BYU grad Mike Leach hasn't thought much about 'other' Cougars

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  • Cougar Claws Lindon, UT
    July 26, 2012 4:47 p.m.

    Re: Utah Hawaii Alum

    "Bronco is the greatest coach of all time."

    Thank you for finally acknowledging reality.

    Seriously though, did I just say that? Bronco is a solid, not necessarily great coach and the extreme comments are getting less and less funny.

  • SoCalChris Riverside, CA
    July 26, 2012 12:43 p.m.

    Mike is a great guy and a great coach. Wish I didn't have to root against him in his very first game at WSU.

    I expect a tough game.

  • Utah-Hawaii Alum Dallas, TX
    July 26, 2012 2:52 a.m.

    @ Cougar Claws,

    Bronco is misunderstood. After next year his contract is up at BYu. Bill Belichick, Tom Coughlin, Les Miles and Nick Saban are all scared to death because THEY KNOW how great Bronco is. They don't wanna lose their job. Bronco is the greatest coach of all time.

  • Utah-Hawaii Alum Dallas, TX
    July 26, 2012 2:41 a.m.

    What is always beyond comical is hearing BYu players prognosticate their greatness.............then reality sets in when the season starts. The bottom line is that BYu has very little speed or talent.

  • Cougar Claws Lindon, UT
    July 25, 2012 11:26 p.m.

    Re: teleste

    I think Bronco Mendenhall is a pretty misunderstood coach. He doesn't do things perfectly, and like I said before he has said some insensitive things about the fans, but he has also given props to the fans for their support. In terms of coaching the way coaching needs to be done at BYU (recruiting players who will live the honor code for the most part, etc). Bronco has done a pretty good job.

    Did you just compare Washington State to FLORIDA STATE? Sorry, but that's like comparing Indiana to Michigan. Don't get me wrong WSU is a good team but people are talking like they are going to be the Oklahoma Sooners of the north or something. Texas Tech had a really good offense but how much noise did they really make in the Big 12?

    So Bronco doesn't prepare for big games? There might be a little premise for that argument, but BYU beat Washington in the season opener in 2010 with basically all freshman, how is this game any bigger than that one? Bronco beat the aforementioned Sooners in the season opener. Sometimes BYU can beat big teams, sometimes not like everybody.

  • Aggielove Cache county, USA
    July 25, 2012 7:41 p.m.

    Wsu will beat the blue out of the cougars. Promise you that.
    In fact, he will do better than .500 in the pac12

  • teleste Austin, TX
    July 25, 2012 7:09 p.m.

    @Cougar Claws

    Bronco Mendenhall insults his own fans... (Monson: Mendenhall owes BYU fans an apology, SL Trib, October 6, 2009)

    And doesn't believe preparing any differently for big games. Remember when FSU stomped the Y in Provo. Mendenhall simply said, "I didn't prepare our team for that caliber of opponent.." (So, uh, coach...what or who were you preparing for?)

    This is why BYU loses the big games.

    I'd take Mike Leach over Bronco every. day. of. the. week.

  • Cougar Claws Lindon, UT
    July 25, 2012 6:11 p.m.

    Mike Leach is a loose cannon. There are a number of things going into the game that fall in BYU's favor but one of them which is glaringly in BYU's favor is coaching. Coach Mendenhall might not be Mr. warm and fuzzy but he stays grounded and focused. I can see Mike Leach letting emotion get the best of him. He comes across to me as the Rex Ryan of college football.

    Utah Hawaii Alum:

    The more I read your posts the less and less they seem to have any logical direction or make any sense. Nothing against you personally, I just fail to see what you are trying to prove with what you say.

  • JJL Eugene, OR
    July 25, 2012 6:05 p.m.

    WAZZU 45, BYU 13

  • Jake2010 bountiful, ut
    July 25, 2012 5:50 p.m.

    Can't wait to be the first to serve crow pie to all the trolls on August 31st... I am ever so hopeful that UNCO also provides the season best upset the first night of the season. More likely to snow in July than that happening though... So I will keep the dream and the hopes alive....

  • Two For Flinching Salt Lake City, UT
    July 25, 2012 5:20 p.m.


    You know BYU plays Weber St. in week 2, right?

  • Utah-Hawaii Alum Dallas, TX
    July 25, 2012 3:20 p.m.

    NMSU, UI, ISU, SJSU are such great programs. Heck, Montana State would have beat BYu last year easily. At least they never quit, like some frail team at LES. BYu is a Ute cupcake game.........that is why they are gone!

  • DevilishUte Tempe, AZ
    July 25, 2012 2:59 p.m.

    "One thing we know for sure, this is a great football game to kick off the season. I don't understand why so many teams choose to play cupcakes (i.e. Northern Colorado) on Week 1."

    Is WSU a formidable opponent or a cupcake? When you talk about Utah playing WSU it is a cupcake, but when BYU is playing WSU it is a "great game."

    Which is it, monsieur?

  • Utah-Hawaii Alum Dallas, TX
    July 25, 2012 2:52 p.m.

    Wazzu will beat the tar out of BYu.

  • DevilishUte Tempe, AZ
    July 25, 2012 2:34 p.m.

    "One thing we know for sure, this is a great football game to kick off the season. I don't understand why so many teams choose to play cupcakes (i.e. Northern Colorado) on Week 1."

    Is WSU a cupcake or formidable opponent? Which is it? When you talk about Utah playing WSU they're a cupcake team, but when they're playing BYU it is a difficult team.

    Seems like you're changing your story more often than John Kerry.

  • factcheck Salt Lake City, UT
    July 25, 2012 1:31 p.m.

