Brad Rock: Utah Jazz working to get Mo from L.A. deal

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  • Northstar Logan, UT
    July 2, 2012 4:25 p.m.

    "Foster's rights were traded to the Utah Jazz as part of the Lamar Odom trade to the LA Clippers, and Mo Williams to the Utah Jazz on June 29, 2012."

    What about the Shan Foster part of this trade deal? Where is Shan Foster now? Playing in Europe? Tossing burgers at McDonalds? Is this worth anything? I wonder if he might play for the Jazz in summer league?

  • Northstar Logan, UT
    July 2, 2012 4:17 p.m.

    If the Jazz don’t make any "short for long" trades, they should end up with a huge amount of salary cap space for free agents for the 2013 season. I would speculate that the Jazz will “hold their cards” for the 2012 season and the try to “stack the deck” for the 2013 season.

  • Northstar Logan, UT
    July 2, 2012 4:09 p.m.

    Humm, might the Jazz be loading up on expiring contracts with a purpose? Like packaging short term contracts to trade for long term contracts? For a trade, the contract values need to be roughly equivalent, on an annualized basis, but they could trade expiring contracts to a team for a player with a contract that the other team no longer wants. It gives the other team a "get out of [jail][bad contract] free" card, if the other team is willing to take back the questionable contract.

    The Jazz are actually loaded with expiring contracts. Maybe they are playing the "short for long trade" strategy this year?
    Jefferson, $15M
    Harris, $8.5M
    Williams, $8.5M
    Millsap, $7.2M
    Bell, $3.5M
    Watson, $2M
    Tinsley, $1.4M

    That is a ton of trade bait, maybe won't see any action up until the trade deadline. But I bet that the team starting the 2013 season will look far different than the team that appears it will start the 2012 season.

  • utahsportfanatic PRICE, UT
    June 29, 2012 4:45 p.m.

    @Doug10-All I have to say is wow, what NBA are you watching?! Deron outsmarted O'Connor? Really?! And you think that Chris Paul was available for us this past season?! Really?! Thanks for the laughs my friend! I really needed to read that post from you! It made my day!

    As for this trade, I'm not quite sold on it. We are essentially getting a slightly better 3-point/FT shooting Devin Harris in Williams. It's eery just how similar their career stats are. I'm assuming this trade paves the way to move Harris, who is also in the final year of his contract...I'm interested to see how this summer plays out.

  • Doug10 Roosevelt, UT
    June 29, 2012 1:59 p.m.

    Pres Bush went back and tried to fix a past mistake in Iraq and it had disasterous results even though we say we won, why are we trying to mend KOC's past mistakes?

    Does KOC beleive Mo will work wonders?, that somehow he will take on a former self of 5 years ago and make KOC look like a smart GM?

    KOC learn your lesson and move on with your life. Jazz seem to beating the secondhand bushes looking for another Deron Williams. Trouble is we had Deron Williams and could'nt win and then Deron outsmarted KOC, and left and so we have very little to show for that debacle.

    KOC if you want to do something meaningful get Deron back because we have a raft of players who could really use a talented poing guard. Chris Paul became available last season and we took..... Devin who is a good pg but not on the level of what we had nor on the level of what it takes to win in this league.

    At his peak Mo had 35% of the guards better than him. Now the number is closer to 60% are better than him.

  • TheHailstorm South Weber, UT
    June 29, 2012 1:01 p.m.

    Beats the daylights out of C.J. and Bell.
    This new rookie couldn't be worse. Now if Raja would show him how to take a charge, then the future looks brighter than hauling around those two pieces of dead wood.
    It would be sweet to get rid of Harris but no one wants another contract at his inflated rate of pay.
    Never trade Millsap. With the youngsters the Jazz could really be onto bigger and better things. We impatient fans will just have to wait and see.

  • mulrich Columbia, SC
    June 29, 2012 6:06 a.m.

    I'm okay with Williams but I was hoping for more from the trade exemption.

    Ultimately we will have traded a semi-functional Okur for Williams.

    I'm not entirely sure that Williams is better than Harris. There are a lot of similarities; both are former all-stars a few years removed from their prime (I would argue Harris had a higher peak than Williams), their career statistics are eerily similar, both would earn $8.5M in the final year of their contract, they were born within a few months of each other. Williams is a better 3 point shooter but Harris shoots better inside the line. Harris is also a better passer but that could be our system.

    All that adds to my opinion that Williams will not be an upgrade from Harris. Harris probably has higher trade value, so maybe we're working on a deal for him. Little value in having near identical PG's.

  • Ishmot Ivins, UT
    June 29, 2012 6:01 a.m.

    Yeah we see how well that worked out with Bell.Mo might have a better attitude, let's hope!

  • dleger Lafayette, LA
    June 29, 2012 1:10 a.m.

    I like the pick. However, would he play SG where we currently have a logjam or would he play small forward. It would appear that he could easily take over for CJ or DH.

  • stonewall Cottonwood Heights, UT
    June 29, 2012 12:40 a.m.

    Brad made one mistake in this article. Williams' choice isn't between staying in L.A. or coming to Utah. If he doesn't exercise his option to opt out of the last year of his deal with the Clippers, then he's the Clippers' property for one more year at the price of $8.5 million, and they would have the ability to trade him regardless of what he wants. The choice for him is between keeping the final year of his contract and being traded to the Jazz, or opting out and becoming a free agent. Staying with the Clippers is not a possible outcome at this point if the teams all stay committed to the deal.