Mitt Romney says Supreme Court ruling brings new urgency to election

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  • worf Mcallen, TX
    June 30, 2012 11:37 a.m.

    Court ruling will help Americans with affordable insurance. Why should this be repealed?

    Could someone define "affordable"? Will more be stolen from the working greedy to pay for less fortunate?

  • George Bronx, NY
    June 29, 2012 11:21 p.m.

    @the truth
    So right now there is unlimited money? there are already limits on resources and look no death panels. In countries with socialized medicine, guess what? no death panels. YOu can keep repeating the same lies you tried during the last presidential election but don't be surprised when you get the same result.

  • the truth Holladay, UT
    June 29, 2012 7:54 p.m.

    Yes, there will be "death panels".

    For an analogy that even the left can understand:

    if care costs a dollar.
    and if there is only 10 dollars collected, and there are 20 people needing care,

    who will decide which do not get care, or who will only get partial or limited care?

    Yes there will be "death panels", because there will only be so many dollars.

    RE: Furry

    If it is skewed to the left is that not also liberal facism?

    What is liberal big government control over all aspects of our lives?

    what light bulb you can use, bake sales, vending machines, drink sizes, education system, your personal health. shutting down conservative voices at colleges, trying to remove religion and religious voice from the public square, attacks on gun rights, political correctness, regulation upon goes on and on.

    add to that high energy prices that only hurt the poor and middle class.

    no liberty, no agency only what some elite liberal tells you can do or say or think.

    How is that not facism?

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    June 29, 2012 4:35 p.m.

    Are we being fooled into thinking, "free healthcare"?

    We are marching into the leash and grip of political control and regulations? Taxes we cannot pay, will have consequences.

    Wasn't the Revolutionary War fought to get away from this kind of control. The Constitution was written to prevent it.

    Oh how easily we forget, or become ignorant to our coming decline. Many lose sight of the gift of freedom.

  • LValfre CHICAGO, IL
    June 29, 2012 4:29 p.m.


    "Romney would be a disaster for the United States and its people."

    I disagree. I'm not for Romney or Obama, but I don't think Romney would be a disaster for the US. I don't think he's any different than Bush and many other previous presidents.

    In my opinion, Romney offers a better direction for financial reasons. Obama offers a better direction for civil reasons.

    If Romney had a heart for gays and homosexuals I would consider voting for him. But he can't separate church and state so he loss my vote a long time ago.

    Obama cares about people, all people, but just doesn't get the financial realities. Health care and all these blanket programs sound great on paper ... until none of us have any paper if you catch my drift.

  • Hemlock Salt Lake City, UT
    June 29, 2012 4:17 p.m.

    Please figure out a way for universal health care that will not bankrupt the country. All Mr. Obama wants to do is borrow more money and drive us deeper into the tank. The SCOTUS has rejected his plan for states administering the ACA and so we have a new tax (not a penalty) that doesn't cover the cost and no way to set Medicaid standards. That is not progress. Stop the chest bumping and look at the facts.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    June 29, 2012 4:11 p.m.

    Mark this down. Nothing in this world is free.

    People are fooling themselves, if they think healthcare will be free. The price is going to be enormous in many ways.

  • George Bronx, NY
    June 29, 2012 3:42 p.m.

    if you actually believe what you wrote about your fellow americans then yes you are out of touch. I also not sure what people think they are going to accomplish by repeating the same lies (i.e. death panels) and gross stereotypes (liberals are just lazy, repubs are all fascist) that failed during the last election. Maybe its time for some people to take a break so the grown-ups can have a conversation.

  • Hank Pym SLC, UT
    June 29, 2012 3:03 p.m.

    Recently, SCOTUS upheld Kelo v New London, Citizens United, & Obamacare.

    Anyone else see a disturbing pattern emerge?

  • ouisc Farmington, UT
    June 29, 2012 2:10 p.m.

    So Mitt Romney, here's what we need out of you.

    1) Please balance the anti-Obamacare rhetoric with a future plan. Please let us know how we can reduce costs by reducing medical waste and by strategically reduce the amount of fraud in healthcare claims. Reducing costs is truly the only way we can afford to supply healthcare for all. Please identify the good points in Obamacare, and don't be afraid to keep them.

    2) The Massachusettes individual mandate was an experiment. Now that several years have passed, and healthcare costs in Massachusettes have grown more than the rest of the country, please provide your assessment of the individual mandate so we can help you assess the future of healthcare in the U.S.

  • ouisc Farmington, UT
    June 29, 2012 2:04 p.m.

