Utah high schools change how they accept gifts, donations

Investigations spur districts to spell out policies on donations

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  • Lifelong Republican Orem, UT
    July 7, 2012 9:18 p.m.


    How is your daughter doing on the sports team at her charter school? I laughed out loud when I read that.

    If you want to see a place where you have to be "connected, donate or raise piles of money, or put in enough volunteer hours", go down to your local charter.

    That post was hilarious.

  • justamacguy Manti, UT
    July 7, 2012 5:55 p.m.

    For those who think this is hurting the schools, you need to think this through again. This is influence buying. While in some cases it may benefit the schools without string, the fact is it will eventually be use to purchased favors or for special treatment. You scream bloody murder when politicians do it. This is no different. If I gave a few hundred thousand dollars to the head of DOT and then got the multi-million dollar highway contract I would think you would be concerned. This is know different. You are letting those with money by influence over your school children. Not only should the complaints levied here be investigated, it should go further. I know schools that bid out the yearbook pictures to photographers based on what the photographer will kick back to the school. A photographer can get the winning bid without being the lowest bidder by kicking back several dollars of his photo package as a "donation" to the school. If that happened on other state agency bids people would go to jail. Education is important to Utah, but example is it to students if it is not operating ethically.

  • Demisana South Jordan, UT
    July 7, 2012 5:55 p.m.

    I persuaded my daughter to attend her brother's small charter school, partly because our local huge high school has a reputation for this kind of stuff. I was told by several neighbors - if you aren't connected, donate or raise piles of money, or put in enough volunteer hours - don't expect your kid to have an equal shot at getting into the school play or on a sports team etc. Talent, effort and dedication by the student won't be enough to get him/her in.

  • tbkwia Cottonwood Heights, UT
    July 7, 2012 2:57 p.m.

    Contention will never cease because of the envy and blaming that goes on all the way around. Each individual feels the right to defend their position. That is a right. When it becomes fighting, infighting, and the protection of ones jobs or liability issues, at the expense of the correct resolve, that is when the ones who need the right decision made, loose. Over and over again, civil discourse gives way to cognitive dissonance and everyone seems to need to justify THEIR decisions than to discover the right decision. One day, hopefully. persons will do what is best for everyone instead of themselves.

  • Orem Parent Orem, UT
    July 7, 2012 10:13 a.m.

    Amen Faifeau. Couldn't have said it better.

  • FaifeauSam Lehi, UT
    July 7, 2012 9:11 a.m.

    The old adage of "Closing the barn door after the horse is out" can certainly apply here when policies are created after a major problem is discovered. I'm going to "beat a dead horse," but it seems to me that Coach Louis Wong was disciplined because he followed his heart, his head, and his experience from his leaders at the school, district and state level. His eye was blackened and his desire to serve with all his heart, attitude and determination to make boys into men, not only on the athletic field but in life through his hard work and determination to provide for them facilities that others were jealous of. Will the day ever come when the state, the school district and the community apologize to Coach Wong for their action against him and offer him their thanks for ALL that he did to make a school and a program one of the best in the state? This apology needs to be given as much space in the press as the criticism has been given and not just in the comments board. Thank you, Coach Wong, for a job well done but too little appreciated!

  • Utah Teacher Orem, UT
    July 7, 2012 8:16 a.m.

    So basically what the districts are doing is going to make almost EVERY donor stop giving to the schools. Just what we don't need to happen. I can already hear the principal at our first faculty meeting of the year, "I'm sorry we had to increase your class sizes from 35 kids to 40 kids but we have to adjust our budgets due to the fact that our donors were turned away by our new rules."

    No, I'm not joking.

    They won't raise taxes, just increase our class sizes and cut what little benefits we have left.

  • Midwest Mom Soldiers Grove, WI
    July 7, 2012 7:23 a.m.

    Money always comes with strings attached. This is why education needs to be fully funded and people at the top need to pay their fair share of taxes. It is embarrassing to see how these schools have been kowtowing to monied citizens. By allowing donors to act as assistant coaches, it becomes a "pay-to-play" prerequisite. What district will hire a coach they must pay if there is a sugar Daddy willing to give them money for the privilege of serving in the position? And if that Dad also happens to have a child in the program, that just makes things cozy. The problem with the imbalance of wealth in this country is that people with money want to have it all their way. It is a cancer on our society from the Citizens United fallout on down to the school level. Think tanks and other non profits work to influence power and make our country over in the image of what they want to see. That's real class warfare. The pride cycle is alive and well in America.

  • ManInTheMiddle SANDY, UT
    July 7, 2012 5:26 a.m.

    Biting the hand that feeds you. Didn't these administrators learn anything in high school?

  • MyChildrensKeeper Taylorsville, UT
    July 7, 2012 5:05 a.m.

    Apparently the laws on public education has removed many of the restrictions and laws on our public schools and how they are funded. If the law is still in place it is illegal for public schools k1-k12 seek or be funded by philanthropist and business and coke/candy/water vending machines.

    Colleges and higher education were not consider public education therefore they can enjoy the funds from philanthropist, business, and coke/candy/water vending machines.

    However, our legislators and federal government has expanded public education with bribery to include higher education as part of the public education system so it can be funded by the taxes of citizens registered with the IRS, SSA, and Utah State tax commission and paying taxes.

    But under state constitutions and law, if that is the case then Higher education can no longer receive influential bribes from philanthropist, business, or vending machines. These funds from unknown sources are too influential with education curriculum and our schools and our teachers.

    What this decision does tell me is that these laws are still in place and public schools are taking bribery and cash cow funds that are breaking the law ans subjecting education to wrongful influence.