Obama acts to halt deportations, politics ensues

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  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    June 19, 2012 12:59 p.m.

    1. This is nothing more or less than desperation by Obama. Trying to shore up his liberal base. Amnesty isn't going to wash with independent voters.
    2. Obama seems to forget he is required to work WITH congress and get their approval. Obama sees the constitution and congress as road blocks to his agenda.
    3. It is interesting to note that every time Obama's poll numbers start to lag he creates some controversy or he tries to give away the store to buy votes. The man is a boat with no rudder - an empty suit with no spine. Everything - and I mean everything - is politically motivated to buy votes. The man is as shallow as a mud puddle.

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    June 18, 2012 3:35 p.m.

    Yes yes yes our great and predictable campaigner n chief announces this immigration change (bypassing congress of course) just before the election. This character never changes and will do ANYTHING to steal votes. Yes it's all about the election with Barack - never about governing. What a disgrace to America this man is.

  • Badger55 Nibley, Ut
    June 17, 2012 9:23 p.m.

    my two cents worth and 1.cee,
    I think illegal immigration morphs in a heated debate because a lot of legal immigrants i talk to and also some on this thread express frustration with giving a free pass to illegal immigrants when they had to go through the rigors of legally becoming a citizen. And frankly, I tend to agree with them. Its interesting how Obama preaches fairness, but this is not fair to those waiting outside the US to become a citizen.

  • William Gronberg Payson, UT
    June 16, 2012 9:41 p.m.

    BO could also represent "Borin Orrin" or Butch Otter (the Idaho governor). Neither passes the respect test.

  • William Gronberg Payson, UT
    June 16, 2012 7:32 p.m.

    Monday thru Friday-no BO. Interesting.

    Your employer's own stated policy includes the following.

    "Treat other readers (substitute the word persons for readers) as you would if you were speaking to them from a microphone, looking them in the eyes, then passing the microphone cordially to the next contributor."

  • l.cee Ridgefield, WA
    June 16, 2012 7:07 p.m.

    Looks like we are splitting again down into two factions: The ME group and the WE group.

    The ME group hates that any of their taxes go to help people. Of course they are the first to want something for themselves--like Medicare, free roads, free fire and police coverage, freedom to hate, etc. The radicals in the ME group want to throw out the government--as if that will open up the free things.

    The WE group cares about his/her community, the people around him/her and realizes that it takes some sharing of his money to pay for amenities. The WE group wants to find solutions to help the whole.

    What group do you belong in when you get mad at helping young Mexicans get an education?

  • my two cents worth Ridgefield, WA
    June 16, 2012 6:58 p.m.

    Why does this issue of Illegal Immigration seem to morph to hate talk about Latinos in general?

    Oh that's right, Latinos (Mexicans in particular), blacks, Muslims, Arabs, etc. are all in the category of "OTHER" and we don't want to be liking them because they are different than US, now do we?

    Of course, that is the ridiculous (and sometimes malicious) way of looking at God's children.

    Can we just get along? What's wrong with helping out those who need it? What's wrong with helping those who are here illegally where they had no choice in being here in the first place. Is that what good Christians like us stand for?

  • the truth Holladay, UT
    June 16, 2012 5:56 p.m.

    RE: atl134

    Rubio proposed this?

    Did he propose doing an end round the constitution like Obama?

    or using constitutional means to deal with it?

    That is the issue here.

    Doing things the constitutional way or becoming a dictator and just doing whatever Obama wants to do.

    It you allow the constitution to be trodden over then you are giving the next president the same power, and that president may be a from different political party. In other words are willing to give Romney the same power? Because he will inherit it.

  • lost in DC West Jordan, UT
    June 16, 2012 4:41 p.m.

    I hadn't heard Rubio proposing this.

    Blacks should be up in arms - just goes to show how much BO and the dems take the black vote for granted. Unemployment among black teens is over 50%, and now BO is giving illegal teens work permits. When will blacks wake up and recognize the dems for what they are - overseers?

  • legalimmigrant Springville, Utah
    June 16, 2012 4:10 p.m.

