Census: Minorities now surpass whites in US births

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  • worf Mcallen, TX
    May 20, 2012 10:31 a.m.

    Liberal Ted--I'm Hawaiian and have been denied employment several times for not being of another race. I can affirm that to you, and yes, profiling does occur.

  • Bebyebe UUU, UT
    May 18, 2012 8:16 p.m.

    Liberal Ted, I challenge you to an experiment.

    Take a walk around your office complex, your building. Count the total number of people and count the total number of non-white males. I suspect you're very much in the majority.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    May 18, 2012 4:58 p.m.

    The educated level of America has moved at the same pace as the growth of non-whites. Our country's future is bright with equality for all.

  • atl134 Salt Lake City, UT
    May 18, 2012 11:09 a.m.

    @Liberal Ted
    They aren't a minority. They're still a plurality. They're only a minority if you define race to be 'white' or 'other'.

  • cjb Bountiful, UT
    May 18, 2012 6:48 a.m.

    re Liberal Ted
    Salt Lake City, UT
    So now that whites are in the minority, I would like some entitlements and tax
    breaks and a free pass to a college education. I would also like to have special
    treatment in getting hired and promoted in companies.


    Should it ever become the truth that white people are discrinimated against, as actual minorities of America have been and to a lesser extent still are, what you are calling for will make perfect sense.

    Affirmative action is not justified, for a minority merely because they are a minority, affirmative action is to help ensure that the playing field is level due to effects of past and present discrimination.

    If you hate affirmative action, the right thing for you to do, is become the kind of person who isn't contributing to its continued necessity. Otherwise don't complain about it.

  • liberate Sandy, UT
    May 18, 2012 1:16 a.m.

    @LiberalTed. One other point then I'll stop my ranting. Whites are minority only if you include all other non-whites in a single category. That in and of itself is racist since it assumes all "non-whites" are the same. You didn't start it. This article did. But perpetuating this concept is misleading since whites are still the largest group in this country by far.

  • liberate Sandy, UT
    May 18, 2012 1:13 a.m.

    @LiberalTed - Point taken. You are unhappy that you were denied by a program even though a person "less qualified" than you was accepted. But here's my question to you. How do you define qualified? Are GPA and test scores the only method of measuring qualified?

    I also don't like the fact that those less qualified than I have been accepted to Harvard because of differences in race or gender. But I have also been on the other side, evaluating candidates to highly selective programs. And guess what. Sometimes I preferred the black Jewish handicapped woman over the white male, despite the fact that she was less "qualified". Why? Because we already had a hundred other white males with identical backgrounds and "qualifications". But we certainly didn't have a black Jewish handicapped woman and the perspectives she would bring.

    It's hard to put a value on these intangibles but there is certainly value. The same goes for Mormons, which we also considered (a white male Mormon was more interesting to us than a plain white male).

    I don't like quotas and think they should be avoided. But race, religion, wealth, etc. are all important to consider.

  • williary Kearns, UT
    May 17, 2012 8:28 p.m.

    @Liberal Ted

    No one is stopping you, or anyone else from that matter, for taking "advantage" of entitlements. You have ever right to quit your job, stop paying your bills, get evicted, and put yourself on government assistance. The only one denying you from those "priviledges" is yourself.

  • LDS Liberal Farmington, UT
    May 17, 2012 2:12 p.m.


    I have no doubt you are bitter old white woman.
    Liberal Ted's comments reflect a general resentment that is building in this country.


    Actually – I’m a middleage, heterosexual, LDS, whiteman, married w/4children, USAF veteran, and AerospaceEngineer.

    But, I speak of racism 2nd hand.
    I grewup with mixedrace cousins and adopted minorities.
    I remember going places and overhearing the racist garbage from people who thought I wasn’t with “them”.

    I’m with DrKing – I judge people by their character, not skin color.

    and this article is about higher minority birth-rate – babies!
    and yet here you are judging babies based on their skin color = that IS racism.

    You and Liberal Ted, and your “resentment that is building in this country” will untimely lead to America's eventual downfall and demise.

    Read the Book of Mormon.
    Especially the last chapters.

    In the end, God saved the;
    Commune living,
    Pipe smoking,
    Long haired,

    …and instead, destroyed those who should have know better, and didn’t.

  • Wonder Provo, UT
    May 17, 2012 1:49 p.m.

    @A1994 -- Please re-read Liberal Ted's first comment. Do you seriously think that it promoted harmony between the races? How is it promoting harmony to say that minorities are the only ones who get entitlements, tax breaks and a free education? How is it promoting harmony to say that the media only cares when minorities are injured by crime? Why is saying any of those things considered an old fashioned value that you want to protect? Why is it divisive to point out that those statements are, frankly, unacceptable? Stereotyping is ugly, and I'll call it as I see it. I'm not trying to divide anybody. I'm trying to get people like Liberal Ted to see that what HE is saying is divisive. Dark-skinned people are not out to get you, so relax.

  • Wonder Provo, UT
    May 17, 2012 1:24 p.m.