    Okay. So the Democrats passed a massive piece of legislation two years ago, essentially taking an idea that kind of worked in Massachusettes and thought to apply it nationally. There are several thoughts in this legislation that is not thought out very well--pass the bill and we'll figure out the details later. (The devil is in the details, by the way.)

    The Supreme Court decided it is okay to place a tax on those who don't have health insurance. In order to pull this off, there's going to be a radical increase in your annual tax forms. There will be loopholes. But we'll figure that out later.

    The Massachusettes individual mandate experiment, though creative, is not meant to be applied to a national healthcare system, which is 1/8th of the national economy. In fact, it's hard to say the Massachusettes individual mandate is even working--healthcare costs....COSTS....are increasing in Massachusettes at twice the rate of the rest of the country.

  • SS MiddleofNowhere, Utah
    June 29, 2012 1:59 p.m.

    The problem goes far beyond healthcare and Obama. The problem is that now we have given the government the power to impose anything they want on us. If we don't pay for other individuals health insurance than we are required to pay a tax?! So in the future you can expect that if you don't buy a certain car you will be required to pay a tax, if you don't belong to a certain religion you will be required to pay a tax, if you don't believe in a certain theory, donate to a certain organization, or support certain things then we will be required to pay a tax! We have just shown that we would rather give up our freedom and allow the government to take care of things for us to the point that our freedoms are disappearing!

  • ouisc Farmington, UT
    June 29, 2012 1:56 p.m.

    Sorry to hear that, Reader. Unfortunately, there are many companies who are looking to get rid of healthcare benefits for their employees, and this is their ticket out. I know that my insurance premiums are going to increase $600-$1000/year, since I have a "cadillac plan" with my employer.

    Personally, I think it's a great idea to divorce healthcare benefits from employers, but Obama's mandate, which Democrats consider to be a "first step," is unrealistic from a cost perspective. We've all been facing wildly increasing healthcare costs, and to think we're all just going to continue with the same "out-of-control" system, drastically increase our taxes, and provide insurance coverage for everyone in the country is absolutely absurd.

  • Furry1993 Clearfield, UT
    June 29, 2012 12:40 p.m.

    To Counter Intelligence 10:27 a.m. June 29, 2012

    Check out Lawrence Britt's Fourteen Characteristics of Fascism. Mr. Britt studied the fascist regimes of Hitler (Germany), Mussolini (Italy), Franco (Spain), Suharto (Indonesia), and Pinochet (Chile). He found the regimes all had 14 things in common, and he calls these the identifying characteristics of fascism. You'll find all of them (some more, some less, but all present) in the policies and rhetoric of the far right. It's blind to tout the socialist tendencies of the far left (and yes, some are there) and totally ignore the fascism of the far right.

  • HaHaHaHa Othello, WA
    June 29, 2012 12:25 p.m.

    RE: Reader1234 - I'm sorry for your apparent situation, but I am sure things will work out eventually. However, I have to say, people being put in your situation was predicted long ago, before Obamacare was even passed into law. That was the discussion going on behind the debate in Congress. BHO and his comrades will deny it, but what is happening to you, is their ulterior motive. It is incremental, step by step - single payer. Total government control!

  • Jim Mesa, Az
    June 29, 2012 12:18 p.m.

    Why do we even bother with elected officials, who are supposed to represent the voice of the people, when 9 unelected officials can overturn the voice of the people.

  • non believer PARK CITY, UT
    June 29, 2012 12:17 p.m.

    To Deep in Thought
    "Under Obamacare, seniors would face death panels to decide if they get the care they need and the poorest and middle class people will pick up most of this new tax"
    This has been proven false over and over again. End of Life couseling helps those who are terminal put their affairs in order. This happens now but is usually not covered under most plans. These are Fear Mongering tactics used so well by Sarah Palin and Michelle Bauchman! Please stick to facts that you can back up!

  • Ernest T. Bass Bountiful, UT
    June 29, 2012 12:15 p.m.

    This is Romneycare. It's his plan he implemented in Mass.

  • Whos Life RU Living? Ogden, UT
    June 29, 2012 12:14 p.m.

    A few years ago when it was apparent that Romney would be the most reasonable Republican nominee, I was thinking that this election was going to be a win-win situation until Romney began to pander to the extreme right wing.

    What is different between Romneycare and Obamacare? Federal level vs. State? What does it matter? Are we all not human beings that need reasonable healthcare?

    I feel bad for Romney because he sold one of his greatest accomplishments as governor to become the Republican puppet.

    Since Obamacare is the mirror image of Romneycare, many of the posters on here need to research the success of Romneycare and then come back and post.

