BYU football: Cougar assistant coach Poppinga is learning on the job

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  • truecoug1 Provo, UT
    June 13, 2012 12:34 p.m.


    Lol, bro, take it easy, it's called trash-talking. U started this whole thing by coming on here running your mouth, remember?

    The Utes scored 28 pts on 6 total yds of offense. I'll give them credit for that. BYU's defense had held John White IV to 13 yds rushing on 12 carries through the 3rd QTR and total yardage was identical going into the 4th quarter.

    The only difference? 7 TO's by the Cougs, 4 of them completely unforced. So yes, I would call that a complete meltdown, or a perfect storm. Do I think Utah was really that good? Not at all, for the reasons I listed below. Do I think BYU was really that bad? Again, not at all, for the reasons I listed below.

    I also do not think Colorado was a better football team than Utah. We have the whole season to look at for proof of that.

    So I'm sorry I will not give credit to the Utes for the Cougars' meltdown. The Utes were the happy recipients of a 7 TO gift from BYU.

    Congratulations for that.

    Go Cougars!

  • 2BCSWINS West of I15, UT
    June 13, 2012 8:56 a.m.

    True Coug have you taken time to actually read what you post? You never give the U credit for anything. You never do anything but boast the Y no matter how you have to spin it. You also discredit anything to do with Utah by spinning it however you can to make them look bad.

    I mean really the Y get's beat by more then 6 TD's on their home feild. Yet you're really going to try and spin it as it was the "perfect storm a complete meltdown".

    Are you serious? Do you really believe that Utah had nothing to do with winning that game? Do you really think the Y was a better team and somehow just handed Utah the game? I understand where you're coming from I'm the exact same way at times on the other side. However sometimes you just have to give credit where credit is due.

  • truecoug1 Provo, UT
    June 12, 2012 3:54 p.m.

    @2BCSWINS "Yes Colorado was better I give credit where credit is due"

    Really? U really think Colorado was a better team than Utah? My original point was to try and show that one game does not a season make, but if U think the Buffs were a better team than the Utes last year then power to U.

    Yes, the Utes beat us by 44 last year. It was the perfect storm, a complete meltdown. an epic fail.

    Were the Utes really that good? Nope, since they lost to two teams with losing records and got blown out by two others that barely finished above .500. Were the Cougars really that bad? Nope, since they lost to two much better teams than Utah (TCU and Texas) by a total of 11 pts, and ended the year 10-3 and ranked #25.

    As for BSU, I'm assuming BYU fans bring them up because they're another one of those 'mid-majorey WAC' teams that has beat up on U in the past.

    Go Cougars!

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    June 12, 2012 3:13 p.m.


    I didn't "say the u offense was horrible", the u offense was horrible. Just look at how they ranked in total offense. I'm sorry if that hurts you but it is just the way it is.

  • 2BCSWINS West of I15, UT
    June 12, 2012 1:46 p.m.

    @JW...You do realize that boasting about an 84 national championship when you were 2 years old equals 0 BCS appearances, right? Utah in 2004 and 2008 did exactly what that 84 Y team did won every game put in front of them. Only differnce is they actually beat ranked teams while doing it and it wasn't 3 decades ago....LOL!

    @Truecougie...Yes Colorado was better I give credit where credit is due. Bag colorado all you want but the team they beat stomped the Y by 44 points at home.

    Yes I do realize Boise has owned the U again I give credit where credit is due. Let me make that point again since obviously you're a little slow. I don't undertand why so many Y fans post about boise beating the U? Like that makes the Y look better somehow when they have never beatin boise either. Yet I have seen so many posts about boise stomping the U from Y fans? Only difference here is the U and boise have actually been to and won BCS bowl games and the Y has not been close!

  • J W springville, UT
    June 12, 2012 12:23 p.m.


    You do realize that 2 BCS Wins equals 0 National Championships right?

  • truecoug1 Provo, UT
    June 12, 2012 12:15 p.m.

    @2BCSWINS "Yet they put 54 points on the board in LES. That must just mean the cougie defense is one of the worst in college football."

    And U lost to the 107th ranked team in the country on your home field. That must mean your team was worse than the Buffs, right?

    (roll my eyes)

    Utah has also never beaten BSU and the last time BSU played Utah in RES, the Broncos put on a 36-3 beat down. So what's your point?

    @MLH "Byu is one of the most hated schools in the country."

    I didn't realize that CSU and Wyoming represented the country's opinion. BYU was hated by teams in the MWC because the Cougars dominated the MWC. They won 140 total conference championships during their time in the MWC. The next closest team had something like 39.

    BYU was (and obviously still is) the standard that those teams hold themselves to. People like U and 2BCSWINS just prove that since you're both on here stomping your feet and trying to make BYU fans think that U are actually relevant.

    Sorry, KJZZ and trailer park football facilities just don't cut it.

    Go Cougars!

  • 2BCSWINS West of I15, UT
    June 12, 2012 8:47 a.m.

