Dick Harmon: Dick Harmon: Offseason conditioning pleases BYU offensive coordinator Brandon Doman

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  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    June 15, 2012 9:48 p.m.


    To quote one of the more prolific utah "fans" around here:

    "what a frantic and emotional reply"


  • Utah-Hawaii Alum Dallas, TX
    June 15, 2012 7:23 p.m.

    Get married and eat too many carbs is what happens at BYU.

  • utahcountyute Cedar Hills, UT
    June 15, 2012 8:52 a.m.


    "we all know they attained #1 with a weaker schedule than they play this coming season."

    -Glad at atleast 1 byU "fan" admits it. Well said Duck. You call it "bias" but it is fact that byU's schedule is loaded with cupcakes and therefore impossible to reach #2 even if undefeated. There will be (2) SEC teams, a (1) loss ND, and (2) PAC 12 teams ahead of them every year no matter how many wins they have.

    "An undefeated BYU has a much greater chance of occuring than a utah team with less than 3 losses"

    -To your point, byU has no chance of going undefeated next year or "ever again" Atleast until the rivalry is over:)

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    June 14, 2012 10:53 p.m.


    There is no way utah "wins out", that is the point. It is far more likely for BYU to go undefeated and be ranked in the top 2 than it is for utah. Maybe bias would keep BYU out of the top 2. Maybe strength of schedule would keep them out although we all know they attained #1 with a weaker schedule than they play this coming season. But utah going undefeated ever again is more than a long shot, it is pretty much not going to happen. An undefeated BYU has a much greater chance of occuring than a utah team with less than 3 losses.

  • xert Santa Monica, CA
    June 14, 2012 10:31 a.m.

    Wayne--I like your posts! You seem to be an honest guy who doesn't live in a bubble. You should switch to the Utes for one season and see if you don't like it better. And send some more Texas recruits of the Eric Rowe variety our way!

  • fender Washington, UT
    June 13, 2012 8:19 p.m.


    Love how you completely ignored 2/3 of the issue. Here's the inconvenient reality for BYU: it won't be in the Rose Bowl and won't be competing for a PAC 12 championship. That's a sure thing. It's not likely, but certainly possible for Utah. As for your point that BYU is more likely to be a number 1 or 2. BYU could win all its games and still not be top 2. Only ND will be ranked in any credible top 25 preseason poll. Utah will be playing the preseason number 1 team at home and more than likely a top 10 or top 5 team in the PAC 12 championship (Oregon will be preseason top 10 and Stanford in top 25), if it were to win south division. Almost no way Utah wins out and isn't in top 2.

  • Two For Flinching Salt Lake City, UT
    June 13, 2012 8:04 p.m.

    @ Duckhunter

    BYU does not have a better chance than Utah to finish in the top two because of the strength (of lack thereof) of its late season schedule. The fact is pollsters are biased and tend to favor their conference and there is no way an indy team is going to skate though November and not be punished in the polls. Especially if a berth in the NCG is on the line. BYU would probably take a hit in the computers as well due to their lower SOS ranking.

    On the other hand if Utah goes undefeated the worst the Utes can do is play in the Rose bowl and there would be a very real chance they could be in the mix for the title game.

    However, like you said its a long shot for both schools, but don't pretend like BYU has the same access to the top tier bowl games as Utah does.

  • BigCougar Bountiful, UT
    June 13, 2012 7:41 p.m.

    @Navel Lint
    "ESPN published a "what if" scenerio as to who would be in the Final Four had that system been implemented all along, and both the '04 and '08 Utes would have been included under the "Conference Champions Only" model."

    Ifs and buts were candy and nuts...ESPN doesn't determine where you're ranked and if a 4 slot National Championship playoff had been the model then you can be assured that the decision makers behind it would have orchestrated the polls accordingly to keep the MWC champ out and get someone from another conference in ahead of Utah.

    We saw that happen in 08 when undefeated Utah couldn't leapfrog ahead of teams with losses ranked higher than them.They were able to make sure you were kept out of a shot at playing in the National Championship game under that 2 team model, why do you think they'd change all of a sudden and welcome you with open arms in a 4 team model? They did it to Utah twice, that's the start of a pattern.

  • BigCougar Bountiful, UT
    June 13, 2012 7:28 p.m.

