BYU football: Cougars offer scholarship to Jordan High School sophomore-to-be quarterback

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  • truecoug1 Provo, UT
    June 21, 2012 11:21 a.m.

    @fender " BTW, dual threat QBs are often listed as athletes or defensive backs. Doesn't mean they can't or won't be playing QB at the D1 level or that their rating doesn’t include QB skills."

    Lol, really? Tell that to Tyrone Swoopes, Taysom Hill, Jihad Vercher, Jake Lloyd, etc. All dual-threat QB's being recruited as (gasp) dual-threat QB's.

    I agree with you that nobody knows if Hansen, or Hill, are going to be good D1 QB's. However, I DO know, and tried to point out to U, that Chase Hansen is currently the 4th-string QB behind Wynn (senior), Hayes (DII QB), and Wilson (freshman), that he's planning on red-shirting this year, and will leave on a mission after this year.

    Hill, meanwhile, is looked at as the 3rd string QB behind Nelson (senior) and Lark (senior). He is expected to be the starting QB for BYU next season.

    Guess we'll have to wait 3 years to see if Hansen starts at QB for Utah.

    Go Cougars!

    June 21, 2012 11:02 a.m.

    This kid will never play for BYU.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    June 21, 2012 8:27 a.m.


    Most of the time it is fun but that is not what you were attempting to do here. And no I do not "give myself way to much credit" since you are the one that brought me into it. Go look at the article about the orange county kid utah got a committment from, in that case another utah "fan" brought me into it. I am in your heads or else you wouldn't bring me up. It is fun for me however, all I ask is that there be some semblence of truth in the comments utah "fans" make. It is when there is a componenet of truth that the back and forth is more effective for each side.

  • fender Washington, UT
    June 20, 2012 7:44 p.m.


    You give yourself way too much credit. Assuming that this edited comment will pass muster, I can assure you nobody is fixated on you, but your comments about Utah football do invite a response. Most of the time it's all in fun, so you can relax and enjoy the back and forth with the rest of us.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    June 20, 2012 2:52 p.m.


    You're floundering, badly.

    Chase was not rated as qb despite your tortured attempts to claim otherwise. His ratings were as an athlete and he is a great athlete, I've aknowledged it many times. It has been reported in this paper, and the Tribune, multiple times that BYU told Chase they were not recruiting him as a qb. I don't need to "read the coaches minds" because it has been widely reported.

    I've never "ripped" the kid, not once. I am just telling you his arm is not D1 quality and no one but utah even gave him the option to try and play qb. If you can't handle that then that is your problem but let me tell you what this is really about.

    I am right. I know the kids here in this area, like Chase and Talon. I know what they have done and what they can do. You don't know anything at all about either of them other than what you have read. Talon does have a 40" vertical but you don't know it so you mock it.

    You've become a joke with your fixation on me.


  • fender Washington, UT
    June 20, 2012 1:25 p.m.


    Understand you're just tryin to bail out a brother, but it doesn’t fly. The issue isn’t whether or not one scouting site or three rate Hansen higher than Hill. One reputable site is more than enough to make my point and Hill isn’t rated higher than Hansen by any site on any basis. BTW, dual threat QBs are often listed as athletes or defensive backs. Doesn't mean they can't or won't be playing QB at the D1 level or that their rating doesn’t include QB skills. Rivals listed Riley Nelson, BYU’s current starter, as a safety, even though he was being recruited as a QB by several D1 schools.

    I have no idea if Hansen is a D1 level QB or not, and I’m not making the argument one way or the other. The point is if you're gonna rip one these athletes with comments like Duck’s, back it up with a legitimate source and don’t pretend you know what’s in the mind of a school’s coaching staff, when in fact you don't.

  • truecoug1 Provo, UT
    June 20, 2012 10:56 a.m.

    @fender "While you're busy spreading sunshine about Taysom Hill and ripping on Hansen, it might be good to point out that Hansen, as a QB, is rated higher than Hill by both by Rivals and ESPN."

    Lol, just to set the facts straight, Rivals has Hansen listed higher as an ATHLETE (#20, Hill is listed at #30 as a QB) and Scout has him listed as an OLB (#44, Hill comes in again at #30 QB). ESPN does indeed have him as a QB ranked higher than Hill.

    Two out of the three main recruiting sites don't even see him as being a QB and apparently Utah doesn't either, since I haven't seen anything indicating he'll crack the 3-deep in the QB rotation.

    No question Hansen's a good athlete and a great get for Utah, but watch your facts before you post.

    Go Cougars!

  • fender Washington, UT
    June 20, 2012 10:46 a.m.


