Liberal Ted--I'm Hawaiian and have been denied employment several times for
not being of another race. I can affirm that to you, and yes, profiling does
Liberal Ted, I challenge you to an experiment. Take a walk around
your office complex, your building. Count the total number of people and count
the total number of non-white males. I suspect you're very much in the
The educated level of America has moved at the same pace as the growth of
non-whites. Our country's future is bright with equality for all.
@Liberal TedThey aren't a minority. They're still a plurality.
They're only a minority if you define race to be 'white' or
re Liberal Ted Salt Lake City, UT So now that whites are in the
minority, I would like some entitlements and tax breaks and a free pass
to a college education. I would also like to have special treatment in
getting hired and promoted in companies.----Should it
ever become the truth that white people are discrinimated against, as actual
minorities of America have been and to a lesser extent still are, what you are
calling for will make perfect sense.Affirmative action is not
justified, for a minority merely because they are a minority, affirmative action
is to help ensure that the playing field is level due to effects of past and
present discrimination.If you hate affirmative action, the right
thing for you to do, is become the kind of person who isn't contributing to
its continued necessity. Otherwise don't complain about it.
@LiberalTed. One other point then I'll stop my ranting. Whites are
minority only if you include all other non-whites in a single category. That in
and of itself is racist since it assumes all "non-whites" are the same.
You didn't start it. This article did. But perpetuating this concept is
misleading since whites are still the largest group in this country by far.
@LiberalTed - Point taken. You are unhappy that you were denied by a program
even though a person "less qualified" than you was accepted. But
here's my question to you. How do you define qualified? Are GPA and test
scores the only method of measuring qualified?I also don't like
the fact that those less qualified than I have been accepted to Harvard because
of differences in race or gender. But I have also been on the other side,
evaluating candidates to highly selective programs. And guess what. Sometimes
I preferred the black Jewish handicapped woman over the white male, despite the
fact that she was less "qualified". Why? Because we already had a
hundred other white males with identical backgrounds and
"qualifications". But we certainly didn't have a black Jewish
handicapped woman and the perspectives she would bring.It's
hard to put a value on these intangibles but there is certainly value. The same
goes for Mormons, which we also considered (a white male Mormon was more
interesting to us than a plain white male).I don't like quotas
and think they should be avoided. But race, religion, wealth, etc. are all
important to consider.
@Liberal TedNo one is stopping you, or anyone else from that matter,
for taking "advantage" of entitlements. You have ever right to quit
your job, stop paying your bills, get evicted, and put yourself on government
assistance. The only one denying you from those "priviledges" is
A1994CentervilleUT@LDSLiberalI have no doubt you are
bitter old white woman. Liberal Ted's comments reflect a general
resentment that is building in this country. ================== Actually – I’m a middleage, heterosexual, LDS, whiteman,
married w/4children, USAF veteran, and AerospaceEngineer.But, I
speak of racism 2nd hand.I grewup with mixedrace cousins and adopted
minorities.I remember going places and overhearing the racist garbage from
people who thought I wasn’t with “them”.I’m
with DrKing – I judge people by their character, not skin color.and this article is about higher minority birth-rate – babies! and
yet here you are judging babies based on their skin color = that IS racism.You and Liberal Ted, and your “resentment that is building in this
country” will untimely lead to America's eventual downfall and
demise.Read the Book of Mormon.Especially the last
chapters.In the end, God saved the; Commune living, Pipe
smoking, Long haired, Half-necked, Dark-skinned, Non-believing, Immoral, Liberals….…and
instead, destroyed those who should have know better, and didn’t.
@A1994 -- Please re-read Liberal Ted's first comment. Do you seriously
think that it promoted harmony between the races? How is it promoting harmony
to say that minorities are the only ones who get entitlements, tax breaks and a
free education? How is it promoting harmony to say that the media only cares
when minorities are injured by crime? Why is saying any of those things
considered an old fashioned value that you want to protect? Why is it divisive
to point out that those statements are, frankly, unacceptable? Stereotyping is
ugly, and I'll call it as I see it. I'm not trying to divide anybody.
I'm trying to get people like Liberal Ted to see that what HE is saying is
divisive. Dark-skinned people are not out to get you, so relax.
I know lots and lots of white males who have gotten into business schools.