    Agreed, Fitness Freak, I am Hispanic and a legal immigrant, and I do not support any form of amnesty for illegal aliens. I have one simple question for all those who support Obama's decision: how in the world do you expect future immigrants to come legally when our own government shows this blatant disregard for our immigration laws under the excuse of 'compassion'? Children should not be punished for their parent's crimes, but they should not be rewarded either.

  • Millsap fan Taylorsville, UT
    June 16, 2012 4:04 p.m.

    Sounds like a generous thing to do, but he went about it in the wrong way. My hope is that Romney will be president and iron out the kinks of this issue. Just one more thing Romney would have to change and get done correctly because Obama has taken shortcut after shortcut in doing the right thing to get votes. Hopefully Romney will take the few good ideas obama has used and put them into practical long term use, rather than do more short term political stints.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    June 16, 2012 1:54 p.m.

    I made a mistake. During the 2008 campaign Obama said he was going to lower the unemployment rate.

    I thought it was for the people of our country.

    We've been betrayed by our leaders with a leaking border, and soon we'll all have a level playing field where everyone will have an equal shot for poverty. It's happening folks.

    I don't know why people crave this, but Obama may win re-election, and we'll become another Cuba.

  • freedomfighter Provo, UT
    June 16, 2012 1:47 p.m.

    It's just an executive order that can, and probably will, be rescinded when the next president comes around. Could this then actually end up being harmful for the people who come out to the government as being illegal? Who's to say this won't come back to haunt them in the future?

    I like the idea of the law, but Congress needs to get its act together and actually do something. Illegals brought here as children and who've been exemplary citizens shouldn't be punished for something that was beyond their control. Ten years they've been debating this and nothing. What a shame.

  • atl134 Salt Lake City, UT
    June 16, 2012 1:32 p.m.

    Conservatives didn't seem to have much of a problem when it was VP frontrunner Marco Rubio proposing basically this.

  • J-TX Allen, TX
    June 16, 2012 1:07 p.m.

    "In the past two weeks, undocumented students have staged protests at Obama campaign offices in Charlotte, N.C., Denver and Oakland, Calif."

    Pandering? NO! I guess he will support any minority that yells loud enough.

    If everyone knew they were undocumented, why didn't ICE swoop in and raid these protests?

    Where are MY rights? As a 50-year old, tax-paying, law abiding white male citizen, I have become so marginalized as to be irrelevant, and it sickens me. How can I pursue happiness when I have to support illegal aliens, illegal activities, insurance fraud, tax fraud and every other drain on society that is a direct result of the illegal immigration morass?

    Oh yeah..... election year....

    So you al don't think I'm some bigoted jerk - I love the Mexican people, speak fluent Spanish and travel to Mexico for work every month. I encourage legal immigration, but deplore law-breaking leeching.

  • AZRods Maricopa, AZ
    June 16, 2012 12:09 p.m.

    I think endoferror has the big picture.
    The autocratic move of President Obama is frightening in that it leaves us not knowing what he might do next that would further bypass the constitution. Obama care follows the same pattern when you see that it would require all citizens to purchase it or be subject to severe fines.
    I want a kinder more merciful immigration law as much as any one I know. But not at the expense of trampling the constitution.
    Because it only gets easier and easier, and people will cry out less and less and we become convinced that there is nothing we can do about it.
    This presidential election is truly becoming a vote for America and the constitution. A vote for Christian lifestyles and a vote for an economy that is based on less government, less debt and less bailouts.

  • A1994 Centerville, UT
    June 16, 2012 12:02 p.m.

    Baby steps to November. Baby steps to November.

  • Fitness Freak Salt Lake City, UT
    June 16, 2012 11:33 a.m.

    Its a sad day for LEGAL American citizens. That includes LEGAL hispanic voters.

    Most legal hispanic voters don't want to support the freeloaders any more than the rest of us.

    Those of us who follow the illegal immigration issue pretty much expected something like this from the Obama administration, but we thought it would be closer to the election.

    The NEXT thing we need to know is if Romney will reverse this action his first day in office?

