Mitt Romney clinches GOP nomination with Texas win (+video)

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  • zoar63 Mesa, AZ
    May 31, 2012 1:20 p.m.

    @CHS 85

    "We get it, a mission is a great thing and military service is a great thing - for someone else."

    Getting a ministerial deferral when there was a draft in effect during the Vietnam war did not permanently exclude a man from military service. After the two years were completed for the mission, Uncle Sam came calling. I know that to be true because that is what happened to me after I served my mission.

  • CHS 85 Sandy, UT
    May 30, 2012 6:27 p.m.


    Thanks for playing. You're right, it wasn't illegal for Mitt Romney to go on a mission instead of serving in the military. I'm sure you said the same things about Bill Clinton when he was running for office having had an education deferment. I'm sure you give thanks to Al Gore and John Kerry for actually serving in Vietnam, with Al Gore being a child of privilege like Mr. Romney.

    You're also right that President Obama didn't serve in the military - but there hasn't been a draft during the years he would have been eligible.

    As an opinion of my own, I believe the President should have served in the military to be an effective military leader. Just my opinion, and yes, I voted for John McCain when he ran in 2008.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    May 30, 2012 3:31 p.m.

    CHS 85,

    The war was highly expanded during the Johnson years, and Romney did nothing illegal by going on a church mission for two and a half years. It was a Republican who ended the war and draft.

    Liberal Democrat Johnson also declared war on poverty, and it's been a miserable flop.

    Obama could have joined the Army and fought in the Kuwait war or served in many other countries, but he didn't. As an opinion, I doubt he'd give his life for the country.

  • WHAT NOW? Saint George, UT
    May 30, 2012 2:53 p.m.

    @let's debate 12:47 PM

    "...Romney did nothing wrong by serving a mission and not serving in the military...".

    Mitt Romney has said that one of the biggest mistakes he ever made was not serving his country in any branch of the military.

    There are many who served missions who also served their country, in some branch, of the military.

    For Pete's sake, even President Ronald Reagan served his country, in the Film Unit, at Burbank Cailfornia, during WWII.

    President Reagan is the GOLD STANDARD with regard to all things Conservative/Republican.

  • IdahoStranger NEWDALE, ID
    May 30, 2012 1:53 p.m.

    @ LetsDebate

    "Just watch - every opposing comment will be ad hominem attacks on "birther kookiness" or even racism, without a speck of factual evidentiary rebuttal."

    ad hominem - Attacking an opponent's motives or character rather than the policy or position they maintain.

    So that is what its called! Many years ago I used to show a filmstrip entitled "The News Makers" about how the media didn't report the news, they simply made the news. Clearly illustrated when
    Stephen Ohlemacher, Associated Press writer who posted this story used the term "discredited" without an further explanation as to how that was determined.

    I attempted to find some background on Mr. Ohlemacher but his information is as hard to find as is information about Mr. Obama. Perhaps someone else could give it a try and see if they can find any background information on Mr. Ohlemacher.

    My apologies to LetsDebate - what on earth was I thinking by commenting on the evidence?

  • Conner Johnson
    May 30, 2012 1:10 p.m.

    Ron Paul 2012!

    May 30, 2012 12:47 p.m.

    @LDSLib - so, as long as someone's a veteran, they're free to smear everyone who didn't serve, and remain free of criticism? Is that why they and you served - to inoculate yourself against any further criticism? I respect your service, and I respect the service of everyone who served honorably, but I do not buy into your lame premise that the honor and respect extends to crazy ideas and dishonest, hypocritical smearing of fellow citizens.

    Romney did nothing wrong by serving a mission and not serving in the military, and Obama has NOTHING on Romney as far as military service and respect for our armed forces. Try other arguments to favor Obama and oppose Romney, because everybody who has avoided abject delusion knows that in his heart, Obama sees the military to some extent as a tool of Western colonialism, but he talks the political talk as well as he can to avoid exposing this objectionable viewpoint.

  • CHS 85 Sandy, UT
    May 30, 2012 12:08 p.m.


    Name a war where President Obama could have been drafted.

    The man who started the wars was from your party. The man who is ending them is from another party, true or false?

    We get it, a mission is a great thing and military service is a great thing - for someone else.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    May 30, 2012 10:42 a.m.

    Brother Chuck Schroeder,

    It was a liberal Democrat that expanded the war, and other then cost lives and money, did nothing. Men died for what?