    @Ducky...You say the U offense was horrible last year. Yet they put 54 points on the board in LES. That must just mean the cougie defense is one of the worst in college football. Unless of course their playing alska tech co-ed community college on a Wed night with a 2AM kick off.

    @My Two dad's....I love how you and other cougie fans love to bring up boise state beating Utah. You do realize the Y has never beat boise st, right? You do realize the last time the Y played boise at home it was 50 - 12 for boise, right? The team quit like they did in the 54-10 beat down last year.

  • Proud Ute ,
    June 12, 2012 5:49 a.m.

    Y Grad/Y Dad,

    Now that's what I'm talking about!

  • Y Grad / Y Dad Richland, WA
    June 11, 2012 11:02 p.m.

    Welcome, Pop!

    Hmmmm, I don't think coaches, players or fans look at the Y with scorn or ridicule from Notre Dame, Miami (well, maybe. But that's Miami), Texas, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington...

    But Utah?

    And most hated team? I'm sure Boise will look forward to kicking u'r trash anytime the U is willing to man up and face them again. Pretty sure the old Wyo coach isn't fond of U either.

    But you know what? I bet U don't care. Just like I don't care. Not about fans who hate fans, or fans who love to mock fans (I still think the missionary thing at SDSU was funny. Hateful, maybe so, maybe not, but def funny)

    What I care about is that Pop's boys eat Jordan Wynn for lunch and spit out the bones.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    June 11, 2012 5:39 p.m.


    I'm sure coach Poppinga will be just fine as well, and sitake has proven himself. Of course that is the point isn't it? All coaches start somewhere and work their way up. mightymites comment was just plain laughable.

    Now johnson on the otherhand has a lot to prove and what he has proven so far is not very good. The qb's at utah have actually gotten worse under his tutelage. It doesn't bode well for the offense although to be fair it would be hard for any offense to be worse than the one utah put out on the field last season so I guess he will be the beneficiary of some pretty low expectations.

  • Proud Ute ,
    June 11, 2012 4:22 p.m.

    dang.... let's try that again.

    ....... I expect that blue skewed nonsense out of the resident cougar trolls.

    I'm sure Coach Poppinga would smile at that comment coming from a Ute, but the lack of support from you "fans"....... pitiful, just pitiful.

  • Proud Ute ,
    June 11, 2012 3:52 p.m.


    Indeed, the Utes have BYU to thank for their best coaches. Unfortunately, BYU cannot keep all of their well trained coaches due to NCAA staffing regulations. Some have to leave, not because they aren't exceptional, but because at that time there wasn't a place on the coaching roster to keep them. (Best example is Kyle who left prior to Dick Felt's retirement. Bad timing for BYU.)

    You are aware Kyle was offered the head coaching job at byu the same time he was offered the head job at the U aren't you? So it wasn't bad timing, it was Coach Whitt making a wise professional decision.

    Squinting at the world through blue goggles again, I expect that out of the

    I'm sure Coach Pop

    June 11, 2012 12:04 p.m.

    Cougar blue
    Only Utah fans look at us with scorn and ridicule and mock us. And they always will.

    No they aren't-it's purelly apparent you have never been to a Wyoming or Colorado State game. Byu is one of the most hated schools in the country. And it's not because of the players, coaches or administration, it's because of the fan base.

  • BlueRampage American Fork, UT
    June 11, 2012 8:50 a.m.

    Proud Ute wrote: "You'll know you've made it when you're wearing red."

    Indeed, the Utes have BYU to thank for their best coaches. Unfortunately, BYU cannot keep all of their well trained coaches due to NCAA staffing regulations. Some have to leave, not because they aren't exceptional, but because at that time there wasn't a place on the coaching roster to keep them. (Best example is Kyle who left prior to Dick Felt's retirement. Bad timing for BYU.)

    So, Ute trolls, be truly grateful for what BYU has given you. Let's hope we can keep the good ones we now have for at least a while longer. Their success will eventually lead them to other opportunities, though hopefully not to the Utes.

  • utahcountyute Cedar Hills, UT
    June 10, 2012 10:44 p.m.

    Cougarblue and Duck

    Whah!!! Always scorned and highly disliked! Cry me a river.

    I's sure coach Poppinga will do just fine. Just like Coach Sitake has done and Brian Johnson will do.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    June 10, 2012 9:25 a.m.


    Let's see....kalani sitake, aaron roderick, and the biggest LOL of them all brian johnson. The 25 year old, no pro experience, not even a pro sniff, failed qb coach, now offensive coordinator. None had much, if any, experience.


  • Ernest T. Bass Bountiful, UT
    June 9, 2012 11:23 p.m.

    Barometer U. Lose to good teams, beat bad ones.

  • CougFaninTX Frisco, TX
    June 9, 2012 10:19 p.m.

    "Learning on the job is what is 'not' what is needed."

    U should have told that to Whit before he promoted Johnson.

  • Osgrath Provo, UT
    June 9, 2012 9:39 p.m.

    Gee, we should all listen to mightymite, he has always shown to have BYU's interest at heart.

