College football: San Diego glad to have BYU back in bowl game

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  • Y Grad / Y Dad Richland, WA
    July 30, 2012 8:12 a.m.

    Spokane Ute

    Reasonably fair comment. But even if you ARE in a BCS conference, REAL BCS bowls are few and far between. Uncommitted bowl games, ie bowls that can make a commitment to a single team, are few and far between. I'm not unhappy with this arrangement. If we finish 11-1, that could change, but hard to be too upset if we finish 11-1.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    July 27, 2012 10:03 p.m.

    More utah "fan" stupidity

    1st it was BYU can't schedule anyone good, but then BYU went and scheduled Texas, Notre Dame, Boise St, Georgia Tech, Nebraska, West Virginia, Houston, Wisconsin,

    In otherwords utah "fans" were wrong.

    Then it was "BYU can't schedule anyone good in November but then they got Notre Dame in November, and Wisconsin in November, Boise will sometimes be in November.

    Now it's "BYU can't get good bowl games".

    Well utah "fan" predictions have not had a very good track record of turning out the way they wish they would. I won't worry about this "prediction" either.

  • Duckhunted highland, utah
    July 27, 2012 5:56 p.m.

    lets be honest BYU lose money going to san diego $500,00 is a very small pay out..1 loss and thats your bowl game...Utah can lose a game and still play for the NC!! BYU needs to beg the big 10!!!

  • RepresentBlue West Jordan, UT
    July 27, 2012 2:00 p.m.

    Okay, so the Poinsettia is not the most attractive bowl game, but it is far from the worst and this is only year 2 of independence. I think Holmoe has done an incredible job of lining up opponents so far, including bowl games. Is there room for improvement? Definitely! But ask yourself, would their bowl situation be any better if they were still in the MWC where if you go 12-0 you are in a BCS bowl, but if you are 11-1 you are in the Vegas Bowl. Personally, I prefer the Poinsettia Bowl over the Vegas Bowl as San Diego is a much more attractive destination than Lost Wages, and it is the worst they could possibly do as long as they are bowl eligible, while in the MWC they could get an even lesser bowl if they have a 6-6 or 7-5 record.

  • JohnInSLC Cottonwood Heights, UT
    July 27, 2012 12:28 p.m.

    Kim and Joe,

    Too much wishful thinking.

    Although now independent, BYU still has a LONG way to go to sign agreements with several bowls and then wait to see who wants them the most, a la Notre Dame. Until then (if ever), it'll be a continual series of Helicopter/New Mexico/Poinsettia/Irrelevant Bowls if they don't go undefeated over a really strong schedule.

    Good luck with that.

    July 26, 2012 8:50 p.m.

    Okay - Lets all be real here. Its true that BYU is playing in minor bowls for a few years. That is the price of admission to a successful Indy run. In a few years will this still be the case. No.

    There will be bigger bowls and bigger pay offs. No worry.

    Oh and as for splits if BYU ever does make it to a big game the dollar value will be unmatched. Time will tell.

  • Kim Cedar Park, Texas
    July 26, 2012 8:41 p.m.

    Finding a good bowl game to land in was one of the most difficult aspects of going independent. It will take some time, but as the program continues to get more exposure, the prospects should improve. Everyone knew going independent was going to be difficult the first few years, but over the long run it will prove to be a wise choice. Already we see the schedule improving.

  • fibonacci2112 Langley, VA
    July 26, 2012 8:26 p.m.

    What's so moronic about all of these Ute posts is that BYU and Utah have the same probability of going to a BCS game this year - 0%. At least the BYU fans are realistic about this fact. Even if the Utes finish second in the PAC South as you are predicted, that still counts you out of a BCS bowl game. If you're not in a BCS bowl game, then the next best thing is San Diego in December.

  • Cowboy Dude SAINT GEORGE, UT
    July 26, 2012 6:56 p.m.

    Ugh! This comment thread is the worst. I suggest AZute and 17-14 both give it a rest. We only have a few more weeks to go til we are on the field.

  • 17-14 Hurts Don't It? Springville, UT
    July 26, 2012 4:58 p.m.


    17-14, in your precious RES, hands down, Colorado's easiest win last season.

    "Need a tissue?"


  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    July 26, 2012 12:51 p.m.

    "With the outside chance of qualifying for a BCS game...."

    Funniest thing I've read in a while....Enjoy the "Big-Time" in San Diego, byu fans....LOL.

    54-10 on byu's homefield....Hands-down, UTAH's easiest win last year.

  • Back Overland Park, KS
    July 26, 2012 12:23 p.m.

    I decide to read a nice article about the Cougars, only to discover a bunch of Ute fans that OD'd on hate pills this morning. I barely have enough time to follow my team, let alone venture into the blog world of the Utes (but don't worry, they will track you down).

    BTW, San Diego is a great place to visit at that time of the year. With the outside chance of qualifying for a BCS game, I'll do my best to catch the game. I'm looking forward to a fun year!

  • Mildred in Fillmore Salt Lake City, UT
    July 26, 2012 11:51 a.m.