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    May 30, 2012 10:36 a.m.

    Brother Chuck Schroeder,

    What war has Obama fought in? Giving over a billion dollars to the Muslim Brotherhood is patriotic? Serving a mission is hiding? Your priorities are bias and hypocritical.

    May 30, 2012 10:21 a.m.

    @IdahoStranger - the suggestion that Obama wasn't born in the U.S. has been "discredited" merely by the fact that Obama said he was born in Hawaii, and produced a document. How dare anyone challenge that! Any evidence of fraud, like what you have pointed out, is clearly not true, because Obama has mocked the idea and therefore put it to rest. Left-leaning journalists certainly don't want to be the subject of mockery by the most enlightened and transformational President of our generation, so actual in-depth investigative journalism into this matter is deeply frowned upon.

    So, we have a see-no-evil, hear-no-evil, speak-no-evil media on this matter, and a public that is either highly gullible and accepting of shallow reporting, or too intimidated to demand a full investigation of the facts. Just watch - every opposing comment will be ad hominem attacks on "birther kookiness" or even racism, without a speck of factual evidentiary rebuttal. If you can't debate the facts, personally impugn your opponent.

  • IdahoStranger NEWDALE, ID
    May 30, 2012 9:04 a.m.

    DN article quote from Associated Press: "Romney's message and his big day, however, were somewhat overshadowed by real estate mogul Donald Trump and his discredited suggestions that Obama wasn't born in the United States."

    "discredited" by who?

    Can someone dispute these facts:

    Obama's document consists of several different layers. The date/time stamp and the certification stamp are on separate layers and can be moved to anywhere on the document. The green background is also on a separate layer.

    If it was an original document and had been scanned with an OCR scanner,
    you would be able to search for a word on the page, edit on the
    page and it would show a listing of the different fonts encountered
    on the page. His document fails all three tests so it appears it
    was not an OCR scan from a single page document.

    May 30, 2012 8:55 a.m.

    @xert - if you think your tent doesn't have unflattering figures, it merely shows your willing partisan blindness. Ever heard of Bill Maher, Michael Moore, Code Pink, Communist Party USA?

    Get a real issue. Do you really want to be defined by the kooks in your tent?

  • xert Santa Monica, CA
    May 30, 2012 5:55 a.m.

    I know Mitt will never have the character to stand up to Trump and call him out on his birther tactics. That kind of courage was bad for John McCain. But couldn't Mitt ask him to quit bobbing for Cheetos and stick to the "two directions per combing limited" hair reform? Watch Romney and Trump closely Republicans. The Donald now is part of you and yours. I have the comfort of knowing, that even should President Obama lose this race, I will never be in the same tent as Donald Trump and the birthers. Can you say the same?

  • Jenny83 OGDEN, UT
    May 29, 2012 10:40 p.m.

    Lets all have a group hug, shall we!?

  • CHS 85 Sandy, UT
    May 29, 2012 10:27 p.m.

    My vote in Utah doesn't matter. Mitt Romney will win the elector vote by a landslide here.

    To those who think all veterans love Mitt Romney and hate President Obama - you are wrong, very wrong. Many of us who have served, fought, and loved this country are weary of endless war.

    “The soldier, above all other people, prays for peace, for he must suffer and bear the deepest wounds and scars of war.” - Douglas McArthur

  • mightymite DRAPER, UT
    May 29, 2012 9:47 p.m.

    Nobody won tonight except President Obama. Sad how politics work but with Romneys venture capital past and Donald Trump's statament...we have a winner...Obama.

  • Gramajane OAKLEY, ID
    May 29, 2012 9:23 p.m.

    So as quite a few of those I know personally are having new hope in the economy with Mitt , might this help to already bring an upswing that then Obama claim as HIS work? Just thinking.

  • A1994 Centerville, UT
    May 29, 2012 8:27 p.m.

    Just wait until we start getting close enough to see over this 'fiscal cliff' the media (particularly the financial media) keep talking about. We are coming up to the debt ceiling (AGAIN) and there is no indication that the Democrats want to do the responsible thing and make cuts to the budget. We are about to kiss the $16 Trillion debt marker goodbye. The Bush tax cuts are going to expire and the Democrats aren't about to give in on that without a fight. So here's what we are going to have later this summer: The party in power is going to campaign against extending tax cuts that affect everyone, not just the rich. They are going to campaign on going 'FOREWORD' on huge deficit spending, and they are going to campaign against capitalism.