    As for thebigsamoan, why should I care what others think of me? That sounds pretty self-absorbed. If people look at BYU with scorn and ridicule, that is their problem, not mine. I chose not to hate and they choose negative emotions. Doesn't bother me.

    Besides, I have watched enough great victories over the years, often in person, sometimes on TV, to feel pretty good about my team. Only on the field of play am I going to compare them to anybody else - head to head. Ute success doesn't affect the way I feel about BYU.

  • mightymite DRAPER, UT
    June 9, 2012 6:29 p.m.

    Learning on the job is what is 'not' what is needed. Bring people in who you can pay a decent salary with experience. This is what is expected-- primarily with all this talk of the ESPN money and exposure that is coming in.

  • Cougarista Salt Lake City, UT
    June 9, 2012 5:57 p.m.

    Coach Poppinga is in the mold of BYU, good football, good staff, good education and good players. Thanks for your hard work. Keep the standards high. Read Joe Nocera's editorial in the NYT today. BYU is dong just fine.

  • RockOn Spanish Fork, UT
    June 9, 2012 5:27 p.m.

    Coach Poppinga seems like a very good coach. Best wishes to you, Coach. It is not an easy job and all that traveling, selling and reselling would seem like a tough job. You definitely earn your pay.

    I like the fact you continue the Bronco tradition of finding the best players who can represent BYU. It's a tough job and I am quite sure BYU will never be an "elite" football power but will be good enough to make this a fun journey with them. Glad I'm along for the ride.

  • Proud Ute ,
    June 9, 2012 3:41 p.m.

    Since you cougar trolls and whiners are so obessesed with the U that you can't welcome Coach Poppinga I will do it for you.
    Good luck Coach, best wishes for a successful career. You'll know you've made it when you're wearing red.

  • Wildcat Provo, UT
    June 9, 2012 1:42 p.m.

    I think BYU has a very good schedule this year: Boise State, Georgia Tech, U of U, are the top grabbers, but Notre Dame, Washington State, Hawaii, and USU are solid programs.

    I agree with Duckhunter, obviously not in the caliber with Alabama, but BYU has a very good tradition. I also think that one loss isn't a deal-breaker this year. It might be tougher the independent route as compared to an automatic conference tie-in, but I think one and possibly two losses (depending on the scores and teams) could still put BYU in a BCS Bowl.

    Other than the Boise State game, they don't leave the state of Utah until October 20th. This could give them the momentum they need when they go on the road for GA Tech and Notre Dame. With Riley Nelson at the helm, I think they have a good chance! The U of U game will be much different this year now that a seasoned quarterback will be starting. I like BYU's chances, especially how they finished last year. I think it will carry over to the start of this year. GO COUGARS!

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    June 9, 2012 12:24 p.m.

    BYU has beaten a very large list of the top programs in the country over the years. They have also lost to a lot of them. Both of these outcomes are because BYU has always been willing to play those caliber of teams and because BYU is a well respected and successful team with a large stadium those programs have also been willing to schedule them.

    BYU will never win all of those games, but they win/won enough of them to have built a legacy of doing it. Anyone that thinks otherwise is deluded and has no grasp on reality. True BYU fans know BYU is not an elite program the level of Alabama or USC, but we also realize BYU is a prennial top 25 program that wins plenty of games including games against top programs.

    Any BYU "fan" that buys into the utah "fan" propogated falsehood that BYU must win every game against top programs to be successful is a fool. No program does that, not even the top programs. They all lose games. What BYU has done recently and over the last 40+ years is top 25 overall. Pretty darn good.

  • Mountainman56 Alpine, UT
    June 9, 2012 10:39 a.m.

    Bigsamoan - Apparently you and others have forgotten about wins in recent years against Oklahoma, Oregon, Washinton (twice), Oregon State (twice), UCLA (twice), Arizona and Ole' Miss. Not to mention wins over the longer term over many of the nation's best programs including Texas, Miami, Notre Dame, Michigan, Penn St., Wisconsin, Texas A&M, Pitt. etc. Yes we've lost games to big time programs but so has everyone else yet they are not looked at with "scorn and "ridicule". You're really good at looking at the negative but there are lots of positives too.

  • The Official Bingham Canyon, UT
    June 9, 2012 10:28 a.m.

    @ CougarBlue.... or old woman blue... its easy to ridicule and mock when its earned... and you make it so easy to do!!!

  • CougarBlue Heber City, UT
    June 9, 2012 8:02 a.m.

    Only Utah fans look at us with scorn and ridicule and mock us. And they always will.

  • thebigsamoan Richmond, VA
    June 9, 2012 5:40 a.m.

    As I've said over and over again before, it boils down to the one thing that is most important above all..."Winning against top competition." Until we do that on a consistent basis, we will still be looked at with scorn and ridicule. Achieve that and recruiting will be a piece of cake because no one will then dispute that we can mix it up with the big boys of college football. Short of that, the haters will continue to mock and make fun of anything and everything BYU.

    Go Cougrars!