  • Third try screen name Mapleton, UT
    June 16, 2012 11:30 a.m.

    This is an Obama campaign stunt.
    Read the fine print. What it says is that immigration judges have discretionary latitude to forestall deportation and grant temporary work permits to teens and young adults who have grown up here and would suffer hardship if deported.
    Guess what? The BIA judges already have that latitude. We had a case like that in the news recently. But the two year reprieve expired and they were facing deportation.
    Obama has actually suggested limiting that latitude with conditions about age and scholastic status.
    To be sure, he wants to poke the camel's nose further under the tent. These brown-eyed high school students are just good poster children for amnesty.
    But he's offered nothing of substance here.
    Romney was a fool to respond in kind. He should have simply called it a political ploy, shamed Obama for using children as human shields and moved back to talking about the lousy economy.

  • EndOfAnError-01/20/2013 Atlanta, GA
    June 16, 2012 11:12 a.m.

    I find it interesting that some are willing to support the president when he bypasses Congress and implements laws they agree with such as this one. However, what will they think when he (or his successor) uses that same power to implement laws to which they disagree? If we allow THIS president to make his own laws then we must be prepared for ALL future presidents to do the same. Do we really want to have a King or Dictator ruling over us?

    The Constitution is becoming irrelevant because WE THE PEOPLE are allowing it to happen. If we do not stop this we will someday have no say in how we are governed. Instead of ours being a "Government of the People" we will instead become the "People of the Government."

  • Bob Rooney Murray, UT
    June 16, 2012 10:08 a.m.

    Obama's Amnesty Is Unconstitutional, Disaster for Unemployed.
    If you against any kind of Amnesty, go to this website and register.
    Google this: NUMBERSUSA. Once you are registered, go to the "action board"

  • smarty pants Herriman, UT
    June 16, 2012 10:04 a.m.

    It's just too bad that Obama is doing this on the election year. You shouldn't worry about the latino votes when they cannot even vote for him. The only way to vote is being a citizen. After being a permanent resident for the last 6 years I finally became a U.S citizen last year. And my vote goes to Romney!

  • TOO Sanpete, UT
    June 16, 2012 9:51 a.m.

    John C. C.

    Maybe because it's illegal. Since when does the President have the authority to just pass a law without a vote? This whole thing is unconstitutional. There are boundaries and laws that even this rock star needs to obey.

    Why does congress not do anything about this? This is UNCONSTITUTIONAL. Vote!

  • Brother Chuck Schroeder A Tropical Paradise USA, FL
    June 16, 2012 9:40 a.m.

    Obama is in full panic mode. He's not keeping his powder dry until the fall. He is not. Why? Because people are paying attention. And we don't like what we're seeing or what we're getting from Obama. First the churches, then women, then Bain Capital, then gays and now this. They're just throwing everything up against the wall. They are looking at ways to grant amnesty en masse without legislation. Arizona Governor Jan Brewer and Sheriff Joe Arpaio joined Arizona talk show host Mike Broomhead today in two separate segments to discuss the President's decision to selectively enforce immigration law a decision which Brewer said has the status of law even though it actively contradicts the law. Obama and presumptive GOP nominee Mitt Romney offered a clear preview of the type of campaigns they intend to run against each other. And they made them in defiance of a week of protests from influential voices in their own parties who urged them both to offer voters forward-thinking solutions.

    That's why the GOP political party can't seem to pull it together.

    They are "lost in space" somewhere out there.

    My views.

  • John C. C. Payson, UT
    June 16, 2012 9:27 a.m.

    This is a great move. I'm sad my Republican Party is opposing it.

  • Captain Kirk Lehi, UT
    June 16, 2012 9:24 a.m.

    I probably agree with the outcome of Obama's order but I can't agree with how it was done and it is obviously just pandering for votes. He is such a weak leader.
    Illegals are here. Some have been here all their lives. They are not just going to go away. Leaving them in illegal status creates an underclass. We need to find a way to make them productive and legal.
    It is a complicated and difficult issue. We either need to kick them out or dry up their ability to function and live here so they go back on their own OR we need to give then a way to be legal.
    I personally don't like the idea of mass deportations but I can understand it. Unless you secure the borders they will just come back. Securing the border is not that easy. And I don't really want to live in a country where people are hunted down in mass by police. I believe in a melting pot. Speak English, integrate, work hard and I have no problem with immigrants. We need permanent policies to promote these things.