    @Navel Lint
    "Last year's television contract was inked a decade before Utah was invited. We were lucky to get even ONE nationally televised game on the Pac-12's old TV deal since those games were ALREADY reserved for the all the OTHER teams not-named Utah and Colorado."

    Save it Navel Lint, nobody's buying the excuse. A contract gets signed in advance but the matchups and time slots don't get set in stone and announced until just before the season so that the networks can be sure they're getting the best matchups in the most advantageous time slots. They always have the flexibility to change coverage times and dates on the fly as well.

    I'm sure you hate to hear the truth, but even your game with USC wasn't deemed worthy of ESPN yet they aired several Colorado and Utah St games last year. USC's considerable rating's prowess was only enough to get your game on Versus and not even ESPNU (yet BYU's Rugby team had enough cache to get a game on ESPNU).

    You should have thought that excuse through a little better, it hurt your already questionable credibility.

  • BigCougar Bountiful, UT
    June 13, 2012 7:11 p.m.

    @Ernest T dum Bass

    "and the NFL players we put in the NFL proofs it."

    wow, great comment. Sending NFL players to the NFL...Do these "NFL Players" get drafted into the NFL or how does that work? Also, if they're "NFL Players", doesn't that mean they're already in the NFL? Thanks for 'proofsing' it.

    Speaking of NFL players being put in the NFL, BYU has a number of Offensive Lineman currently on NFL rosters. Bronco has "put" Dallas Reynolds, Travis Bright, Ray Feinga in the NFL in recent years and this year Matt Reynolds and Terrence Brown both have signed contracts with NFL teams. I guess that "proofs it".

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    June 13, 2012 6:21 p.m.


    It is every bit as possible for BYU to play for the National Championship as utah. utah has no greater chance. If BYU is ranked in the top 2 they are in, if utah is ranked in the top 2 they are in. The irony is that BYU probably has a better chance to be ranked in the top 2. utah has almost no chance of that.

    But of course it is still the longest of long shots for either of them and I don't worry about it. I enjoy BYU's seasons for what they are. I like winning 10+ games most of the time. I like being in the final rankings most of the time. It's pretty nice to tell you the truth, but you guys don't do it often, hardly did it even in the MWC or the WAC, so you can't really relate.

  • 54-10 Salt Lake City, UT
    June 13, 2012 5:09 p.m.

    Being on the outside of college football looking in is sure painful to Cougar "fan". Hang in there, there's always playing the bottom half of the WAC to look forward to.

  • fender Washington, UT
    June 13, 2012 4:27 p.m.


    "Utah will not be competing for a pac12 championship, a rose bowl berth, and certainly not a bid in the MNCG. Just being in the conference doesn't mean they will compete. Don't be so delusional."

    Here's the difference pardner. For Utah it may not be likely, but it's possible. For BYU it's impossible plain and simple.

  • Y Grad / Y Dad Richland, WA
    June 13, 2012 4:13 p.m.

    U Student Y Fan

    I must politely differ with you. I've watched a lot of Riley footage in the off-season, and what I see is both a quarterback who improved in his decision-making as well as his throwing, and receivers that made him look dang good.

    Go back and watch the last quarter of the Tulsa game, and zone in on what the ex-nfl quarterback color announcer was saying (not the play by play guy). Two plays in particular. First one, Apo is running a deep route, Riley looks off the safety then comes back to Apo. Play by play guy calls it an overthrow, sidekick calls it a rookie reviever mistake: Ross took the same bait the safety took and gave up on his route. The replay was textbook to watch.

    Later, same circumstances, Hoffman takes the deep ball. Play by play guys gives all the credit to Hoffman (not inappropriately, by the way) sidekick says no, Riley did it all with his eyes. Again, the replay was incredible to watch.

    Yes, the competition got easier as the season wore on, but Riley got better. Go back and watch it for yourself.

  • truecoug1 Provo, UT
    June 13, 2012 4:13 p.m.


    Well said :) My favorite part of a recent article about the PAC 12 Networks: "The response from distributors is that they love our content. We'll have 35 football and 140 basketball games and our conference is the best in Olympic sports," he said. "This year, conference members added eight more NCAA championships."

