Utah Utes football: Beefed up offensive line has Kyle Whittingham beaming

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  • gdog3finally West Jordan, Utah
    Aug. 6, 2012 2:48 a.m.

    @ Dutchman

    What? Are you commenting on the right post? Dude I am a Ute fan and didn't suggest Utah was recruiting the wrong guys. I was commenting on Bronco and his strengths and weaknesses as I see it.

  • williary Kearns, UT
    Aug. 4, 2012 9:23 p.m.


    Go ask USC about Utah being competitive. Or Oregon a couple years ago when they won the Pac-10 title.

    It's so hilarious for Cougar fans to doubt Utah can even be competitive, when they have already been with with a bigger talent discrepancy.

    BYU fans are worried about Utah being competitive with top 5 programs, while they should really be worried about their team trying to be competitive with Utah. 54-10!

  • 17-14 Hurts Don't It? Springville, UT
    Aug. 4, 2012 6:14 p.m.


    That's exactly what I'm saying, thank you.

    You do realize you have a snowball's chance in Moab of doing anything against these teams. Having the privilege of playing in their conference is one thing, being competitive to the point of a South Division or conference championship is another.

    A gaggle of 2 star, 3 star recruits < 4 and 5 star recruits.

    Your recruiting mantra of being an elite team compared to the real 'elite' teams in your conference is laughable.

  • Joey K Sandy, UT
    Aug. 4, 2012 5:51 p.m.

    Being big is not enough, it depends more on where you carry your weight. Gone are the days of offensive linemen with saggy bellies. Dare I say it, the best olinemen today appear to be a "lithe" 300 pounds. Look at guys in the NFL like Joe Thomas and Jake Long. No one would call them fat.

    Doug Eliasa is one of the best in the country, so I believe that most of the 300 pounds on these guys is good weight in the form of muscle. As another poster pointed out, BYU linemen have been this size or bigger for 15 years, the difference is that their conditioning is continually questioned, and they definitely have the soggy midsection that most Ute linemen try to avoid.

  • williary Kearns, UT
    Aug. 4, 2012 4:49 p.m.


    "Ute top players < USC, Oregon, Stanford"

    Do you even realize you just listed 1)USC who will be a top 3 team when they come to SLC this year. 2)Oregon, who played for the title 2 years ago, and in BCS games the last 3 years I believe and 3)Stanford who has played in two straight BCS games.

    If you're saying Utah doesn't have the all-around talent of 3 of the best 6 programs of the last 5 years, you should seriously stop and think before you post something next time.

  • Ernest T. Bass Bountiful, UT
    Aug. 4, 2012 4:05 p.m.

    How come the article didn't say byu would be national champs? It's August. Time to declare national championhood.

  • Dutchman Murray, UT
    Aug. 4, 2012 4:02 p.m.


    Developing and putting guys in the NFL does not mean that Utah is doing things in the wrong way or recruiting misfits with no character as you seem to suggest. Quite the contrary. Utah's program under Whittingham has everything Bronco can only hope for, players with character, lots of wins, member of an elite conference and lots of NFL talent to boot.

    17-14 hurts don't it,

    BYU would trade places with Utah in a heart beat to get into the PAC 12 if it were possible. Well, it isn't so get over it. Come to think of it, with that 54-10 beat down that BYU took at the hands of Utah last year how do you think BYU would fare in the PAC 12? Probably best to stay where you are at.

  • Mount Olympus Salt Lake, UT
    Aug. 4, 2012 3:50 p.m.

    Re: 17-14 Hurts Don't It?

    The next level I was talking about is the NFL.

    BYU fans probably forget about the NFL, since it has been so long since they have had a player drafter.

    Do you realize that the team from Provo lost to a team by 44 points that lost to Colorado?

  • 17-14 Hurts Don't It? Springville, UT
    Aug. 4, 2012 2:39 p.m.

    Oh, the annual fall camp chest pounding and yammer...


    "It's great to be a member of an elite conference and get the top players both in state and out of state to come and join the Utes."

    Ute top players < USC, Oregon, Stanford and a few others in the conference but what you're really hoping for is it enough to beat BYU in the future.

    Never mind the real problem of always being something other than runner-up in the South Division or 3-way tied for 6th thru 8th place in a 12 team conference.

    Mount Olympus

    "They (BYU) haven't been excelling at the next level like the Utes have lately."

    And what level would the Utes be at? Your last PAC game was Colorado, that's certainly a lasting impression for a 'next level' of play when so much was on the line against the worst team in the conference. 4-5 in your conference is equal to what level?

