BYU football: Bronco Mendenhall, Tom Holmoe in favor of new playoff system

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  • Ballplayer Spanish Fork, UT
    July 4, 2012 10:27 p.m.

    Didn't sound like they "embraced it" like the headline says. Sounds like they've accepted that these are the current rules to play by. I'd like to know what Bronco means by "logistically impossible" to have an 8 or 16 team tournament in D-1A. D-1AA and every level below them does it, including high school leagues. The NFL above them does it. Is D-1A the donut hole of stupidity when it comes to logistics?

  • esodije ALBUQUERQUE, NM
    June 30, 2012 5:54 p.m.

    I still think the real point of the Y's football independence is being overlooked, which is being on national TV every week, building fan base, and furthering the mission of the church. To get to the four-team playoff as an independent will require not only a super-strong schedule--problematic in November, obviously--but absolutely no losses; on the other hand, even if BYU joined the Big 12, it would still have to win the conference to make the playoff, which would be about as likely, and happen roughly as often, as Utah's winning the Pac-12. Speaking as a newly rabid Cougs fan, I'd much rather see a competitive, if not quite unbeaten BYU team play on TV every week against more and more "name" programs than to see them join a "power" conference and suffer the ignominy of second-tierdom (like Utah will do over time). At some point, BYU simply can't get better without recruiting a bunch of bad apples who have no intention of adhering to the honor code; I say let Utah have those guys if they can get them.

  • charlie24 Sandy, UT
    June 30, 2012 1:42 p.m.

    Some still don't get it. Bronco does not think a conference championship means anything. How would he know? He will never ever play in a game as big and the conference championship of one of the big 4. The winners of those four games will have a SOS advantage that will be a mountain to overcome. Even a championship like the MWC will not compete with such big games. Only ND has a chance outside the BIG, Big12, SEC, Pac12.
    Bluto thinks the BCS is dead but does not see what replaced it. These 4 teams will come from the big 4 conferences, the exception, likely ND or ACC champion will be on occasion. ND and the next 5 or 6 from the big 4 conferences, maybe the ACC champion will form the top tier under the playoff teams. The 3rd tier will involve all the rest that will include the best Mid Majors and independents other than ND. Boise State will possibly be the one to upset this once in a blue moon. I think you say the old system change without understanding the new program.

  • Whoa Nellie American Fork, UT
    June 29, 2012 12:10 p.m.

    "The recipe for success is to have a good team, a good coach, and players that are committed and have some athletic ability. As of right now, the Y has none of those things."

    Wrong yet again. You seem to know about as much about BYU football as I do about utah football; very little, and neither of us really care.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    June 29, 2012 9:35 a.m.

    Papa Smurf UTE:

    "I for the life of me don't understand why Bronco and Holmoe are in favor of this. It makes it just as hard, if not harder to get there."

    I don't think this new playoff model makes it harder for the Indy-WACers to play in the Final Four. During the BCS-era, the "perfection questers" were required to finish in the Top-2* of the Final BCS standings. Now, they have to finish in the Top-4. SOS won't create any additional complications since SOS was ALREADY a factor, so there should be no change there.

    I just don't know why Holmoe and Mendenhall like this new model because since SOS WILL be a factor, and since they'll never possess the SOS required, they're out before the season starts. Just like last year.

  • Papa Smurf UTE Herriman, UT
    June 28, 2012 5:45 p.m.

    Blue in the face,

    Schedules work out like that. You have to get some lucky breaks sometimes. Like you in 84. Weak schedule, no real tough games, and the only semi tough game at home. Then a bowl game, where the top ranked teams dont want to come play you, and you end up in the Holiday Bowl playing a weak 6-5 Michigan team. The recipe for success is to have a good team, a good coach, and players that are committed and have some athletic ability. As of right now, the Y has none of those things. Riley is a GREAT athlete, and an even better person, but not a great QB. Hoffman & Van Noy are the only players the Y has that are worth anything. I would take either right now to play at Utah. I for the life of me don't understand why Bronco and Holmoe are in favor of this. It makes it just as hard, if not harder to get there. It's a 4 team playoff, not 5 BCS bowl games with a lot of money. There are still good bowl games out there, but none that you are tied into.