    We made the Holiday Bowl into what it is today. Now we'll increase the prestige of this bowl game.

  • romorg PROVO, UT
    July 26, 2012 8:44 a.m.

    Did some digging and will correct my previous post.

    Last years bowl revenues for the PAC-12 came to 30,685,500 not over 40 mil as I estimated. Apparently the second BCS game makes substantially less than the first. Expenses were estimated at 10 mil, so that leaves 20.6 mil net for the coffers of the PAC-12. Less than 2 mil per team, bowl game or not...but still far greater than the 500k BYU will get for the Poinsettia. Also, if you based BYU's expenses on what the PAC-12 had for the Holiday Bowl, BYU will lose money participating in the Poinsettia Bowl.

    I'm glad they don't have to share that loss with anybody.

  • Ernest T. Bass Bountiful, UT
    July 26, 2012 8:32 a.m.

    San Diego is America's finest city. Ranking just ahead of Provo.

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    July 26, 2012 7:48 a.m.

    @ Real Bass

    Yeah, BYU fans never troll Utah articles and take shots at the Utes. Sorry but 54-10 certainly defines little Bro and Big Bro.

    As far as the article goes, it's tough on BYU to be locked into the Poinsettia bowl. Whether they go 11-1 or 8-4, they end up at the same place. Not to mention the lowest payout of any bowl (3 bowls pay out $500K). If you are not in a BCS conference, the bowl slots are far and few between; and not divided out fairly. IMO

  • Real Bass Idaho Falls, ID
    July 26, 2012 7:27 a.m.

    Well isn't it interesting to see so many hill children taking shots here. We don't play anymore, so stop the obsession already, lil bro.

  • PAC12Fan South Jordan, UT
    July 26, 2012 6:26 a.m.

    This is a spin on a no winsituation. BYU should be looking for a better opportunity.

    Hooray, we won 6 games and are going to the Poinsettia Bowl!

    Hooray we won 11 games and we are going to the Poinsettia Bowl?

    Just here to have fun? I guess that is right.

  • romorg PROVO, UT
    July 26, 2012 4:41 a.m.


    What you neglected to figure in your logic of PAC-12 revenue sharing is that there may be 7 teams from the PAC-12 going to bowl games and pulling in money. Last year they put two teams in BCS bowls. I don't know how they split the money, but, if they do split it evenly amongst all 12 teams (as you suggested), before expenses, then you probably need to figure more than 40 million for last year, not 7.2 mil. So, that would be somewhere between 3 and 4 million per school...even if they didn't go to a bowl.

    In the future, the Rose Bowl is set to pay 80 mil. So, when the Rose is not one of the semifinal games the PAC-12 will make 40 mil just from that game.

    As for the Poinsettia, I'm thinking a game against one of the MWC teams might not be the draw that they (SD Bowl people) think it will be. Personally, I think it's pretty lame. That will be about the ninth best game on BYU's schedule.

  • eastcoastcoug Danbury, CT
    July 25, 2012 11:45 p.m.

    Wow...BYU playing Wyoming for $500k two weeks before the BCS series. I can't think of anything more exciting. We had better matchups and payouts 30 years ago. I just read Pres. Kimball's vision of BYU's second century and wanting us to raise the bar. The Athletic dept. needs to set their sights soooooooooooo much higher. We just seem to be satisfied with mediocrity.

  • Just Wondering... Gilbert, AZ
    July 25, 2012 10:56 p.m.

    ...why Utah fans are taking shots at the poinsettia? Wasn't this the bowl that provided year over year cupcakes to the Utes to help them build their inglorious bowl winning streak?

  • CG Orem, UT
    July 25, 2012 10:48 p.m.


    Typical small-minded "bcs"er - always obsessed with $$$, but absolutely clueless about the real purpose for going to a bowl - to have fun!

  • CougFaninTX Frisco, TX
    July 25, 2012 9:59 p.m.

    Duckhunted - you're about right on the payout, but what you forget is that there is no revenue sharing as an independent. BYU keeps it all. $600,000 as an independent is about the same as going to a $7,200,000 bowl as a member of a 12 team conference after the revenue sharing arrangements.

    The rumor is that the Holiday Bowl is looking to move up in the Big12 or find another partner. Getting the 5th place team in a 10 team Big12 is not the same as getting the 5th place team in the old 12 team Big12. If the Holiday Bowl can't move up to the 3rd or 4th place team in the Big12, BYU could have a shot at moving into the Holiday Bowl in 2014 or 15.

  • Duckhunted highland, utah
    July 25, 2012 9:24 p.m.

    What an awesome bowl game!! The second place MWC team vs the WAC champion!!! Independence rocks...Umm didn't BYU make more money last year in their bowl game!! Didn't they make $600,000 last year??

  • BlueCoug Orem, UT
    July 25, 2012 7:28 p.m.

    San Diego is a fun place to visit for the holidays.

    Looking forward to the site of the Miracle Bowl, Steve Young's game winning touchdown CATCH, and BYU's first major college football National Championship!