    Some things never change, even though the fans say it has. It will always be about comparing the Utes to BYU.

  • gdog3finally West Jordan, Utah
    Aug. 4, 2012 1:00 p.m.

    I don't think Bronco cares that much about putting people into the NFL. BYU wants to do things a certain way, and Bronco is the right guy to do it.

    If BYU loses recruits because they are providing less talent for the NFL pool, then Bronco accepts that (at least I think he does). What Bronco will do is recruit guys who want to be at BYU and win (if he can) BYU's way.

    This might sound off to many, but Bronco in a way reminds me of both Jerry Sloan and Rick Majerus. No, Bronco IS NOT a foul mouthed high temper guy, but it's his way or the highway. Bronco has a system and philosophy that doesn't waver. It can be a strength and weakness. Like Sloan, he is not good at adjustments. I think both would rather lose their way, than win someone else's way.

    Now Majerus was a mastermind and making adjustments. That said, Rick often didn't recruit the best talent. He wanted 'yes sir' types who could accept and carryout the Ute system.

    I have a hard time with Bronco, but he is the right guy for BYU.

  • Dutchman Murray, UT
    Aug. 4, 2012 10:32 a.m.

    And according to an article on the CougarBlue website Bronco is still looking to get his first recruit selected in an NFL draft while Utah develops and puts players in the NFL every year. It's great to be a member of an elite conference and get the top players both in state and out of state to come and join the Utes. Proud to be a Utah and PAC 12 fan!!

    Aug. 4, 2012 9:36 a.m.

    Let's hope some of this current crop of players can keep up the high standards of previous offensive lines at Utah. Should be at least a couple of pro prospects in this group.

    It is great to see the U finally have some real depth on the line, which is needed when you play PAC 12 teams.

  • indycrimson Franklin, IN
    Aug. 4, 2012 7:25 a.m.

    I just hope our O-line is good enough to leave the sideline in that 3 point stance like the Coogies do! That is a sure sign that you have talent...

    Bronco is a genius...sideline 3 point stance...genius!


  • gdog3finally West Jordan, Utah
    Aug. 4, 2012 4:54 a.m.

    Funny how the Utes offensive line article comes out the same day as one for BYU. Only the Ute article speaks about O lineman over 300 pounds, and the BYU article is about their lineman being under 300 pounds. Both have their merit, it's just funny and ironic.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Aug. 3, 2012 11:35 p.m.

    Those are some BIG boys! Good to see that the talent is improving. We need it if we plan to be competitive in the PAC-12.

    @Elk: "I don't get it...to be "like" a PAC 12 team.

    We don't expect you too. You'll "get it" when and if start playing a "real" schedule.

  • Elk Hair Caddis Sandy, UT
    Aug. 3, 2012 10:22 p.m.

    -Kyle Whittingham points to the position when noting that the Utes are looking like a Pac-12 team size-wise.-

    I don't get it. This same comment is comming from coaches, players, and Hill. Like its an accomplishment to be "like" a PAC 12 team.

    Utah fans deserve better than a repeat of last year. They were "like a PAC 12 team" last year. They won 4 games in the PAC 12. I hope Utah is a TOP PAC 12 team this year but concerned that coaches and players comments do not reflect that.

    Go Cougars

  • Mount Olympus Salt Lake, UT
    Aug. 3, 2012 10:08 p.m.

    Re: Tom in CA

    Except for the Ute O-lineman actually make it in the NFL.

    We heard for years how good Matt Reynolds was, but he wasn't even drafted.

    Utes in the NFL now:

    Jordan Gross, Zane Beatles, Tony Bergstrom, Caleb Schlauderaff, Zane Taylor.

    BYU's O-line is usually large, but that is it. They haven't been excelling at the next level like the Utes have lately.

  • 54-10 Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 3, 2012 10:01 p.m.

    Tom In CA

    The difference between the Utah linemen and the BYU is that the extra weight is on their arms and legs in the form of muscle rather than their stomachs in the form of fat. That's why Bronco finally discovered a little off season conditioning for his guys. He also hopes it will keep them in better mental shape so they won't quit during games.

  • Tom in CA Vallejo, CA
    Aug. 3, 2012 9:51 p.m.

    They're nearly the size the Cougar O-line has been for decades.

  • PAC12Fan South Jordan, UT
    Aug. 3, 2012 9:30 p.m.

    Ummmmm! Beefy.

    Look forward to our lineman making some big holes for the Wolfman and giving Jordan some time to make some plays.