    At this point, though, those talks have yet to yield any additional agreements. Stil, Stevenson replied "absolutely," when asked if other carriers would be on board when the networks debut in mid-August."

    "At this point, though, those talks have yet to yield any additional agreements." In the words of Jim Rome, "UH OHHHHH!" Where have I heard that before? (Mtn, cough cough).

    I also love that their 'national' network reaches into about 40 million homes, mostly on the West Coast. BYUtv is in 50+ million around the nation.

    Good ol' Utah...always good for a laugh.

    @U Student Y Fan

    Riley Nelson a mediocre QB? The guy finished 15th in the nation last year in passing efficiency. The kid is underrated as a passer, and I'm looking forward to him proving the doubters wrong this year.

    Go Cougars!

  • U Student Y Fan Woods Cross, UT
    June 13, 2012 3:57 p.m.

    This seems to be an annual story with new names plugged to replace those of years past. I hope this "new" and "tweaked" conditioning program is as good as Doman believes, but I doubt it.

    I have been a BYU fan all my life and have never been less optimistic about the program's future (yes, even including the Crowton years). Doman's play calling last year made Robert Anae look like a good coordinator. Riley Nelson will be a mediocre QB, albeit exciting at times, and BYU will win 8-9 games. Playing Nelson this year will waste the unique talent BYU has in Apo, Hoffman, and Wilson/Holt at TE, as this year could be used to develop Taysom Hill (if he's as good as advertised) who could potentially utilize these weapons as an experienced QB in 2013.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    June 13, 2012 3:27 p.m.


    We've all pointed that out to naval vet about a thousand times, he just conveniently ignores it because it doesn't fit his agenda to aknowledge it.

    The fact is that he, and all other utah "fans" are just counting on the new contract forcing the networks to show some of utah's games from now on. Of course the networks don't want them although they may occasionally want the team utah is playing enough to pick it up. utah "fans" need to prepare themselves for a bunch of games on the minor pac network that is only shown in utah and colorado because that is going to be their reality.

    We can now all wait for utah "fans" to hypocritically tell us that all they care about is being able to see utah's games and it doesn't matter, although they'll all be on the next BYUtv article telling us how no one but BYU fans will watch it. Prepare yourself for it.


  • truecoug1 Provo, UT
    June 13, 2012 12:54 p.m.


    This is from an article in the SL Trib about last year's situation with the PAC 10/12 TV contract: "ABC/ESPN, Fox Sports Net and Versus have the right to pick up a game 12 days before it's scheduled to be played. If they don't, KJZZ can move ahead with plans to telecast it."

    As I pointed out, at ANY time during the year, the PAC 10 (or in this case, the networks that were part of the PAC 10 TV contract) could have shown the Utes football games in conference.

    Outside of the pre-scheduled Colorado game and the MWC Lite USC game (which is still hilarious), those networks decided to pick up 2 Utah games.

    Utah tied with Oregon St. for the least amount of games aired by the PAC 10 networks last year at 4.

    Nationally broadcast regular season games by the U last year: 2 ('national' meaning ESPN Networks, ABC, NBC, etc.)

    Let's compare that to some other 'relevant' schools:

    Kansas: 1 (good job, U beat the 2-10 Jayhawks)
    Duke: 4
    Maryland: 6
    Iowa St.: 3
    Syracuse: 5
    Colorado: 3
    Oregon St.: 2

    Now THAT'S relevance.

    Go Cougars!

  • couglifer South Jordan, UT
    June 13, 2012 12:08 p.m.

    @Two For Flinching

    Then point that out to navel vet utah hawaii alum all the other BYU bashers who very rarely can post without commenting on how irrelevant BYU has become


    Yes last year was not any fun for BYU fans but I remember when it was not any fun for Utah fans either. As for Utah winning 7 of 10 before that Utah went 5 and 5 before that and 1 and 9 before that and 1 and 9 before that 7 and 3 and before that 9 and 1 there you go 1952 till 2012 for a grand total record of 60 wins 60 lost it goes in cycles and as for your win last year by 44 they also lost in the last 60 years by 48 one game and 50 in another

  • Y Grad / Y Dad Richland, WA
    June 13, 2012 11:49 a.m.

    Two For Flinching

    Is that the only thing that seems silly to you?

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    June 13, 2012 7:49 a.m.