    Don't be surprised on the morning after the election that Mitt Romney won in a landslide.

  • bob j Bli Bli, Queensland
    May 29, 2012 7:59 p.m.

    Another rung up the ladder and I feel sure that Romney's shoes will not slip as he climbs. Viva Romney.

  • Mukkake Salt Lake City, UT
    May 29, 2012 6:36 p.m.

    Brother Chuck Schroeder,

    You mean Mitt Romney was smart enough to avoid Vietnam?

    We need a smart man for the President...

    Romney 2012

  • Krissy from Massachusetts MATTAPOISETT, MA
    May 29, 2012 6:09 p.m.

    Brother Chuck, Obama did not mean what he said about apologizing to the Vietnam Vets. It was a political ploy to get the Vets to like him b/c he is low in those polls... Also, you said that Mitt did not join the military so you would not vote for him. Well Obama did not join either. It takes a really gutsy person to join and not everyone can fight. Do you really want just anyone joining the military?

  • Meadow Lark Mark IDAHO FALLS, ID
    May 29, 2012 6:07 p.m.

    I guess I just find it interesting how this article tells of Obama being so pious. Please. The best candidate for this election is Mitt Romney.

  • Krissy from Massachusetts MATTAPOISETT, MA
    May 29, 2012 6:04 p.m.

    To Brother Chuck, don't you realize that Obama's apology on Memorial Day about how the Vietnam troops were treated when they returned was just an election ploy...He's scared b/c the Vets don't like him. He did not mean what he said. Also, you said you would not vote for Mitt b/c he did not join the military- well Obama didn't either. It takes a really special person to have the guts to join and I don't think I'd want Men or Women who can't hack it to fight...

  • Baron Scarpia Logan, UT
    May 29, 2012 5:53 p.m.

    Visit with Trump in sin city, refusal to renounce the "birther issue," visit to coal country to poke fun at "green jobs" in Colorado...

    ... This how Romney celebrates his nomination? What a joke!

  • Jenny83 OGDEN, UT
    May 29, 2012 5:19 p.m.

    Now kids, can't we all just get along?

  • Hutterite American Fork, UT
    May 29, 2012 5:11 p.m.

    Sorry, romney, you'll never get my vote. Ever.

  • Jenny83 OGDEN, UT
    May 29, 2012 4:49 p.m.

    H. Ross Perot 2012!!!

  • Kouger Lehi, UT
    May 29, 2012 4:46 p.m.

    By the way, Romney is backed and preferred by more veterans than Obama! - a 24% margin (?)

  • Kouger Lehi, UT
    May 29, 2012 4:43 p.m.

    Sing along: "Na na na na na na ..hey, hey, goodbye Obama..."

    "If Mitt Romney lacks the backbone to stand up to a charlatan like Donald Trump because he's so concerned about lining his campaign's pockets, what does that say about the kind of president he would be?"

    Answer: Then Romney JUST might turn out to be the current president-in-training (aka Obama) who promised to stand up to charlatans like the lobbyists and has never done it because he is so concerned about lining up his campaign's pockets!!

    So, sorry Obama, you will never get my vote, EVER! ... ROMNEY 2012!

  • Getting it Right Sunnyvale, CA
    May 29, 2012 4:20 p.m.

    It's ironic that the Obama campaign is talking about lack of moral leadership.
    Sorry Obama, you will never get my vote ever...

    Romney 2012!!!

  • Brother Chuck Schroeder A Tropical Paradise USA, FL
    May 29, 2012 3:01 p.m.

    Sing along, "ALL my ex's live in Texas".

    Fifty years after Vietnam

    In his speech at the Vietnam Veterans Memorial in Washington D.C., President Obama did more than just mark Memorial Day; he began the 50th commemoration of that conflict and those who served in one of America's longest wars.

    Fifty years ago, American forces stepped up operations in Vietnam. During the conflict, more than three million Americans served in the Vietnam war, and more than 58,000 American patriots gave their lives. And when U.S. forces returned home, too many never received the hero's welcome they deserved.

    Yesterday, President Obama told their story as it should have been told all along a story of patriotism, honor, and courage.

    SORRY Mitt Romney, I fought, never hid in France, and stayed in school to avoid the draft either. You'll never get my vote ever.