way, know who is ranked #48 right in front of Utah? Colorado.
    Also, all of Utah's commitments are 3* and below. And Utah fans continually remind us that the amount of stars and BCS offers next to an athlete is all that matters.

    Like I said, eventually the PAC-12 membership will make you relevant (Maybe). But that will require Utah being better than 4-5, while avoiding the two best teams in the conference.

  • Big Daddy Utah SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Aug. 5, 2012 6:18 p.m.

    Black and Blue, you have got to be kidding. Did you really just post the above comments.

    Go UTES

  • Black&Blue St George, Utah
    Aug. 5, 2012 6:01 p.m.


    Actually Utah is ranked #49 on rivals. BYu is ranked #43. And on Scout, BYU is ranked 46th and Utah 51st. Don't take it too hard, I'm sure your conference of Champions affiliation ought to pay off for you eventually, little brother. In the meantime, enjoy the Pac-12 Scraps.

  • JohnInSLC Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Aug. 5, 2012 4:11 p.m.

    Ah, Ducky---the byu "fan" that can't resist taking potshots at the Utes.

    The Pac-12 Network is picking up steam, ducky-boy. Pack your bags for an extended stay in Tulsa.


  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Aug. 5, 2012 3:16 p.m.

    "A shoulder injury that has been bothering the former Lone Peak High School star for a few years"

    Hmm.....seems I was pretty well castigated by utah "fans" when I stated this a few months ago. utah "fans" like fender simply couldn't handle it that I knew something about, and know, the kids in this area.

    As far as Chase is concerned it would appear it would be best for him to finally have that surgery and then 2 years of rest on the shoulder. It might make it so he actually has a chance to play qb at the college level but I still think he will eventually play defense.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Aug. 5, 2012 11:33 a.m.

    With NFL caliber D & O lines, an undefeated season, and BCS bowl is in plain sight.

  • Jenny83 OGDEN, UT
    Aug. 5, 2012 12:03 a.m.

    Sooner Ute........ The Utes are ranked 32nd in the nation on Rivals.

  • SoonerUte Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 4, 2012 11:26 p.m.

    Welcome, Xavier Shepherd!

    Utes have climed to #48 on Rivals, when a couple weeks ago they were at 70. Excellent!

  • pocyUte Pocatello, ID
    Aug. 4, 2012 11:20 p.m.

    I would like to have seen the Hansen play this year, but it's obviously more important for him to get healthy. 2 years is a long time to be nursing a sore shoulder.

    Fortunately with a healthy Wynn, a more seasoned Hayes, Wilson and Schultz, the QB situation is light years ahead of this time last year.

    Go Utes

  • sammyg Springville, UT
    Aug. 4, 2012 10:42 p.m.

    And the QB injury jinx continues at Utah.

    Jon, your second season is starting.