    @naval vet

    Obviously you want to ignore that fact that utah played 9 pac12 games and all of them were eligible to be shown but no one actually wanted to show them.

  • Riverton Cougar Riverton, UT
    June 13, 2012 7:14 a.m.

    "Sounds like someone still doesn't want to accept the reality of Utah's new situation going forward. Last year was a tweener year ... this year is where things start to get silly-awesome for the Utes."


    It's hypocritical that you use this excuse for Utah, but not for BYU's new independence experience. Sounds like someone still doesn't want to accept reality that BYU's situation will also improve.

    "ESPN published a "what if" scenerio as to who would be in the Final Four had that system been implemented all along"

    Naval Vet,

    Aren't all you Utah fans the ones that hate BYU fans for pulling "what-ifs"?

  • Two For Flinching Salt Lake City, UT
    June 13, 2012 4:18 a.m.

    Y dad/grad

    An at large BCS bid and earning a Pac-12 title w/ a bid in the Rose bowl are both excellent accomplishments.

    Getting caught in the semantics of who would be more "relevant" seems silly to me.

  • Jenny83 OGDEN, UT
    June 12, 2012 10:36 p.m.

    Every year byu gets all hyped up for their season and almost every year they lose to UTAH...
    All i know is that in the last decade Utah has beat byu 7 out of 10 times and absolutely humiliated them last year! It's so good to be a UTE!!

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    June 12, 2012 10:18 p.m.


    "utah will not be competing for a pac12 championship..."

    Don't be too sure of that just yet. According to Phile Steele's 2012 Preview magazine:

    "TY's [read "This year's"] Utah squad is even stronger...With superior QB play and RB John White the Utes might just be an upset away (USC Thur night at home on Oct 4th) from contending in the P12 South."

    Don't forget that with a D-II QB running the show, we were 8-5. And THIS year we not only have Wynn back [with even MORE capable backups than Hays], but also 4 MORE returning starters than we had LAST year.

    Check Lindy's, Athlon, the Sporting News...ALL publications have the Utes competing for a Pac-12 South title. And if we are competing for a Pac-12 South title, we are competing for a CCG. And if we're competing for a CCG....we ARE competing for a conference title, AND, a Rose Bowl berth.


  • Y Grad / Y Dad Richland, WA
    June 12, 2012 10:17 p.m.

    Two For Flinching

    If by "competing for a Pac-12 championship", you mean the same as every other team in the PAC-12, then yes, I'll give you that. Gonna have to get by Colorado first though, if you mean possibly winning the championship.

    So, just for hypothetical, and yes we all know that if BYU loses one game it's the Mac & Cheese Bowl for them, but let's suppose that Utah got a mulligan and this time DID back into the PAC Championship, and, supposing because we know that while Kyle can lose to real losers, he also can really play up for the big games, supposing Utah beats Oregon, Stanford or USC and goes to the Rose Bowl as an 8-3 or 7-4 team.

    And suppose, just for supposing, that BYU goes undefeated. POSSIBLY BYU still gets mac & cheese, but possibly ends up in a BCS bowl, whatever that now means.

    Who would be more relevant?

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    June 12, 2012 10:02 p.m.


    "Can you explain, then, why the PAC 12 was able to air six of Colorado's games on its networks, while they only squeezed Utah into four?"

    I think so. With the exception of the CU @ Utah game, those other 5 CU and 3 UU games...were all vs. Pac-10 teams. Remember, that television contract was a Pac-10 contract; not a Pac-12 one. Utah wasn't the ONLY team who was lucky to get ONE game. CU was too. I'm sure the Pac-12 was throwing the Utes and the Buffaloes a bone by giving us our season finale, and helping with the build up of the rivalry, and it certainly didn't hurt that at the time of that game, Utah was one win away from representing the Pac-12 South in the CCG.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    June 12, 2012 9:57 p.m.

    Y Grad / Y Dad:

    "Hard to be one of the four best if you aren't even in the top 25."

    And it's just as hard to be in the Final Four if you aren't even in the Top-10. How many Top-10 finishes have the Indy-WACers had during the BCS-era?

    Answer: ZERO!

    ESPN published a "what if" scenerio as to who would be in the Final Four had that system been implemented all along, and both the '04 and '08 Utes would have been included under the "Conference Champions Only" model.

