Vote for Hatch if you want to continue business as usual

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  • Vaughn J Kearns, UT
    June 27, 2012 7:20 p.m.

    swede1952 Congratulations, Now I see that your cut and paste propaganda was not even your own. Great win for Hatch

  • cjb Bountiful, UT
    June 26, 2012 12:24 p.m.

    Were I Hatch, I'd take the retirement he has earned, relax and enjoy life.

    I hope he wins, I am actually grateful to him for being willing to serve once again.

  • Flying Finn Murray, UT
    June 26, 2012 9:13 a.m.

    Furry1993 writes: "The "back of the bus" comment was made in October 2010, almost two years after President Obama took office."

    It has always been President Obama's way or the highway. He does not tolerate dissent and does not understand the concept of compromise. If you are not a team player you can't expect support from the loyal opposition. That is why he is in trouble now.

  • Rifleman Salt Lake City, Utah
    June 26, 2012 8:29 a.m.

    Re: Furry1993 Clearfield, UT
    "The "back of the bus" comment was made in October 2010, almost two years after President Obama took office."

    In case you've forgotten that ill advised comment was made when the Democrats had control of the US House and had a veto proof Senate. The timeline was when Obama didn't need the Republican's help. A wise US President would have understood that the day would come when he would need their help.

    I understand the timeline perfectly, and associate the comment as coming from someone who thought the "Chicago Democratic machine" method of doing business would work in Washington.

  • Furry1993 Clearfield, UT
    June 26, 2012 7:38 a.m.

    To Rifleman 5:53 a.m. 6/26/2012

    The "back of the bus" comment was made in October 2010, almost two years after President Obama took office. In case you forget, he had been trying to work with the Republicans and the far right for all that time, and they had refused him and tried to block him at every turn. He was frustrated and made an unwise comment (understandable but not a good way to act). If the Republicans and, especially, the far right had been agreeable to working with him and had not, out of spite or malice, tried to block everything he tried to do for the benefit of the United States, we would all be better off now.

    If you want to make a comment like the "back of the bus" comment, at least get the timeline right and put the comment in context.

  • Rifleman Salt Lake City, Utah
    June 26, 2012 5:53 a.m.

    Re: Esquire Springville, UT
    "actually, with the mess he was handed and with the GOP doing all they can to stop him, I think Obama has done pretty good"

    Leaders don't make excuses, they give results. If Obama wanted the GOP's help he should have asked for it instead of telling them they could come for the ride but had to sit in back.

    What kind of leader is that?

  • Esquire Springville, UT
    June 25, 2012 12:37 p.m.

    @ Ballplayer, actually, with the mess he was handed and with the GOP doing all they can to stop him, I think Obama has done pretty good. And just because you don't like one guy doesn't mean all change should be avoided. Again, if you like the way things are gong, and have gone over the past 36 years, vote for Orrin. Whatever.

  • Rifleman Salt Lake City, Utah
    June 25, 2012 11:31 a.m.

    Re: swede1952 Smithfield, UT
    "As one elderly woman stated at the caucus I attended in March, "Oh, we can't lose our senior Senator!" I am NO longer her friend because of her mule-like attitude!"

    You gave up a friendship because someone voted her conscience? Shallow friendships really aren't worth cultivating. Sen. Hatch represents voters with mental maturity, and that is the reason why he'll be re-elected in November.

  • Apricot Tree Brigham City, UT
    June 25, 2012 10:45 a.m.

    Swede 1952:

    1. There are only about 10-15 people who check this thread.
    2. I am an Orrin Hatch supporter, and I am 30 years old. I know several others who are much younger than I am who will be voting for Orrin Hatch because they value and respect seniority and experience, and look at the big picture of how change happens. They don't vote based off of emotions, but rather political platform, record, and projection into the future. You can hold me responsible and many other young voters as well - I am fine with that.
    3. "Senior manipulation?" "NO longer her friend?"
    4. Behaving like sheep is good, as long as you are following the right shepherd. This isn't about who is brainwashed and who is not, Swede. Don't make this so personal. Politics is tough. There are winners and losers. If Dan Liljenquist wins, then I will not behave childish, I will support him and encourage him to get things done. But this is politics, and I believe Orrin Hatch will be able to do a much better job representing Utah and national jobs, debt management, and conservative values.

  • Ballplayer Spanish Fork, UT
    June 25, 2012 9:25 a.m.

    "Vote for Hatch if you want to continue business as usual or vote for a fresh person that wants to see things change."

    Change--isn't that what Obama used as a campaign theme? How's that working out? Change for the sake of change isn't the answer. Liljenquist doesn't have what it takes to get the job done.

  • swede1952 Smithfield, UT
    June 25, 2012 5:09 a.m.