  • Doug10 Roosevelt, UT
    June 29, 2012 12:11 p.m.

    Mitt says the court "did not get the job done" I can hardly wait for the man to be elected. Whenever he disagrees with "law" he will ride in and fix it for the country.

    Mitt agrees it would take 80 billion to repeal the law but what is money to a rich guy anyway?

    Is everyone so afraid of sharing their income with the less fortunate?

    We do not want to help those less fortunate. If some of our taxes are paid for their health care so be it. Ask me and it is better there than buying tents and weapons so we can fight an oil war in Iraq.

    I have been a GOP all my life but Mitt (who will say anything to please who he is with) makes me weak at the knees when I think of him as president. Now he has admitted his economic plan will increase the deficit (not by millions or billions but trillions) and I say change the dang plan, you have changed every other opinion you ever had.

    We already have a president who is not bothered by the high cost of things, we don't need another.

  • Liberal Ted Salt Lake City, UT
    June 29, 2012 11:32 a.m.

    If Romney is not elected. Then it's time for the union to be dissolved. All of the democrats and their supporters will take part of the country. The rest of us will take the other part. They can run all of the deficits and tax themselves to their hearts content and build their "utopian society".

    The rest of us will be productive and live our lives without the government raping us of our earnings and forcing us to adhere to their beliefs and be slaves to those who won't do for themselves. The American dream is to first be allowed to be born with being aborted. 2. Live in liberty free of other dictating everything you can do. Pursuit of happiness, being successful without fear of your wealth and property being taken away.

    They worry about a theocracy...I can't see what obama envisions as being any better...their attack on religion with all of their other policies make it very clear, that the country is divided and it's time to go our seperate ways. Their bipartisian nonsense is exactly that. Negotiations have failed. Time to move on.

  • HS Fan Salt Lake City, UT
    June 29, 2012 11:31 a.m.

    Be afraid, be very afraid. That's the Neo-nuts platform this year. Just last year it was gays in the miltary would be the end of our armed forces. How's that prophecy working out for them?
    I agree the health care ruling is going to have a major impact on the election. The Dem's are going to be putting it front and center as how they continue to lead (same as the gay's in the military) on the major issues and get things done. Republicans strategy the past 3 years is to obstruct and be anarchist and how has that helped their agenda? In the swing states Obama has a significant lead and it appears to be solidifying and growing. The neo-nuts are in trouble and continue to have nothing to offer but snake skin oil and the bogey man.

  • johnnylingo62 Gray, TN
    June 29, 2012 11:24 a.m.

    There will be RATIONED health care if ObamaCare goes forward -- just do the math, how difficult is it to see a doctor today. Now add 20,000,000 more people to the system, who will utilize their "free" insurance, since gov't (actually you and I) will subsidize those that can't afford to really buy insurance, as often as they wish, even for common colds, which they would have treated with over-the-counter "symptom relievers" instead of visiting a doctor.
    I'm not saying that poorer people shouldn't have access to health care, far from it, States have programs for them already, but when something is "free" (just go to an all you can eat buffet and watch how much food is taken to the table and then wasted and thrown away because their eyes were bigger than their stomach) people won't be frugal with their resources.
    We'll need more doctors, who will make less money due to gov't MANDATING how much doctors can charge for services which will de-incentivize good students to enter the medical field so you will get more mediocre doctors having to work more cases - so ration services.

  • reader1234 South Jordan, UT
    June 29, 2012 11:13 a.m.

    My company sent out an email yesterday stating that because of the ruling that they are now thinking of dropping our health coverage. We will be forced onto the government exchanges. Please someone explain to me how my situation has now improved? When I told the news to my wife she started crying. I work with 1500 people. They all lost their health insurance yesterday.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    June 29, 2012 11:07 a.m.

    Reasons why Americans lack insight:

    * at a young age, were forced out of the home to be raised and indoctrinated by government schools. Self thought has been discouraged, and replaced by team cooperation. We are destroying the planet, etc.
    * led to believe, lustful attractiveness in the most important thing in life.
    * everyone is entitled to have things without effort.
    * people who disagree with you are bigots. People don't deserve success.

    Guess I'm out of touch.

  • ute alumni Tengoku, UT
    June 29, 2012 11:04 a.m.

    yomama is out in 6 months. libs get over it, the socialist agenda is being given the boot.

  • HaHaHaHa Othello, WA
    June 29, 2012 11:03 a.m.

    What part of a state controlled, top-down healthcare system, forcing you to buy health insurance, isn't fascism?

  • deep in thought Salt Lake, UT
    June 29, 2012 10:38 a.m.