    Fail on your part.

  • motorbike Cottonwood Heights, UT
    June 12, 2012 9:49 p.m.


    "I'll take my independence and ESPN over irrelevance and KJZZ any day."

    Sounds like someone still doesn't want to accept the reality of Utah's new situation going forward. Last year was a tweener year ... this year is where things start to get silly-awesome for the Utes.

    Enjoy your misguided perception of BYU's new found "exposure" with little else to play for. You definitely have us Ute fans feeling jealous of that situation. Ummm, yeah.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    June 12, 2012 9:46 p.m.

    @two for flinching

    utah will not be competing for a pac12 championship, a rose bowl berth, and certainly not a bid in the MNCG. Just being in the conference doesn't mean they will compete. Don't be so delusional.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    June 12, 2012 9:44 p.m.

    @naval vet

    utah didn't get paid for the previous pac10 tv contract, colorado did though which kinda tells you where utah stands in that conference, but they were still part of the pac12, played 9 pac12 games actually, and any of them could have been chosen to be shown by the networks that had that old deal. They simply chose not to show them because utah is not any dort of a draw or a ratings boost. Just the way it is.


  • Two For Flinching Salt Lake City, UT
    June 12, 2012 8:53 p.m.


    Nobody is more relevant than any of the other Pac-12 schools; right now everybody in conference is 0-0. ESPN has been saying a lot about Utah's match-up with USC though...

    Utah has more BCS bowl victories than any other Pac-12 school, except USC.

    This season, Utah will be competing for a Pac-12 championship, and a spot in the Rose Bowl (or possibly a bid in the MNCG if everything goes perfect)

    BYU will be playing for...exposure. You tell me who is irrelevant.

  • idablu Idaho Falls, ID
    June 12, 2012 7:54 p.m.

    I agree with Provo4Life that BYU needs to get into the 21st century in their training and conditioning philosophy. They seriously need a state of the art conditioning program and maybe this is the beginning of change.

    In the post season when all these graduating big guys got faster and trimmer with a different trainer, it really begged the question, "Why couldn't these guys do that when they were playing for BYU?"
    That should have been real telling for Bronco. I think Ohmer should be fired.

    I am not as optimistic as my fellow cougars about the upcoming season. We'll do OK but I'd be surprised if it is 10 win. WSU will have us scouted and analyzed inside and out and we'll have NOTHING on WSU with the new coach. We all know that Leach can make offenses extremely explosive. Bronco has his work cut out for him. Let's hope he is better prepared than he was with Utah last year.

  • hedgehog Ann Arbor, MI
    June 12, 2012 5:57 p.m.

    One a sidenote: Utah is in the process of signing a home and home with Michigan. Both games will be opening week (thursday) on ESPN starting 2014-15

  • Richard Smoker Provo, UT
    June 12, 2012 4:41 p.m.

    This is going to be a great year for BYU. The line is in shape, and Doman is calling the plays for a quarterback that plays his style. Riley Nelson is a solid quarterback. He's not the best deep passer, but he can complete enough to keep the defense honest. The Cougars will be able to have a strong running game and dominate time of possession and wear the opponents out.

    I predict big things. This band of brothers is fully invested this year!

  • STuFOO Korea, AE
    June 12, 2012 4:32 p.m.

    Naval Vet and other Utah fans....

    Please tell me what is so great about Utah football?

    You keep telling BYU fans that BYU is irrelevant. Irrelevant to whom? Please qualify...

    Your argument is that BYU is irrelevant and by some strange voodoo Utah is?

    Please tell me in what universe Utah is relevant?

    Take BYU out of the equation....

    On what list is Utah more relevant than the other schools now comprising the PAC 12?

    We were undefeated... so what? USC has done that 16 times, Washington 12, so have five other teams in the PAC 12

    We won 2 BCS games.... So what? USC has 6

    We weren't in a BCS conference... The rest of the BCS world says "So? What's your point? You didn't go undefeated in a BCS conference. Nope! Who did you play again?"

    Now take all that and go one step further, to the rest of the nation...

    No one cares.

    Utah is irrelevant... You weren't even in the top 25 last year.

    Everyone has forgotten about u.

    "BYU is still irrelevant..."

