Administration's immigration announcement presents challenges to Republicans, Obama

Iowa Rep. Steve King plans to sue administration to halt implementation

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  • Badger55 Nibley, Ut
    June 17, 2012 7:25 p.m.


    "With respect to the notion that I can just suspend deportations through executive order, that’s just not the case, because there are laws on the books that Congress has passed."
    -Barack Obama
    March 27, 2011

    Seems to not only contradict what you say, but also what he did this week.

  • Transaction7 Commerce, Texas
    June 15, 2012 8:38 p.m.

    Hate to admit it but Obama has pulled off the political move of this election cycle, and yes, under the President's absolute pardon power provided by the Constitution, he does have all the Constitutional authority he needs to do this and more in this area of the law. Technically, he could just pardon all the illegal immigrants in America except that really would create a purely political backlash. See also the President's foreign relations power.

    The statutes of limitations would protect bank robbers, child abusers, and crooked politicians but not someone brought here as a small child who has done no wrongful or illegal act.

    JFK family member & adviser Theodore Sorenson said publicly about 1959 that we would see these millions of Hispanics stream across our border and do nothing about it, and no President or Congress has until now.

  • JayTee Sandy, UT
    June 15, 2012 5:51 p.m.

    Obama is helping out intelligent, thinking, freedom-loving voters because he is very consistent--consistently wrong. Every single policy he embraces is dangerous to this country and its future, and this one is right in there among the worst. We're spending trillions we don't have trying to structure and change the other side of the planet by invading small third-world nations and killing their peasants in unconstitutional, unaffordable, unwinnable "wars" . . . yet we fail to control or stop the unfettered invasion of our own homeland. It's astounding, and dismal to the extreme. I used to wonder how Germany went so wrong so fast under the Hitler regime, but now it's easy to see how this can happen. All you need is a fast-talking, evidently charismatic person at the helm promising to give everyone everything they ever wanted with no price to pay, and you can rapidly begin that slide into oblivion. It's happening, and we can't get this guy out of Washington fast enough. Let's see if Americans are smart enough to do it.

  • dlw7 LOGAN, UT
    June 15, 2012 4:49 p.m.

    Do we not have an immigration policy in place? The problem, it would seem, is that it is not being enforced and people are looking for a way to circumvent it. This immigration mess should have been dealt with long ago. Our borders are a big joke. There should be a sign there saying, "Just walk in. Everybody welcome. Apply for assistance at the nearest State Welfare Office" because that is what is happening. Nobody want to offend anybody, so anything goes.

  • SLars Provo, UT
    June 15, 2012 4:09 p.m.

    Congress is nonfunctional because we don't have a consensus builder in the White house. He can't work with others, he plays by himself.

    I wonder how many people use the compassion game to get a surplus of labor?

  • Happy Valley Heretic Orem, UT
    June 15, 2012 3:42 p.m.

    The Utah Republican:
    Immigration status has the same legal weight as driving the speed limit on the freeway.
    This executive order is A LOT more conservative than Reagan's amnesty. The reason it's an executive order is because this congress is non-functional.

    Your absolutely right, and a Utah republican, there is hope!

    LDS I would agree, to bad so many posters above are more loyal to a political party and racism than their religious bantering would suggest.

  • SLars Provo, UT
    June 15, 2012 3:41 p.m.

    Obama gives in to Hispanic blackmail.

    Time for the boys in Afghanistan to pack up, come home, and fight for their jobs and America.

    Reagan signed a bill that passed both houses of Congress. Obama ignored congress.

    This is a legal issue, not a religious one. God told us to obey the laws of the land. Those here illegally and the business community that hires them are not listening to God. Start putting the camel through the eye of the needle.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    June 15, 2012 3:35 p.m.

    How is this fixing the economy? First gay marriage and now legalizing immigration.

    When are we going to see the deficit cut in half, or less unemployment? Let's fix our house before tackling the neighborhood.

  • atl134 Salt Lake City, UT
    June 15, 2012 3:35 p.m.

    "I don't know of any who are Pro-Legal immigration who think only Hispanics are illegal immigrants."

    I was responding to someone who claimed that immigrants from Europe Africa and Asia were being pushed aside in favor of fence-crossers which to me suggested a mindset of illegal immigrants being at least almost entirely Hispanic.

  • LDS Cedar City, UT
    June 15, 2012 3:21 p.m.

    Many of our American-Mexican neighbors are as much citizens of our communities and country as we are. They work hard for a better future. They pay taxes, contribute to important institutions (eg. church, youth sports, community efforts, etc.). We need to look inwardly and acknowledge we got here only by the grace of a loving Heavenly Father. We must extend all the support, love and dignity we have to those less fortunate. Elsewise what will be worthy of?

  • The Utah Republican Alpine, UT
    June 15, 2012 3:17 p.m.

    Immigration status has the same legal weight as driving the speed limit on the freeway.

    This executive order is A LOT more conservative than Reagan's amnesty. The reason it's an executive order is because this congress is non-functional.

    Republicans are supposed to believe that market forces should drive economic policy. The market demands and has demanded low cost immigrant labor FOR THE HISTORY of the Republic.

    What a shame that Obama did the right thing when the so called Republican party refused to. They played into his hands and gave him the hispanic vote. Reagan knew how to extend the stakes of the big tent. The art is lost on our current Republican leadership.

  • RichardB Murray, UT
    June 15, 2012 3:05 p.m.


