No escaping health care for Romney

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  • pacificblue55 SANDY, UT
    July 4, 2012 10:08 a.m.

    Republicans will regret calling the Affordable Care Act the OBAMACARE because it is here to stay and will become a bitter reminder to them that they lost badly.

  • peter Alpine, UT
    July 1, 2012 3:19 p.m.

    Worf hit it right on the head--national health care is another intentional, premeditated step undertaken by progressives to lead this nation toward communism. The Chief Wall Street economist just stated that 75% of the ACA will by paid for by the middle class making less than $120,000/year. Quite a different tune from what Obama campaigned on, claiming nobody making $250,000 and less would see a dime increase in their taxes. It's obvious that those who still support Obama and his policies think that they will be the beneficiaries of his policies without having to carry any of the burdens these policies will place on the backs of the working class, at least those who are fortunate enough to still have jobs. Again, you can't talk about any kind of reform without putting people back to work. And the ACA is preventing that from even happening in small businesses, which is still America's main employer.

  • Miss Piggie Salt Lake City, UT
    July 1, 2012 2:35 p.m.

    Romney's answer is very simple... compelled government health care is a state issue... not a federal issue. Period. The federal government has no Constitutional authority to compel citizens to purchase anything. States can compel.

    Of course this argument will not set well with alotta people, especially liberals, as they are complete dunces re the provisions of Constitution limitations.

    Speaking of dunces... the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court is the obvious Chief Dunce. He seems to not realize that the Court has no, zero, nada, authority to write or rewrite law duly enacted by the Congress. His replacement of the work 'penalty' with 'tax' is unconstitutional. The Chief should either be impeached or resign. Perhaps old age senility is setting in.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    July 1, 2012 11:47 a.m.

    The "right to healthcare" will now be "the mandate of healthcare". We've been scammed!

  • samhill Salt Lake City, UT
    July 1, 2012 8:46 a.m.

    "So much for Mitt Romney escaping health care."


    This is hilarious!!

    As soon as I saw this opening sentence that followed the equally loaded headline, I knew the piece was written by some "news" agency like the Associated Press or Reuters. So, I looked at the by-line and, sure enough, I was greeted with not one but --two-- names of Associated Press reporters.

    How I wish it were not so easy to determine the political affiliation of a "journalist" simply by noting the slant of the story by the style/phrases/general tone of the story. The sad fact is that far too many so-called journalists are nothing more than advance troops for political parties. And, judging from the clear leftward tilt of the vast majority, mostly the Democrat party.

    Between the titles "journalist" and "reporter", I greatly prefer the latter, particularly when they simply do the job as described and --report-- the news.

    Just stick to the tried and true "Who, what, where, when, and why (with the occasional "how")" and leave the deeper analysis and opinion formation up to the reader. That's what makes a good reporter and "journalist".

  • New Yorker Pleasant Grove, UT
    June 30, 2012 10:20 p.m.

    I predict that if Romney keeps talking about repealing the health care act, then the great American middle will soon migrate to vote Democrat in this election. The Republicans and far right have been stupid in calling it "Obama Care" because President Obama will proudly and rightly be taking credit for it for years to come. Harry Reid will get and deserves a lot of the credit also because it would not have gone through without his energetic support.

    Efforts to fix specific, understandable problems with the act will get bi-partisan support, but a wholesale repeal effort by the right will alienate the middle. First, the right has no alternative on the table. Second, there is no guarantee an alternative would get the necessary support to pass. The only way forward now is to make reasonable amendments.

    What are the Republicans going to say? "Give up your only chance at American health care equity and justice for our promise to pass another bill. Trust us."

    I don't think so!

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    June 30, 2012 6:04 p.m.

    There You Go Again,

    Doesn't in anyway excuse the healthcare lie. Mark my words--it won't be affordable, and will further subject us to our employees.

  • There You Go Again Saint George, UT
    June 30, 2012 5:56 p.m.