    Whatever helps you sleep at night.

  • Whoa Nellie American Fork, UT
    June 12, 2012 4:10 p.m.

    Holy cats it took a long time today before the first idiot chimed in about winning the offseason.

    Wayne, the Miners need your support.

  • truecoug1 Provo, UT
    June 12, 2012 3:45 p.m.

    @NavalVet "We were lucky to get even ONE nationally televised game on the Pac-12's old TV deal since those games were ALREADY reserved for the all the OTHER teams not-named Utah and Colorado."

    Lol, really? Can you explain, then, why the PAC 12 was able to air six of Colorado's games on its networks, while they only squeezed Utah into four? Or why Colorado's game vs USC was featured on ESPN while Utah's first ever PAC 12 game against the Trojans was relegated to MWC Lite (Versus)?

    Face it, bro, your conference doesn't respect U, nor do they think U're worth using up their TV times. A 3-10 Colorado team got more air time from the PAC 12 than U! U got on ESPN2 because of your big brother in Provo and BYU's RUGBY team had as many appearances on ESPNU as U did.

    U got invited to the 'big boys' table, and then got stuck in the high chair (or in this case, a trailer park, lol!). I'll take my independence and ESPN over irrelevance and KJZZ any day.

    Go Cougars!

  • Y Grad / Y Dad Richland, WA
    June 12, 2012 3:36 p.m.

    NV - until you can beat Colorado late in the season, at home, I think your beloved kewgars have a better chance of making the final four than U. Hard to be one of the four best if you aren't even in the top 25.

    Rise and Shout!

  • Flashback Kearns, UT
    June 12, 2012 2:39 p.m.

    Big fat unathletic offensive linemen have been the bane of BYU Football since the Roger French days. Making them slim down and get lighter on their feet and more athletic is a good thing. Good for Doman.

  • DevilishUte Tempe, AZ
    June 12, 2012 2:10 p.m.

    I remember last offseason when BYU fans were commenting on a daily basis about Bronco's offseason regimen - eating more veggies and wearing Shape-Ups. Now Harmon is bragging about Doman's offseason conditioning program. This is cute.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    June 12, 2012 1:35 p.m.


    Silly frantic and emotional little brother. Last year's television contract was inked a decade before Utah was invited. We were lucky to get even ONE nationally televised game on the Pac-12's old TV deal since those games were ALREADY reserved for the all the OTHER teams not-named Utah and Colorado.

    And STILL, I was able to watch 7 of our 12 games on TV back here in Philadelphia, with 2 ADDITIONAL games being broadcast that I DIDN'T watch on TV because I was right there in the stadium at Heinz Field [Pittsburgh] and the Sun Bowl [El Paso]. I wlouldn't know anything about KJZZ broadcasts since we don't watch those over here.

    Next year, our facilities will have been completed, and we'll be moving out of that trailor park. On the OTHER hand, next year, YOU'LL still be a weak-SOS mid-major that no other relevant conference wants, and unlike your big brother, will have no access to the proposed college Football Final Four. And THAT's what you Duckhunter, sammyg, Bluto, et al. are so bitter about.


    Go Utes!

  • 3grandslams Iowa City, IA
    June 12, 2012 1:22 p.m.

    I'd love to see the lineman slim down! It's great to have also a leader in the offseason. It's clear the team rallies around Nelson. I will be watching to see how that translates into success in the fall.

    I'm putting a lot of trust into Alisa, Quezada, Apo, HOFFMAN, and Falsev to move this team up and down the field. When I think of the linebackers, it's hard not to start laughing, they are awesome.

  • truecoug1 Provo, UT
    June 12, 2012 12:25 p.m.

    @Naval Vet "And thus continues the downward slippery slope to irrelevance."

    Huh, I thought irrelevance was having to get a TV contract with KJZZ just to show your games because your own conference refuses to, and having your football facilities being run out of a trailer park.

    My mistake.

    Go Cougars!

  • Provo4Life PROVO, UT
    June 12, 2012 12:19 p.m.