    RE: teleste 2000 TT went 7-6, with 4 wins to start the season. Huge wins over New Mexico, Utah St, North Texas, Louisiana-Lafayete (1-10). All loosing records. Their 3 conference wins over Baylor, Kansas and OSU were also huge. Those teams went a combined 9-25 (3-21 in the Big 12). I do think WSU will hit the ground running, but the only win they will get in Utah is at RES.

  • teleste Austin, TX
    July 25, 2012 11:51 a.m.


    Leach was 7-6 his first year at Tech. Your numbers are wrong.

    Unless WSU lays an egg...they will destroy BYU. I saw what Utah did in Provo last year...and Utah doesn't run the Air Raid. WSU Cougars will win big.

  • Whoa Nellie American Fork, UT
    July 25, 2012 10:58 a.m.

    My money is on the Cougars.

    Mike Leach would be a blast to have as a hunting buddy.

    How is it possible to whoop another team? Must be something they do at RES where people start whooping and hollering at each other then think a team can be defeated by whooping (shouting) at them. I would prefer that the teams I cheer for would just whup their opponents. Shouting gets us nowhere.

  • CougFaninTX Frisco, TX
    July 25, 2012 10:10 a.m.

    One thing we know for sure, this is a great football game to kick off the season. I don't understand why so many teams choose to play cupcakes (i.e. Northern Colorado) on Week 1.

    I think with the new playoff, you will see more and more teams choosing to strengthen their non-conference games with fewer games against FCS teams and cupcakes. This will be good for BYU.

    (And please don't give me the line about BYU's cupcakes in November. Those games were put together on short notice, and if BYU could have put better teams on the schedule, they would have. And they will play better teams in 2013, as has been announced.)

  • sanpaco Sandy, UT
    July 25, 2012 9:16 a.m.

    According to the article, Tuel doesn't sound too much different from Riley. I'm not saying that they aren't different but, they are both Davey O'Brien award watchlisters, they've both broken their collar bones, Riley only threw for 1717 yds in 2011 compared to Tuel's 2700 in 2010, but Riley had 19 TDs compared to Tuel's 18. Seems like the main difference between them is Tuel is a passer and Riley is more broad in moving the ball. Don't get me wrong, Tuel sounds like an great QB to have especially with Washington's set of WR's, I'm just saying I think Riley and BYU's offense will match up well. It's going to be a fun game!

  • SportsChemistry ENGLEWOOD, CO
    July 25, 2012 9:15 a.m.

    @Utah-Hawaii Alum,

    While I respect Mike Leach immensely, I think saying he “whooped Big 12 teams” is a stretch. He went 3-8 his first year with wins against Oklahoma St, Kansas and Baylor (none of which had more than 4 wins.) I also wouldn’t call BYUs secondary “way too slow” when Wazzu’s best receiver, Marquess Wilson, runs a blistering 4.67 40. It will be a close game, but BYU should pull out a win.

  • Utah-Hawaii Alum Dallas, TX
    July 25, 2012 8:19 a.m.

    @ Bomb,

    A true "trap game" would be Utah @ USU, where Utah will be a 14+ point favorite without question. This game really worries me because Utah plays BYu the next week..........If Utah doesn't "show-up," Utah State will shock Utah and win. That is a trap game! Wazzu will pound BYu. Mike Leach had far less talent the first year at TTech, whooped Big 12 teams and he knows his stuff. The odds makers know that. Wazzu may be favored @ BYu?????? I know I'm taking Wazzu for SURE! BYu's defense is way too slow and very untalented.......other than Kyle Van Noy, who I really respect...........but he has a very tender shoulder after his recent surgery.

  • Utah-Hawaii Alum Dallas, TX
    July 25, 2012 7:03 a.m.

    @ Bomb,

    It isn't a trap game. Wazzu will most likely be giving points to BYu. Wazzu will torch BYu's lousy secondary and have serious speed on D.

  • Striker Omaha, NE
    July 25, 2012 6:15 a.m.

    Historically, BYU does incredibly well with a senior QB at the helm. Hall defeated #3 Oklahoma to start the season last time there was a senior QB. That team had the defending Heisman winner and that team played for the championship the year before. (BYU also defeated Utah) BYU held that team to 13 points.

    WSU is bringing back their QB who has recovered from injury, installing a new offense, and hasn't found their identity yet. They play on the road in their first game in a stadium bigger than most PAC teams. BYU's D has a lot of experience and talent.

    BYU, at home, vs a team not used to winning on the road, with a senior QB, and lots and lots of returning talent, should be a win. WSU hasn't won on the road vs. a non-conference foe since 2005 vs. Nevada. Still, this will be a great matchup! Let's start the season already.

  • Striker Omaha, NE
    July 25, 2012 5:34 a.m.

    Amen wazzucoug. What better way to start a season??!!

  • wazzucoug seattle , WA
    July 24, 2012 11:28 p.m.

    Leach has already said this team is more talented than his first Tech team and they were not a throwing offense when he arrived, WSU is. Tuel is the goods. He tossed for nearly 3000 yards two years ago and was sacked 51 times. Last season WSU finished 9th in pass yards per game with a Senior back up that was not a PAC 12 talent as were their coaches. Marquese Wilson along with Woods from SC are the pre-season first team all-americans by every rag in existence. Paul Wulff could not coach, but the guy could flat out recruit. Their speed and size at WR is shocking. Leach plays up to 10 WR a game and of the 1st 10 all but 2 will be shorter than 6 2. This could be a very dangerous FB team as Leach's offense is so simple to learn it was installed in 4 days. The previous staff was still putting in their ridiculous offense after nearly 4 years.

    This is going to be a heck of a football game.

  • Guam_Bomb BARRIGADA, GU
    July 24, 2012 10:18 p.m.

    Can anyone say "TRAP GAME!" BYU had better be ready. Leach turned a loser around his first year at TT and there's no reason to believe he won't to the same at WSU.