    For those who choose to quote President Reagan, the following quotes indicate there were times when President Reagan spoke with an "...untruthful tongue...".

    President Reagan told fellow Americans:

    "...we did not—repeat, did not—trade weapons or anything else for hostages, nor will we."

    - Ronald Reagan, denying the Iran-Contra Affair, November 1986.

    Later, President Reagan told fellow Americans:

    "A few months ago, I told the American people I did not trade arms for hostages. My heart and my best intentions still tell me that's true, but the facts and evidence tell me it is not."

    - Ronald Reagan, admitting the Iran-Contra Affair, March 1987.

    Republicans love to venerate a Republican who raised taxes 11 times during his presidency.

    Republicans love to excoriate a Democrat who raised taxes during his presidency.

    Such is the state, of partisan politics, in America.

  • Bee Careful Kaysville, UT
    June 30, 2012 5:04 p.m.

    Mitt was governor of a large liberal state that was going to pass a socialized medicine plan whether he wanted it or not. All he could do was to try to make it as 'least objectionable' as possible which he did. This kind of social welfare plan is, and should be, a state initiative, not a federal plan. Obama and his socialists had no business cramming this monstrosity down the collective American throat. Romney knows that and will work for repeal.

  • lovespeaks Lehi, UT
    June 30, 2012 1:14 p.m.

    This article leaves out a lot. And, it is also important to remember that the people in Mass. wanted Romney Care. Mitt represented them, and helped create a working model for what they wanted. Most of the Country does not want Obamacare, it is a very different thing on the National Level. ONe thing I'm curious about, does anyone know if illegals have to pay for this? Or do they get free health care?

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    June 30, 2012 11:07 a.m.

    Obama says this is affordable insurance. Will someone please define affordable?


    What will those five million jobs be?

    We were told that ninety five percent of working Americans will see tax cuts, and the deficit would be cut in half. I don't see that either. Therefore I can't trust the five million new jobs.

    Someone speaks with an untruthful tongue, and we shouldn't keep being fooled with it.

    Ronald Reagan once said--Government control of healthcare is opening the door to Communism.

    June 30, 2012 9:29 a.m.

    The 10th Amendment says "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."

    I take that to mean that States can do things (like issue insurance mandates) that the Federal Government can't. I would love nothing more than to ask a prominent liberal politician, bureaucrat or judge what powers, if any, they belive are still "reserved for the States respectively"

  • Third try screen name Mapleton, UT
    June 30, 2012 5:33 a.m.

    This is a great gift to the Romney campaign and he is already using it.
    Obama now must deal with the greatest unintended consequence of this legislation; that it labels him as the king of taxation.
    Already he is denying that it is a tax. Why? Because it is a HUGE, long-lasting tax increase. And the path is clear for the GOP; repeal Obama's tax by repealing the legislation.
    The 2010 midterms now have a chance of a repeat performance. People will have a clear reason to vote for Republicans in November.

  • AmPatriot Taylorsville, UT
    June 30, 2012 4:38 a.m.

    Pay attention people, Romney says he will REPLACE Obama plans with his own plans for socialized health care which are basically the same plan. If one law for socialized health care is bad then shouldn't it stand to reason that all laws for socialized heath care are wrong?

    What Romney says about repealing the HCA is impossible now that the law is in place and the Congress has already failed to act to repeal the Obama care HCA then there is no hope of ever repealing socialized health care. It has always been Rooney's quoted plan to force socialized health care on the American people is why he has shuned the topic. For he too has taxes in mind to fund his socialization of America. Romney hoax and double standard switchology.

    Utah fears the Obama plan because it render's Utah state run socialized system illegal and the state will have to surrender the taxes and Medicaid asset debt collections to the IRS and HCA. People of the US have no idea of the corruption, anarchy, and fraud going on in Health care in the United States. Its a web of webs that no spider can escape from.

  • Grammy3 SOUTH JORDAN, UT
    June 30, 2012 12:55 a.m.