    We heard these same things last year. How the team was so far ahead of schedule and how Jake Heaps was such a sound quarterback. Then we struggle and instead of the coaches looking within they point out individual players. I hope Doman can bounce back from a horrible year( the numbers got better as teams got weaker).
    As far as a new training program goes, about time! It doesn't take much common sense to know OL and WR need different workouts, but until last year they did the same thing. Ernest Bass Ohmer is the best strength coach in the NCAA is laughable, he's leaps and bounds one of the worst. His old school philosophy and training has resulted in multiple rotator cuff tears and every athlete gets bulkier and slower. Look at Matt Reynolds, he leaves the program, loses weight and cut 2 tenths off his forty from the combine to pro day. Why?? Because he wasn't following BYU's training schedule.
    I hope BYU does great this year, realistically I see 8-9 wins. Leadership in word is great, but you have to be able to back it up with play.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    June 12, 2012 12:15 p.m.

    "Brandon Doman believes BYU football is winning the offseason..." -- Dick "Homer" Harmon

    And thus continues the downward slippery slope to irrelevance. Just 4-yrs ago, the "perfection questers" would have ALREADY WON the preseason national championship. And now...all they're doing is "winning the offseason". In a few short years, they'll just be "showing up to play", then further downgraded to "just happy to be here", before finally hitting rock bottom with "secret negotiations with the Big Sky about membership" since you'll no longer have the WAC to look to this time around. The WAC is dead.

  • Wayne Rout El Paso, TX
    June 12, 2012 11:06 a.m.

    I don't normally reply twice, but this is an exception...

    I did not say I attend every game, just that I have season tickets. I don't hide my name, if you want 4 good seats for this fall, I'm in the phone book. I attended two games last year, Utah and TCU. I saw a team that was not prepared, seems to have no strategy, and at least for the Utah game, they just plain gave up. Each year we hear about how stong this team is going to be, but the NFL draft seems to always show that it is just a dream. We can't win with walk-ons. If you want to believe these stories about how great this group will be then be my guest. I hope I am wrong. I do know that a team must have leadership and that players have to be managed. You can't turn the team over to 4 or 5 "leaders" to run the show. The coaches have to lead and they can't allow the players to pick which quarterback they will block for and which they will not.

  • camera2head west jordan, utah
    June 12, 2012 10:56 a.m.

    Same old same old. Heard it all before, every year in camp we have to hear how this is the deepest they have ever been at every position,running back,receiver,quaterbacks,best defense on and on.Now its the best shape they have ever been in.Whats next? This was the best sleepover ever on the football field,this was the best waterpark vist ever.

  • CougFaninTX Frisco, TX
    June 12, 2012 9:57 a.m.

    Riley proves that leadership matters - in sports just like it does in business. I'm sure that Heaps has the physical abilities, talent and mechanics that Nelson does not; but Nelson's leadership was the difference last year and it will be an even bigger difference this year. I expect Nelson's passing skills / mechanics to improve this year, but he will never be a John Elway. But his will to win is contagious and gets every other player to play at a higher level. This season will surprise a lot of fans with another 10+ win season and a Top 25 ranking - led by a QB who lacks many skills, but does not lack heart!

  • RevK Glenwood, UT
    June 12, 2012 9:35 a.m.

    I love the haters! From Utah and BYU. May the rivalry never end! I expect big things this season. Cant wait!

  • Y Grad / Y Dad Richland, WA
    June 12, 2012 9:15 a.m.

    Because I am slowly starving to death out here! Give me anything BYU football, but please don't let me open up my computer to nothing new. It can lead to reading articles on the Utah page...

    Wayne, this season is absolutley going to kill you. The kid you say can't throw is going to lead the cougars to 10+ wins and another top 25 ranking, and you won't have anything good to say. At all. But it won't stop you from talking.

    Okay, that was just prognosticating on my part, but hey, like the trolls say, I can crown them national champs at this point, in my head. The real stuff can't start soon enough.

    And linemen that can scramble with a quarterback that scrambles? Why didn't I think of that?

    Go Cougs, and go RILEY!

  • DEW Cougars Sandy, UT
    June 12, 2012 8:59 a.m.

    Nice to hear more Lean and Quick players. What about our Center guy, the middle guy? I sure hope they can hike easily this time around.

    It is nice to hear some report but why don't we wait till fall workout reports. OKAY mr Harmon!

  • TJ Eagle Mountain, UT
    June 12, 2012 8:43 a.m.