Scads more than the number of minorities I know in those programs. I'm
tempted to call the U of U and BYU and ask how many white males they have in
their business college vs. minorities. But somehow I think we all know what
their answer will be. I would be very interested to see an advertisement for a
job opening that said it was only open to a minority. That would be something I
have never seen before. Have you actually every seen one of these ads? Or
again, did you hear about it on the radio.What radio show am I
ranting about? Take your pick. Any of those that you listen to.
@LDS LiberalI have no doubt you are bitter old white woman. (Name
calling isn't very nice, is it?) Liberal Ted's comments reflect a
general resentment that is building in this country. Most of us
take Martin Luther King Jr. at his word when he said people should be judged by
the content of their character and not by the color of their skin. What a novel
concept. Reality has not been quite as novel. Any conservative or
traditional thought is dismissed, automatically, by people like yourself as
'angry' or 'racist' or 'far-right wing' or, my
personal favorite, 'extremist.' The only people in this
country who obsess about race, who can let the wounds of the past heal, are
liberals. You people have no interest in harmony between the races. With
liberals, it is the rich vs poor and middle class, youth vs. the elderly, black
vs. white, Hispanic vs. white, gay vs. straight. When does it end? Or would
that cause the left to lose their primary campaign tactic: stirring people up to
contend with each other. Hope and Change? More like divide and conquer.
Nice “Ted”, Let me guess – You are grumpy old
white guy?Your comment smacks of racism.Need I remind
you, that "Native Americans" were once the majority in this land.This is what'cha might call Karma.BTW – Please drop the
“Liberal” from your moniker, because you aren’t.
@ WonderWhat radio program are you ranting about? Not sure where
you are going with that.I was denied access to the business program
because I did not fit the profile that they wanted, meaning I am a White Male.
However, an Asian female with a full point lower GPA was put into the program
and given a scholarship. Is that fair?It is well documented of
quotas at the University level. They "have" to admit a certain number of
various races and genders into the school and programs. Look at SLC and the
County that have "diversity" programs where they hire "diverse"
people. It was explained to me that if it came down to two candidates and one
was a white male and other was a minority or female, that they would have to
hire the minority or female over the white male. I told them that was
discrimination, and they said it's not. They also have programs to
advertise jobs where minorities etc, rather than opening it up to anyone. Is
that not discrimination?When Universities state they will only admit
x number of students, but, need to fill their quota, then they have denied
If someone is a good person who upholds and defends the Constitution, race is
@ Liberal Ted -- Who has EVER denied you the right to say the pledge of
allegiance. Seriously. Has that EVER happened to you. You know it has not.
You heard that it might have happened somewhere (maybe??), so you're sure
that it's true. When has a white student EVER been denied admittance to a
university so that an illegal alien could be granted admittance. Seriously.
Document your claim, because "Well I heard someone ranting about it on talk
radio" just doesn't cut it as proof. Yes, I think dark skinned people
can be racist. Do I think it's some huge problem in our society? No. I
have personally never had any black or Hispanic person treat me in a racist
manner. Have you? Personally? Not just something you heard about on your
favorite radio program? Get a grip, man. You're like a scared little kid.
@ WonderI never said "only white people fly the flag and say the
pledge of allegiance". And you are correct, I am not racists. Which is why
I believe everyone should be treated equally and everyone should be proud to be
a US citizen.Which is why, when illegals walk out of the classroom
carrying the Mexican flag; when atheists deny my right to be patriotic in saying
the pledge; when illegals are given in state tuition and promoted over others
because there are too many "white students enrolled"; when there is a
crime against a white person nothing is said in the media; when a half
white/half latino kills a black person then the media states that it was a white
hate crime against a black person....In those situations who is
being racists? Did you know "Wonder" that people with
darker skin color can also be racists? Did you know that most white people and
most people for that matter are not racists? Did you know Al Sharpton makes alot
of money playing the race card?
Yes, Liberal Ted. Because only white people fly the flag and say the pledge of
allegiance. And I'm sure you don't think you are one bit racist.
So now that whites are in the minority, I would like some entitlements and tax
breaks and a free pass to a college education. I would also like to have special
treatment in getting hired and promoted in companies.Remember, it is
the job of our government and judges to protect the minority race. Also, when
there is a white on anyone crime the media needs to cry out and defend the poor
helpless white minority....I hope that others won't become
offended when I fly the flag of the United States or say the pledge of
allegiance in school. After all this is still the United States and not some
third world country.