    @ One old man

    I admit death panels is a stretch, but have you seen Obama's attack ads lately? They attack Romney for closing steel plants that he left long before they were ever closed. Attack ads aren't always 100% accurate, my point was that there is a lot of fodder for attack ads, which will help Romney.

    But the tax part is absolutely true, the majority of people with no health insurance now are the poor to middle class who can't afford it. They will be required to purchase it. Small companies who can't afford to buy insurance for their employees will have to purchase it. Insurance rates will go up if it is anything like Romneycare meaning every working class American will have more expensive insurance.

    I know Obamacare is something "new" and "shiny" but do we really want to implement something that Congress doesn't even know what is written in the law. Nancy Pelosi famously said, "We need to hurry and pass it so we can figure out what is in it."

    Not very responsible whether you are Republican, Democrat, or alien.

  • The Politics of Listening A Tropical Paradise USA, FL
    June 29, 2012 10:33 a.m.

    Romney says Supreme Court ruling brings new urgency to election because Pelosi sees Roberts helping uphold U.S. healthcare law. As a Democratic senator from Illinois in 2005, Obama opposed Republican President George W. Bush's nomination of Roberts to the Supreme Court. The court's four Democratic-appointed liberals, Justices Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Stephen Breyer, Sonia Sotomayor and Elena Kagan, are widely expected to vote to uphold the healthcare law. Pelosi voiced confidence that the healthcare law she helped draft will meet any constitutional test. "It is ironclad. We didn't do this off the back of our hand," she said. "We believe in judicial review in everything that we do. I wrote a bill that would withstand any question of its conditionality." In 2010, the same year the president got his healthcare law through Congress, Obama ripped into the Roberts court for a ruling that allowed corporations to spend unlimited money in elections. This week the court again drew the wrath of the White House as well as Pelosi and other Democrats in Congress by reaffirming its 2010 decision by rejecting Montana's century-old ban on businesses engaging in political spending.


    Romney completely discredited.

  • one old man Ogden, UT
    June 29, 2012 10:17 a.m.

    When we have people who are so out of touch with reality that they continue to post nonsense like: "Under Obamacare, seniors would face death panels to decide if they get the care they need and the poorest and middle class people will pick up most of this new tax" we know how urgent it will be to make certain Romney is soundly defeated in November.

  • deep in thought Salt Lake, UT
    June 29, 2012 10:14 a.m.

    @ Mark B

    I favor state directed reforms instead of federal reforms. And Romney hasn't been running from Mass. health care. In the primary season over and over people tried to get him to denounce his mandate and he would not. I remember once Newt especially cornered him on it.

    The mandate is very popular in Massachusetts even though it has raised the cost of insurance significantly. I think that the majority of the state is Democratic minded and people obey the mandate law, even embrace it.

    You live in CA, I think they would quickly follow suit with a similar idea. More conservative states would tailor it to their needs. Even Romney said he would keep the more popular parts of Obamacare, like kids on their insurance until they are 26 etc.

    And for those of you who say it wouldn't work on a state level, it has worked in Massachusetts, but it has increased insurance and health care costs. If that is what the state wants, so be it. They can cut back on teacher pay on other government spending and people in that state will be happy. Less waste at a state vs federal level also.

  • Hutterite American Fork, UT
    June 29, 2012 10:04 a.m.

    No, I'm fine with it. The urgency he speaks of is fabricated.

  • Mark B Eureka, CA
    June 29, 2012 10:01 a.m.

    I'd be thrilled to see which ideas for health care reform are favored by deep. The comment on "death panels" was surprising, as I thought that the whole accusation had already been completely discredited. No mention of how the Mass. system that Mitt's been running FROM is working, either.

  • deep in thought Salt Lake, UT
    June 29, 2012 9:47 a.m.

    I believe this decision will help Romney in the future. After people start actually picking through what Obamacare really says, the attack ads will become oh so easy...

    "Under Obamacare, seniors would face death panels to decide if they get the care they need and the poorest and middle class people will pick up most of this new tax"

    It was just too sloppily written and shoved through and lightning speed. I'm all for health care reform, but Obamacare isn't it.

  • Furry1993 Clearfield, UT
    June 29, 2012 9:40 a.m.

    The biggest urgency is preventing Mitt from naming any judges to the Supreme Court. It is already skewed off of center and to the right. We absolutely don't need it going further right if we want the United States to eschew fascism. The more the far right controls things in the United States, the more fascist the United States becomes. I do NOT want to see that happening.

    Vote against Romney to protect the best interests of the United States and its people.