    This is for Moderate most of those jobs that Obamacare will create is going to those who are going to work for the IRS as agents to fine the people who do not have insurance. Let me tell you this my husband and I have lost just about everything that we worked hard for over these last three years of Obama. We are in our late 50's and it is going to be hard for us to ever get back what we once had. We have not had insurance for over three years. We pay everything that we need our of pocket and do not go to the doctors. I still would not want Obama care and you may ask me why it is because of how dishonest it has come about. I can not trust it or anything in it. I trust Mitt Romney

  • Moderate Salt Lake City, UT
    June 29, 2012 11:39 p.m.

    worf wonders "What would motivate people to be doctors if there's no private sector care, and the government reduces the pay, while increasing paper work?"

    Which Fox News anchor gave you that idea? The whole point of the individual mandate -- as conceived by the conservative think tank Heritage Foundation -- was to keep private insurance involved in the health care system. Private insurance means private sector care.

    A recent article predicted that 5 million jobs will be created in the health care industry. What would motivate people to be doctors? Having a job that won't be shipped overseas.

  • Moderate Salt Lake City, UT
    June 29, 2012 11:31 p.m.

    Mitt Romney is out of step with the Republican Party. The Republican leaders in the House want to hold a vote next month to repeal the entire Affordable Care Act. Sure, that's just a political stunt, but it contradicts what Romney said he would do. Mitt Romney said he would keep several pieces of the legislation. The only thing he wants to change is how it is the funding. He wants to repeal the tax.

    I am very very excited to see what kind of magic money Mitt Romney comes up with so that this healthcare plan is "free" to the American public.

  • wrz Salt Lake City, UT
    June 29, 2012 10:21 p.m.

    Government health care is, or at least can be, a state issue... it's not a federal issue. The US Constitution limits the powers of the federal government. States have no such limitations, per the Constitution's 10th Amendment.

    Romney is right on.

    As for the tax vs. penalty issue... it doesn't matter what it is called. The federal government can't force you to do something simply by declaring that you own it some money if you don't act. It's like saying... if you don't scratch you nose you must fork over to the government $10. The government can't do that under either the Commerce Clause or the taxing authority clause.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    June 29, 2012 9:33 p.m.

    We'll still have people who can't afford a thousand dollars a month for health insurance.

    What's the IRS going to do with these people?

    What would motivate people to be doctors if there's no private sector care, and the government reduces the pay, while increasing paper work?

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    June 29, 2012 9:24 p.m.

    Mitt has been talking about Obamacare for at least 3 years now - what is this article talking about? The democrat's know the country HATES Obamacare so they will 'attempt' to try to get Romney to talk about his health care plan as Governor.. but it simply won't hold water any more .. not after yesterdays ruling.People in this country are red hot ANGRY about OBamacare - again - and they are now scared to death after Roberts called it a big GIANT tax on the middle class. So - go ahead and try to divert attention democrats - to your own demise. Mitt made it crystal clear yesterday that this law is DEAD on day one of this presidency - anything not clear about this? So now we know where Mitt stands - so now where do the democratic senators stand who are running for re-election? Yes sir let us see how many of them are dancing around trying to AVOID talking about OBamacare. Anything but OBamacare. Oh wait - they probably don't want to talk about the economy either. Ouch!! No where to run - no where to hide. America HATES OBamacare and they will punish anyone who supports it.

  • owlmaster2 Kaysville, UT
    June 29, 2012 9:12 p.m.

    Romney's health care plan was great for Massachusetts and was touted as a model for the nation... Now that model without the Romney name is evil, nasty, cruel and unwanted.

    Romney says the first thing he will do is repeal Obamacare. How is he going to do that?? Does he have the votes in Congress and the Senate all lined up prior to election??? So that's a lie.

    Romney is a man of lies and distortions. He is the mystery candidate. He was designated the etch a sketch candidate by his own party cohorts. He scares me. No one really knows who or what he really is from day to day.

    Romney??? I don't think so.