  • iron&clay RIVERTON, UT
    June 16, 2012 9:17 a.m.

    The immigration "problem " is solved just as soon as our neighbors to the south allow the same kind of individual and economic rights as guaranteed to the citizens of the US by our Constituiion.

    Joseph Smith prophesied that all of north and south america would some day be called Zion, or in other words would have the US constitution, which he referred to as a heavenly banner, reign throughout the western hemisphere.

  • t702 Las Vegas, NV
    June 16, 2012 9:09 a.m.

    just another desperate attempt to divert attention from his failed policy.

  • JayTee Sandy, UT
    June 16, 2012 9:07 a.m.

    I'm one of many who desperately hope we can soon say goodbye to the worst president in the history of the country. Many were skeptical when he was the most liberal member of congress and nobody really knew much about him other than that. But now, after 3 1/2 years of sheer foolishness, abuse of office and authority, and seemingly doing everything in his power to embarrass and diminish the country, it's citizens, it's workers, and it's taxpayers, it doesn't take a mental giant to figure out that this is one liability we simply can't afford to keep. This year we'll find out just how qualified the voters are as well.

  • Nana Sid West Jordan, UT
    June 16, 2012 9:01 a.m.

    I've been waiting for a long time to see someone begin to fix the immigration problem. Too bad my political party can't seem to pull it together.

  • Deserthiker SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    June 16, 2012 8:32 a.m.

    While I agree with this narrow policy decision, it is a drop in the ocean of solving our larger immigration policy problems. Sadly the timing of Obama's announcement makes it clear that his real motive is political. He could have addressed this problem at any time during his presidency. Real support for immigration reform would have meant proposing a comprehensive policy then exercising presidential leadership to push it through congress. On the very real issues that face us today- Budget deficits, Social Security and Medicare reform, Immigration policy, Economic recovery and job creation- Obama has failed to propose any real plan and instead substituted blame shifting, diversion, and crass political gimmickry. We desperately need real leadership not political gamesmanship.

  • TA1 Alexandria, VA
    June 16, 2012 7:35 a.m.

    While it would have been better had Congress done something to help those who came here aas children and through no fault of their own, are here illegally (and typical of Congress - did nothing), right now this seems to represent one of the best examples I have seen in a long time of Justice tempered by Mercy. Perhaps we could all learn how to apply this principle in our own lives.

  • Cats Somewhere in Time, UT
    June 16, 2012 7:18 a.m.

    Election year politics. Nothing more. Nothing less.

  • Eli Tesecular PhD Salt Lake City, UT
    June 16, 2012 6:50 a.m.

    Seriously, why bother electing all those superfluous congress people? I love the idea of President Obama changing and creating laws on the spot. It saves time and avoids all that icky democracy junk.

    Who is for him fixing the 22nd amendment? I, for one!

  • Say No to BO Mapleton, UT
    June 16, 2012 6:11 a.m.

    Obama is part of the problem. We got in this mess (and many others) because the government can't say "No."
    Of course, we have plenty of jobs to go around so it shouldn't be too bad, right? Oh wait, we've got a huge unemployed teen problem and college grads who can't find work.

  • N.C.Y. Iowa City, IA
    June 16, 2012 1:39 a.m.

    He'd better do something for voters. He's leaked sensitive national security items, has an attorney general who thinks he is above the law, forced a health care law that nobody likes, has driven the work force into the ground, he has hurt every segement of america, screamed against big corporations but then bails them out etc. The Obama ship in sinking fast. I'm just wondering why he didn't do something like this 4 years ago. It's not like it's a new problem.

  • Hutterite American Fork, UT
    June 16, 2012 12:23 a.m.

    Reality is becoming a place to which the GOP more and more cannot go.