    From the article in yesterday's Deseret News, Dan Jones polling predicts a victory in Tuesday's primary for Orrin Hatch. As I read this prediction, my heart sank. It would appear the "tough old bird" has once again conned enough older Utahns into behaving like sheep. To me, the lesson Massachusetts learned in 2009 when Ted Kennedy died at 77 1/2 years of age or West Virginia's Robert Byrd at age 92 went unlearned! When you elect older candidates to public office, you also vote for a possible interruption in their term because of death. Geez, is that so hard to understand?

    I hold seniors responsible if Hatch is re-elected. United, they form a huge block of voters. They only entertain thoughts of allowing Hatch an unprecedented 7th term because of their greed concerning Social Security and Medicare. As one elderly woman stated at the caucus I attended in March, "Oh, we can't lose our senior Senator!" I am NO longer her friend because of her mule-like attitude!

    I appeal to Utah voter 45 and younger. Turn out in record numbers at tomorrow's primary! Vote for DAN for change! Stop this senior manipulation!

  • PeanutGallery Salt Lake City, UT
    June 24, 2012 8:20 p.m.

    For Sen. Hatch, "business as usual" is hypocritically promoting a balanced budget amendment as political cover for himself while he continues to vote for bills that put us deeper and deeper in debt.

  • Rifleman Salt Lake City, Utah
    June 24, 2012 5:22 p.m.

    Re: one old man Ogden, UT
    "The answer is named Scott Howell."

    The liberals just don't get it. Howell may be a decent man but until the Democrats start placing value on the lives of innocent unborn children they just aren't going to gain any traction in a state that opposes abortion on demand.

    Now if the life of the mother is in danger, the woman was raped, or the pregnancy involved incest the conservatives are at the head of the line in approving an abortion. If it is because the woman has been playing around that is a different matter.

  • There You Go Again Saint George, UT
    June 24, 2012 4:56 p.m.

    I look forward to voting for o hatch in 2012, 2018, 2024, 2030, 2036...basically forever, if possible, you never know...

    Just think how much better he will get every 6 years...

    At least, the year leading up to the next election...

    Just think how much senority he will have.

    There are 3 senators who have served into their 100's, the oldest being Cornelius Cole (102).

    o hatch is now 78.

    If we can keep him alive, in office, until 3/22/2037, using his government health insurance, supplemented by the millions he has made/will make as a US Senator, he could make it to 103.

    Just think, Utah can truly be #1...


  • The Politics of Listening A Tropical Paradise USA, FL
    June 24, 2012 2:46 p.m.

    I am not here to make excuses for the shortcomings of George Bush or for Ronald Reagan nor am I a shill for Mitt Romney and claim allegiance to no political party. No organization owns my vote, I will give it to whoever I feel will serve the nation best regardless of the letter next to their name.

  • Brother Chuck Schroeder A Tropical Paradise USA, FL
    June 24, 2012 2:43 p.m.

    Hatch is a RINO dinosaur and a prehistoric beast, relating to the period before history was first recorded in writing. Utah's Channel of Prehistoric travels back in time, reveal the amazing extinct creatures that caused the crash of 2008. Hatch needs to go. Because again, evidence points toward an imminent financial collapse and the destruction of American wealth income, investments, retirement, and even personal safety are now at severe risk. Washington and Wall Street have recklessly pushed the United States into the greatest financial bubble in American history. And unfortunately we are far beyond the point of no return. This bubble WILL burst just like every other one before it. It will drive millions of American families into the nightmare of poverty, homelessness, and a grim dependence on government bureaucrats the same leaders that got us into this. In the worst-case scenario, you could see soaring crime, the confiscation of your private property, and even the suspension of your civil rights.

  • Furry1993 Clearfield, UT
    June 24, 2012 12:58 p.m.

    I'm not going to vote FOR Hatch -- I don't want him and don't support him. My vote is goig to be AGAINST Liljenquist. why? Because despite how bad Hatch is, Liljenuist is ifiitely worse. I don't want to inflict Liljenquist on the Senate and on the United States, thereby again making the mistake Utah made in 2010.

  • one old man Ogden, UT
    June 24, 2012 10:22 a.m.

    Neither Hatch nor Liljenquist are the answer.

    The answer is named Scott Howell.

  • Esquire Springville, UT
    June 24, 2012 8:08 a.m.

    I'm no fan of either candidate in the primary, and but the writer's conclusion is correct. Hatch is the status quo. So decide if you like the way things are. But the writer does not understand the legislative process. A Senator is one of 100, a concept that Mike Lee has not yet figured out.

  • Apricot Tree Brigham City, UT
    June 24, 2012 6:52 a.m.

    Business as usual for Orrin Hatch is working harder than ever to preserve Utah jobs, balance budget, unite a bipartisan Senate, and represent Utah and the Nation with strength, conservative values, morals, and sway.

  • marxist Salt Lake City, UT
    June 24, 2012 1:14 a.m.

    I've noticed the negative ads against Hatch have ceased for the most part. I smell a deal between Hatch and Liljenquist. Hatch gets another term and Liljenquist is is anointed heir. Republicans do things this way.