  • Bluto Sandy, UT
    June 28, 2012 5:43 p.m.

    Looks like "patriot" has a hard time keeping up.

    The BCS is No More buddy.
    Your BCS wins, AQ Conference Crutch and phony self contrived status, has run it's course.

    There will be many many years that not even one Pac 10+ team even makes the final four.
    And it will never be U.

    You're just one of 124 D-1 teams now, just like everbody else.

    Utes fans even talking about Undefeated and 1 or 2 loss seasons, is just laughable.
    You did that with MWC schedules.....Remember?

  • BlueNtheFace Rancho Cucamonga, CA
    June 28, 2012 4:55 p.m.

    patriot: In the old BCS system, the winners of the "BCS" conferences were Automatic Qualifiers (whatever their ranking). Then 6 other teams got BCS Bowl bids. Now, in the 4-team playoff system, a committee decides who the top 4 teams are according to SOS, win-loss, etc.

    BYU doesn't have to be in a "BCS" conference to get in now. It would help our SOS if we were part of a good conference, but that is the extent of the benefit of being in one of those big 6 conferences. Oh, that and a conference championship game.

  • SoonerUte Salt Lake City, UT
    June 28, 2012 4:47 p.m.

    "Notre Dame athletic director Jack Swarbrick said Wednesday that he expected college football's four-team playoff selection committee to put an emphasis on strength of schedule"

    Is Swarbrick taking a swipe at the other independents? C'mon, Jack! You're supposed to be looking out for your little brothers!

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    June 28, 2012 4:28 p.m.

    New BCS ruling has no effect on BYU since BYU isn't in a BCS conference anyway nor is it like Notre Dame a BCS qualifier.

  • BlueNtheFace Rancho Cucamonga, CA
    June 28, 2012 4:00 p.m.

    Some used to say that BYU fans were arrogant. If UTESWAGG is the new standard for Ute fandom, then wowsers.

    I remember how you benefited from you home schedule in 2008 - play crap away games and play all your tough ones at home. Recipe for success. Maybe you can achieve that "balance" again someday.

  • UTESWAGG Salt Lake City, UT
    June 28, 2012 3:26 p.m.

    I remember that old days, when the Utes had to run the table undefeated and win with "style points" to get any recognition at all. Isnt BCS status great ? Being in the Conference of Champions PAC12 is just a sign of our accomplishment.

    BYU FANS- It must be sad to know in July that theres no way you can reach the 4 team PLayoff, no matter how hard you try nobody wants you BYU


  • I4C4U Zion, UT
    June 28, 2012 2:05 p.m.

    Where I see a problem is who ends up being on the selection committee. It may be asking alot to get the people that will be fair to everyone.
    As far a Utah being able to lose a game and still be relevant: Forget it! There could be 3 or 4 teams from the SEC alone that could be better than the winner of the PAC 10.2

  • Bubble Boy Salt Lake City, UT
    June 28, 2012 11:08 a.m.

    We can totally do this. We just need to exectue at a higher level.

  • Razzle2 Bluffdale, UT
    June 28, 2012 10:16 a.m.

    Get in a conference ASAP to build a strength of schedule all year OR play the best teams in the country in September and win. For the rest of the year; run-up the score to insane numbers like Boise State did.

    This playoff is good for BSU. It could be for BYU, but we have to win everything.

  • eastcoastcoug Danbury, CT
    June 28, 2012 6:52 a.m.

    BYU just needs to play at a higher level or this talk about championships at seasons' end will continue to be what it has been for decades - meaningless. While Utah, Boise St and TCU have all notched 2 BCS appearances and wins, we have been stuck in a mid-tier level. The coaches and players need to expect more and work harder or tell the rest of us that they are happy being mediocre.

    I get the feeling sometimes most fans and team officials are just happy BYU fields a team and builds character. That's great, but you can win and have character with the right effort.

    June 27, 2012 8:25 p.m.

    The math is simple. Schedule good games and win every game.

    Meanwhile Utah can lose a game and still be relevant. Plus they have no scheduling issues.

    Oh how I hate the fact they got into the Pac.

    But if we win - it will be spectacular.