    May well be so, but if someone is going to come on these boards and dissect one of these kids, my view is they had better be able to back it up with something. If Duck wanted to come on here and say "I've watched this kid throw and in my humble opinion I don't believe he has a D1 quality arm", I have no beef with that, but to act as though you speak the gospel truth (not to mention you imply you're speaking for the BYU coaching staff), when 2 reputable recruiting sites both say differently. No, sorry, that dog won't hunt.

  • CougarBlue Heber City, UT
    June 20, 2012 10:15 a.m.

    Rafinsure you will need to eat your words when Utah's offensive coordinator makes those same offers. You seem to be blind to the similar problems at your beloved Utah.

    June 20, 2012 9:20 a.m.

    fender, there is no question that Hansen is a fine athlete though simply through reading on these message boards I've come across discussion about the position Hansen will play in college whereas I haven't seen such discussion about Hill.

    This doesn't invalidate your statement about Hansen's superior ranking on Rivals and ESPN but, it does lead you to wonder if there are some questions about Hansen as a QB.

    June 20, 2012 9:13 a.m.

    Utah-Hawaii Alum, if BYU is in such trouble why not just let the ship sink? There really shouldn't be anything to discuss if they're in such trouble so I'd suggest that you and your buddies quit losing sleep over it.

  • fender Washington, UT
    June 19, 2012 7:51 p.m.


    So now you speak for the BYU coaching staff? Obviously you have something against Hansen, since you go out of your way to badmouth the kid every chance you get. While you're busy spreading sunshine about Taysom Hill and ripping on Hansen, it might be good to point out that Hansen, as a QB, is rated higher than Hill by both by Rivals and ESPN. I know, I know, you're gonna tell us now you know hill personally or you coached him and he has a 40" vertical and has 10 D1 scholarship offers in basketball.

  • bradleyc Layton, UT
    June 19, 2012 9:21 a.m.

    Utah-Hawaii Alum

    "Regardless, BYU is in beyond serious trouble. Honestly, they need to go Big Sky at this point. Their November schedule will not be televised."

    You seem to be jealous of BYU? Why else would you say such ridiculous things? BYU will only get better over the next few years. If I were Utah I would never play BYU in November because BYU will beat you at least 50% of the time. If I were BYu I would not play Utah early in the season because there are too many great programs who want to play BYU early in the season. There goes the rivalry... which is a mess anyway... reminds me of a civil war where people don't speak to each other for months afterwards no matter the outcome.. .Stupid game that should be done away with.. BTW.. Go Aggies.

    As far as BYU's November TV Schedule goes... If ESPN doesn't want them then BYU TV will pick them up. BYU TV is available in over 60 million homes nation wide. It's Kind of a Big Deal! Maybe a comparison of other cable channels you should do. eh?

  • kokua KAYSVILLE, UT
    June 19, 2012 8:43 a.m.

    There is a long road of prep-football to play. There are three long football season's for Kafentzis anything can happen.

    If he stays healthy and true to his early promise the kid has awesome potetial.

    Who knows what the future holds.

  • emotionalfriend sandy, UT
    June 19, 2012 2:20 a.m.

    @Uncle Sam

    I've seen two of those new Jordan kids (both of them from California) and they are pretty athletic.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    June 18, 2012 10:14 p.m.


    No I never said that, you are lying albeit in a weak attempt top mock me.

    The reason BYU didn't want Chase Hansen as a qb is because he can't throw and doesn't have a D1 quality arm which most utah "fans" found out from utah's spring practices. BYU obviously does want dual threat qb's, look at Taysom Hill who will no doubt be running over, and around, teams in a year or two while also actually being able to throw the ball down field unlike Hansen who will be playing defense for utah.

    Like navl vet you fail at your attempts ad let me tell you why so you can work on it. There has to actually be an element of truth to the things you post about other people. Since yours had no basis in truth it failed.

    I did enjoy how you made an entire post about me though, thank you. I love being in utah "fans" heads.


  • plyxply SLC, UT
    June 18, 2012 8:42 p.m.

    True Blue you're exactly right, offering first does make an impression that lasts with the kid. Good for Austin, he proved a lot of people wrong, me included, and has shown he's a serious talent.

  • Y Grad / Y Dad Richland, WA
    June 18, 2012 7:48 p.m.

    Utah-Hawaii Alum

    I know I'm breaking one of my cardinal rules by even responding to you, but I bet I see more BYU games in November, live, from my great room in Richland, WA than you see Utah games, live, in November from your easy chair in Texas.