    Glad to hear that the 340 lb linemen will be losing 20-30 lbs. Fat guys are good pass blockers but all that weight can slow them down a bit on the run plays. With a solid running back group this year, the offense should be improved, especially in the first few games.

  • CougarBlue Heber City, UT
    June 12, 2012 8:35 a.m.

    Dear trustybob, little letters like you did with Doman. I guess your Bryan Johnson will do absolutely fantastic his first year, even though he never made it in the NFL, as Doman did. There is always that learning curve and Doman has been through that, but you want us to throw him under the truck. Will you be honest when Johnson struggles his first year also. I doubt it. You will come on here and say it was his first year and he is learning. True negative comments from a Utah fan.

    Wayne Rout I feel sorry for you. You show no loyalty to BYU with your comments. I seriously doubt you flew up to Utah each week and attended every home game for 25 years. That is pure braggadoccio on your point trying to make everyone think you have been a loyal fan all these years, but one year and you abandon ship. Keep your money and donate it to a charity. But, please, whatever you do, do not under any circumstance turn on BYUTV or ESPN. Just go play a round of golf and do not try to find out how BYU did.

  • cowboy99 South Jordan, UT
    June 12, 2012 8:33 a.m.

    Finally I'm not the only one who thinks our lineman are too fat!

  • oddman ,
    June 12, 2012 8:32 a.m.

    It amazes and astounds me just how many "great coaches" read Harmons observations and reporting of those hired to win football games. From their comments it is hard to comprehend why they haven't been coerced into coaching college football and ridding the world of human beings trying their best to improve on a pretty good season. How quickly we forget just how many turnovers occurred against Utah and TCU making it impossible to gauge the team's ability. And how ineffective the marvel from the northwest either overshot, under threw of dropped the pigskin. Sure you can attribute those miscues to coaching albeit unfairly.

  • Ernest T. Bass Bountiful, UT
    June 12, 2012 8:27 a.m.

    Pretty much every year are offensive line has been awesome. We have higher expectations than anyone else and the NFL players we put in the NFL proofs it.
    Omer is probably the #1 strength coach in NCAA.

  • kaparowitz A.F., UT
    June 12, 2012 8:16 a.m.

    I like what I am hearing about the offensive line needing to be able to move around better. If you are too big as Doman put it, that may not be the best approach to the type of offense that they are going to be running.

  • trustybob salt lake , UT
    June 12, 2012 8:10 a.m.

    great, so the team is ready to go. how about you doman? how is your conditioning coming along? lets hope better than last year

  • AzTim Gilbert, AZ
    June 12, 2012 8:00 a.m.

    Waaa waaa waaa. Wayne is taking his ball and going home. The 25-year season ticket holder points to one bad year in 2011 and decides it was just too much to handle. A real fan will take the good with the bad and not crawl under a rock when the going gets rough. The Heaps era took its toll on and off the field, but the real fans will be back to support their team and their school. We love BYU, we love BYU football come what may. Fair weather fans,...get a spine.

  • Wayne Rout El Paso, TX
    June 12, 2012 7:32 a.m.

    This all seems vaguely familiar... I think I've heard it before. Great offensive line, Doman is a whiz, things will be better, and we have 29 seniors from a team that was embarrassed by TCU, Utah, Mississippi... Our salvation is that we have Riley. Even though he can't throw, he fields punts and we just like having him around. I'm glad I'm not attending any games this year. This 25 year season ticket holder is taking the year off. I saw enough against Utah and TCU last year to waste time and money on the Cougars this year. I know the school and media love Doman, but I’m not convinced until I see all the hype show results on the field. I smell a losing season ahead.

  • kugrlover Provo, UT
    June 12, 2012 12:25 a.m.

    AWESOME. Glad I stayed-up late so the first comment on this article could be from a BYU fans instead of all the usual-suspect Cougar-hating trolls (you guys know who you are - you wear your DN reps like crowns).

    This report is a breath of fresh air to most BYU fans who for years have lamented we had OL who could bench-press a Mack truck but couldn't pull, slide or run effectively. As always, the proof will be when the rubber hits the road August 30th against WSU, but I'm cautiously optimistic.

    And I LOVE how Doman tells it like it is and is so relaxed & open with the media. I think Brandon's growth as OC in year two will be significant.