The identity of our bills impacts views on purpose and intent

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  • Truthseeker SLO, CA
    July 27, 2012 4:06 p.m.

    Great article.

    At a minimum, American voters should know who wrote and how the legislation their elected representatives are voting on was crafted. We should also know who is funding the campaign ads and who is contributing to the campaigns. (obviously within reason).

    Why do Republicans continue to filibuster and oppose the Disclose Act?

    Do we want money to be the determining factor in who has the power in our society?

    We might as well go back to the early days of the Constitution--where only wealthy landholders had the right to vote.

  • Furry1993 Clearfield, UT
    July 27, 2012 7:18 a.m.

    In Utah, bills are not debated and decided "in the light of day." Their status, contents and outcomes are decided in the Republican Party quorums (both House and Senate), and then rubber-stamped in committee meetings and on the floor of the legislature. The light of day, in reality, never touches them. That's a big problem that comes from a de facto one party system like we have in Utah (and that's why the party quorums need to stop being behind closed doors except for an extremely limited number of issues). Sad.

  • Steve Cottrell Centerville, UT
    July 26, 2012 9:51 p.m.

    Surely it must be time for a new set of legislators.

  • EJM Herriman, UT
    July 26, 2012 12:16 p.m.

    To JThompson: then propose it in public. With ALEC in town have them put out there at the end of the conference the ideas/plans/proposals that will come out of the week. Invite the 4th Estate in to cover the event. In fact I would call out not only ALEC but also groups like ACORN as well. Like one other previous poster said "When you turn on the lights they scatter like cockroaches".
    With that said, even though I don't agree with people like Mr. Wimmer at least he puts himself,out there. Better to have a civil disagreement than to work in the shadows.

  • J Thompson SPRINGVILLE, UT
    July 26, 2012 9:23 a.m.

    The writer assumes that the origin of the bill is more important than the text in the bill.

    If a bill is a good bill, it has text that tells us why it is a good bill. That is what counts. Whether a king or a pauper suggested that bill should make no difference to those who vote on the bill. They should be focused on what that bill would do, not on the person or persons who "influenced" someone in the legislature to write the bill.

    Any legislator who does not know what is in a bill should not vote on the bill. Our legislature does not need to use the "Pelosi rule" that it needs to pass a bill before knowing what's in the bill.

    Attacking the messenger is a popular sport, but it has no use except to make those who do it proud of their "chest pounding".

    A good bill is a good bill - regardless of who proposes it.

  • one old man Ogden, UT
    July 26, 2012 9:01 a.m.

    Excellent comments.

    Unfortunately, in Utah, they fall on deaf ears and blind eyes.

    For some mysterious reason, many people in this state seem bent upon bringing about their own destruction.

    I simply don't understand it.

  • Blue Salt Lake City, UT
    July 26, 2012 6:48 a.m.

    Excellent analysis, Mr. Kanter. Thank you.

    ALEC is a blight on democracy.

    Doubt me? Then find out why these policy-making meetings between corporate lobbyists and legislators don't permit the public or reporters to attend.

    If the light of public scrutiny were ever shown on these guys, they'd scatter like cockroaches.