    They are not law abiding, the law requires children brought here to return home between 18 and 18.5 and come back legally on a student or work visa. They are moved to the front of the line. In order to qualify for this, they must be lawbreakers. If they worked, they are felons. Saying they did not break the law is wrong.

    There is no such thing as a law-abiding illegal immigrant.

  • Hunt Spanish Fork, UT
    June 15, 2012 2:41 p.m.

    "The extension of Constitutional freedoms to all law-abiding established residents is a must."

    Please explain to me how you can make the jump from illegal immigrant to law-abiding established resident. Just to live in this country most illegals break multiple laws and a majority have committed felonies. By definition, a law-abiding established resident immigrated through legal channels and continues to maintain their legal status as long as they choose to live here.


    "How about how it's racist and discriminatory to think only Hispanics are illegal immigrants?"

    We all agree with you on that point, so what point are you trying to make? I don't know of any who are Pro-Legal immigration who think only Hispanics are illegal immigrants.

  • Brother Chuck Schroeder A Tropical Paradise USA, FL
    June 15, 2012 1:55 p.m.

    Sorry if I don't sound like the "Prophet of Love" here, my views.

    American's should never allow any reward to undocumented immigrants and encourage continued illegal immigration. Obama should use his executive authority to halt the deportations of undocumented young immigrants who would be eligible for the Dream Act?. Romney isn't the only member of the GOP out to get the Republicans a slice of the growing Latino voter pie. Florida Sen. Marco Rubio, rumored to be on Romney's short list for vice president, isn't waiting for the VEEP nod to start shaping a pro-immigration image for his party. WE ALL KNOW the DREAM Act is a bad idea, it's nothing more then amnesty for illegal aliens. Republican Senator Orrin Hatch was one of the original sponsors of the DREAM Act when it was first introduced in 2001. Orrin Hatch from Utah one of the original architects of the DREAM Act spoke up in favor of it at a townhall meeting. Latinos target key swing Presidential states. Petition for Rubio to support Sen. Hatch Sponsored DREAM Act before 2012 elections. Our nation's immigration laws must be enforced in a strong manner.

    June 15, 2012 1:48 p.m.

    When they tried to pass the Dream act last year the congressional budget office said 2 million were eligible. The 800,000 is incorrect. Obama just gave amnesty to 2 million criminals that refused to go home and come back legally under the law.

    Our constitution hangs by a thread, America is being stolen.

  • atl134 Salt Lake City, UT
    June 15, 2012 1:48 p.m.

    @Liberal Ted
    About a third of illegal immigrants come in via airports and overstay visas. How about how it's racist and discriminatory to think only Hispanics are illegal immigrants?

  • Littlebit Salt Lake City, UT
    June 15, 2012 1:44 p.m.

    Does the President really have this much power to make such a major decision single-handedly? What a self-serving, egotistical maneuver to gain votes for himself.

  • m.g. scott LAYTON, UT
    June 15, 2012 1:44 p.m.

    I hate the way liberals and Democrats use race to divide this country. Right now the Obama people are admitting that they are going for the ethnic vote in a pandering fashion. America can only work and have a viable future if citizens look at themselves first as Americans and not as "fill in the blank" Americans. Sadly, it seems this country is becoming more and more divided by this kind of PC thinking. And Obama sure has not helped.

  • Liberal Ted Salt Lake City, UT
    June 15, 2012 1:12 p.m.

    Interesting that the bo hasn't been questioned on the how this idea (which is not law or have an executive order signed), is how it is racists and discriminatory to those who are not able to just jump over a fence or higher a coyote to take them across. What about people in Africa, Asia, Europe etc that can't just hop a fence and enter this country. Interesting that we can discriminate against those people, but, turn a blind eye to another group of people.

    I propose then that anyone who went through the system legally. Effective immediately be given a financial reimbursement for their costs of becoming a legal citizen, paid by the democrats. Make it retroactive for anyone that had an ancestor that entered this country over the past 200 years. Mitt can sign the executive order forcing the DNC to reimburse everyone else. If they run out then lets hit up the unions. It's time for those who are responsible for this to pay for their crimes.

  • ute alumni Tengoku, UT
    June 15, 2012 1:05 p.m.

    If you are an american in your mind, you are an! that's hope and change. glad the C.O. has a new litmus test for citizenship. he can't help himself. how many people feel american? the US population just tripled.

  • ute alumni Tengoku, UT
    June 15, 2012 12:57 p.m.

    obama doesn't have a leadership bone in his body. this is ALL about going after the latino vote. he is shameless. sorry community organizer. we aren't stupid, this won't work keep it up.

  • carman Wasatch Front, UT
    June 15, 2012 12:12 p.m.

    It isn't wise for the President to make unilateral policy decisions on such an important and devisive issue. He should be building a coalition with broader support. This is just more divisive politics that is being used to try and win the Presidency. My bet is that this will backfire.

  • LDS Cedar City, UT
    June 15, 2012 12:09 p.m.

    This is the right thing to do. Regardless of party, ideology, or cultural heritage, we Americans believe in freedom, compassion and pragmatic leadership. This decision is true leadership.

    However, it falls short of the needed greater solution to immigration reform. That solution will require great leadership. The extension of Constitutional freedoms to all law-abiding established residents is a must.

  • ute alumni Tengoku, UT
    June 15, 2012 12:08 p.m.

    yomam: how do you spell constitution? this guy circumvents congress anytime he can. he needs to be stopped. utah's delegation including matheson need to lead the charge.