  • bballjunkie Pleasant Grove, UT
    June 18, 2012 4:08 p.m.

    People back up and wait a minute in less than 72 hours Utah will be offering this kid...Right Kyle! or Coach Whitty!

  • Uncle Sam West Jordan, UT
    June 18, 2012 2:08 p.m.

    Jordan graduated all of their skill players last year, so they are going out of state to bring in new ones. Right now there are three new faces on campus.

  • Utah-Hawaii Alum Dallas, TX
    June 18, 2012 2:08 p.m.

    Regardless, BYU is in beyond serious trouble. Honestly, they need to go Big Sky at this point. Their November schedule will not be televised.

  • Coach Biff Lehi, UT
    June 18, 2012 1:26 p.m.


    Let the idiots blather. I was an opposing coach against this young man and I was a doubter until I saw him play. The boy has skills and his mechanics just got better as the season wore on. He's obviously coachable and I'm looking forward to what he'll do these next couple of years.

  • YOBANFA Cottonwood Heights, UT
    June 18, 2012 10:54 a.m.

    For those of you who doubt Austin, here is the inside scoop. This kid can flat out play! Learning under Coach Kjar for the next 3 years will greatly enhance his considerable talents. Kjar has sent his last two senior QB's to Utah State and to BYU. They shatter passing records in his program, he is highly knowledgable and knows how to develop QB's. Not only does this Austin throw extememly well, but he is deceptively fast on his feet.

    Austin's family is NOT LDS and he will NOT be going on a mission for the LDS church. This offer is for show only as many any elite programs have inquired about him. Coach Nussmeier Alabama's O coordinator was out here for a visit a month or two ago and visited the Beetdigger campus. Fact is EVERY program in this state and all of the elite programs will be knocking down his door after this year. Keep an eye on this years Beetdigger team they are going to be very special!

  • BlueRampage American Fork, UT
    June 18, 2012 9:35 a.m.

    I think it's too early. But an offer at this point is merely symbolic. If Brandon sees something, let's hope he is right. We are talking about the 2020 season by the time he starts at BYU.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    June 18, 2012 8:54 a.m.


    "And here's to hoping that the UofU make it to higher than 8th place in the PAC-12. You're embarrassing the other 'mid majors' by flopping in the big league."

    I think what you MEANT to say, in your own frantic and emotional way that is, "I hope the UofU finishes lower than last year's SIXTH place, because they've embarrassed the cougars. First by getting invited to a relevant conference while we got stuck back in the WAC, and then AGAIN by pounding us -- at Home no less -- 54-10, and in front of a national audience."

    Sad, green-with-envy, mid-majorey coug.

  • Go Utes! Springville, UT
    June 18, 2012 6:38 a.m.

    UtahUte16 has it right, make sure this kid has good coaching in the Jav, it is extremely stressful on the body and if you dont do it right you can seriously injure yourself. I saw that throw too, it was incredible, he has major potential in track and field, but if football is where your heart is you should be really careful about injuries.

  • BlueNtheFace Rancho Cucamonga, CA
    June 17, 2012 11:53 p.m.

    Mightymite: He can go on a mission any time he wants before he turns 25. What does being offered a scholarship have to do with that? And the BYU coaches already addressed the pressure this may cause the normal recruit. Re-read the article. I think your main problem is WHO is recruiting him and the personal issues you have with that school.

    markymark: He threw 23 TDs and 19 INTs. A lot of INTs but understandable for a young QB entering big boy football (12 INTs in his first 6 games). Sorenson is already taken, not available. Why bring him up in a recruiting article? Also, even if Jordan is 5-10, I wouldn't be surprised if he grew another 3 or 4 inches in 3 years. Would you? Good luck on your prediction on this year's game. And here's to hoping that the UofU make it to higher than 8th place in the PAC-12. You're embarrassing the other "mid majors" by flopping in the big league.

    Go Cougs.

  • markymark HERRIMAN, UT
    June 17, 2012 11:08 p.m.

    The cougar fan in texas must have overlooked the INTs in the stats. I can't remember them exactly but he threw about 21 TDs and 25 INTs. I might be a little off but he had over 20 for sure. Not to mention he is about 5'10", i know the roster might say he's 6'1" but he isn't even close. His mechanics are bad too. Those will get better with time working with the coach at Jordan who is a really good QB coach. BYU already has a guy like this in alex kuresa, same with the starter. As long as they keep playing and recruiting guys like this they will be a mediocre team like they have been the last few years. The best college qb in the state is the Sorensen kid at SUU, not even a debate. I know all the Y homers want to think they are getting better but they are getting worse. The U will beat them by 50 again.