    I know lots and lots of white males who have gotten into business schools. Scads more than the number of minorities I know in those programs. I'm tempted to call the U of U and BYU and ask how many white males they have in their business college vs. minorities. But somehow I think we all know what their answer will be. I would be very interested to see an advertisement for a job opening that said it was only open to a minority. That would be something I have never seen before. Have you actually every seen one of these ads? Or again, did you hear about it on the radio.

    What radio show am I ranting about? Take your pick. Any of those that you listen to.

  • A1994 Centerville, UT
    May 17, 2012 1:05 p.m.

    @LDS Liberal

    I have no doubt you are bitter old white woman. (Name calling isn't very nice, is it?) Liberal Ted's comments reflect a general resentment that is building in this country.

    Most of us take Martin Luther King Jr. at his word when he said people should be judged by the content of their character and not by the color of their skin. What a novel concept. Reality has not been quite as novel.

    Any conservative or traditional thought is dismissed, automatically, by people like yourself as 'angry' or 'racist' or 'far-right wing' or, my personal favorite, 'extremist.'

    The only people in this country who obsess about race, who can let the wounds of the past heal, are liberals. You people have no interest in harmony between the races. With liberals, it is the rich vs poor and middle class, youth vs. the elderly, black vs. white, Hispanic vs. white, gay vs. straight. When does it end? Or would that cause the left to lose their primary campaign tactic: stirring people up to contend with each other. Hope and Change? More like divide and conquer.

  • LDS Liberal Farmington, UT
    May 17, 2012 12:38 p.m.

    Nice “Ted”,
    Let me guess –
    You are grumpy old white guy?

    Your comment smacks of racism.

    Need I remind you, that "Native Americans" were once the majority in this land.
    This is what'cha might call Karma.

    BTW – Please drop the “Liberal” from your moniker, because you aren’t.

  • Liberal Ted Salt Lake City, UT
    May 17, 2012 12:24 p.m.

    @ Wonder

    What radio program are you ranting about? Not sure where you are going with that.

    I was denied access to the business program because I did not fit the profile that they wanted, meaning I am a White Male. However, an Asian female with a full point lower GPA was put into the program and given a scholarship. Is that fair?

    It is well documented of quotas at the University level. They "have" to admit a certain number of various races and genders into the school and programs. Look at SLC and the County that have "diversity" programs where they hire "diverse" people. It was explained to me that if it came down to two candidates and one was a white male and other was a minority or female, that they would have to hire the minority or female over the white male. I told them that was discrimination, and they said it's not. They also have programs to advertise jobs where minorities etc, rather than opening it up to anyone. Is that not discrimination?

    When Universities state they will only admit x number of students, but, need to fill their quota, then they have denied residents.

  • casual observer Salt Lake City, UT
    May 17, 2012 11:48 a.m.

    If someone is a good person who upholds and defends the Constitution, race is not important.

  • Wonder Provo, UT
    May 17, 2012 10:45 a.m.

    @ Liberal Ted -- Who has EVER denied you the right to say the pledge of allegiance. Seriously. Has that EVER happened to you. You know it has not. You heard that it might have happened somewhere (maybe??), so you're sure that it's true. When has a white student EVER been denied admittance to a university so that an illegal alien could be granted admittance. Seriously. Document your claim, because "Well I heard someone ranting about it on talk radio" just doesn't cut it as proof. Yes, I think dark skinned people can be racist. Do I think it's some huge problem in our society? No. I have personally never had any black or Hispanic person treat me in a racist manner. Have you? Personally? Not just something you heard about on your favorite radio program? Get a grip, man. You're like a scared little kid.

  • Liberal Ted Salt Lake City, UT
    May 17, 2012 10:18 a.m.

    @ Wonder

    I never said "only white people fly the flag and say the pledge of allegiance". And you are correct, I am not racists. Which is why I believe everyone should be treated equally and everyone should be proud to be a US citizen.

    Which is why, when illegals walk out of the classroom carrying the Mexican flag; when atheists deny my right to be patriotic in saying the pledge; when illegals are given in state tuition and promoted over others because there are too many "white students enrolled"; when there is a crime against a white person nothing is said in the media; when a half white/half latino kills a black person then the media states that it was a white hate crime against a black person....

    In those situations who is being racists?

    Did you know "Wonder" that people with darker skin color can also be racists? Did you know that most white people and most people for that matter are not racists? Did you know Al Sharpton makes alot of money playing the race card?

  • Wonder Provo, UT
    May 17, 2012 9:36 a.m.

    Yes, Liberal Ted. Because only white people fly the flag and say the pledge of allegiance. And I'm sure you don't think you are one bit racist.

  • Liberal Ted Salt Lake City, UT
    May 17, 2012 6:23 a.m.

    So now that whites are in the minority, I would like some entitlements and tax breaks and a free pass to a college education. I would also like to have special treatment in getting hired and promoted in companies.

    Remember, it is the job of our government and judges to protect the minority race. Also, when there is a white on anyone crime the media needs to cry out and defend the poor helpless white minority....

    I hope that others won't become offended when I fly the flag of the United States or say the pledge of allegiance in school. After all this is still the United States and not some third world country.