  • Winglish Lehi, UT
    June 17, 2012 10:57 p.m.

    Just to correct CougFaninTX, Jamal Willis played for BYU from 1991-1994. He was a record setting running back for the Cougars and is remembered fondly. He also played for the '49ers if I'm not mistaken. BYU recruit Jamaal Williams is the guy who looks to be a pretty good future asset for BYU. Just to set the record straight :)

  • CougFaninTX Frisco, TX
    June 17, 2012 4:08 p.m.

    @rafinsure - Offering a scholorship to a Freshman is rare. But a Freshman who puts up these kind of numbers is also rare. He has proven he can play D1 at an early age, why not offer him now. Look at some of the top talent and there are many of them that are offered early in their high school years. BYU needs to recruit WR? Apo and Hoffman may be best book end WRs in the Western US the next two years. Josh Weeks and Dylan Collie in the pipeline look pretty bright also. Jamal Willis will be a nice addition at RB, and if Juice reaches his potential this year or next year - watch out.

    @williary - If BYU is not interested in dual threat QBs, why do they have Riley Nelson, Taysom Hill and Ammon Olsen? Hansen chose U because U offered him as a QB, and Y offered him as a LB. If BYU saw him as a dual threat QB who had a chance of starting, the recruiting could have looked much different. Whit is famous for moving QBs and Hansen is much more likely to see action on the D side, even for U.

  • Y Grad / Y Dad Richland, WA
    June 17, 2012 3:52 p.m.

    Timing is everything Williary. Chase woulda been one more horse in a stable full of stallions. This kid is the start of the next generation of qbs.

  • williary Kearns, UT
    June 17, 2012 1:00 p.m.

    Impossible. Duckhunter has told us time and time again that BYU is not interested in these Dual-Threat QB's. Otherwise, they would have scooped up Chase Hansen last year, instead of letting him go to Utah.

    Right Ducky!

  • xert Santa Monica, CA
    June 17, 2012 12:20 p.m.

    Anyone who has ever experienced blowback from pushing a kid too fast will testify to the fact that the results can be ugly and the road along the way to the results might not be too pretty either. But what the heck, right? It's football and football is what is important to us a nation. Kids are cheap, a BCS bowl bid is very, very expensive.

  • UtahUte16 Salt Lake City, UT
    June 17, 2012 12:09 p.m.

    I saw that this young man threw javelin this last track and field season, he obviously has a huge arm. But, if you plan on pursuing a college QB career, I would be careful with throwing jav. Believe it or not, javelin seriously messes people's bodies up all the time. If you have the proper instruction, you will probably be okay. But if you're just going out there and hucking it, you will ruin your arm. I started throwing the jav my senior year and strained a ligament by my elbow and to this day if I throw something hard it can be very painful, my arm will never be the same. Keep that arm healthy, kid!

  • nothegame Saratoga Springs, UT
    June 17, 2012 10:27 a.m.

    Why not graduate early. There is no reason to play 3 more years. He has proven he can play now. Playing more than 2 more years isn't a risk worth taking.

  • TrueBlue Orem, UT
    June 17, 2012 9:53 a.m.

    Great decision by Brandon to make a promising young talent like Austin Kafentzis an early scholarship offer - it means that BYU will be on Austin's radar for the next three years.

    And, never discount the lasting positive impression that can be created by being the first team to offer a young player a scholarship.

    Brandon is going to be a great Offensive Coordinator; the naysayers are simply demonstrating their lack of vision and understanding of the game.

  • idablu Idaho Falls, ID
    June 17, 2012 8:49 a.m.

    I don't quite understand the advantage being the first to offer, especially at such an early age. A lot can happen in the next 3 years. I realize there are offers extended as early as 6th grade, but I just don't see that it does the kid or the school any good.

  • rafinsure Elk Grove/U.S.A., 00
    June 17, 2012 12:28 a.m.

    I'm sorry. This kid is entering his sophomore year. So, he has three years to possibly crash and burn. Really? You offer a kid a scholarship who's not even a junior.

  • rafinsure Elk Grove/U.S.A., 00
    June 17, 2012 12:26 a.m.

    It's obvious that Brandon Doman is a rookie offensive coordinator. Mendenhall should have begged and pleaded with Norm Chow to come back. I think it's a bit much to offer a sophomore a scholarship. You never know whether or not the kid will crash and burn over the next two years. Furthermore, BYU recruits quarterbacks like they're going out of style. BYU needs to focus on improving its offensive line, wide receivers and running backs in order to stay competitive. Finally, the secondary needs to improve as well.