Marriage strong among college educated, but 'retreat from marriage' under way among others

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  • jenkers Salt Lake City, UT
    May 16, 2012 9:08 p.m.

    JRGL: If you read the article, the speakers were not from the foundation. The speakers are from the University of Virginia.

  • JSB Sugar City, ID
    May 13, 2012 9:46 p.m.

    For our ancestors, marriage and children were a kind of social security. Families stayed together in part because of economic reality. The economic pressures aren't as great now which has caused the divorce rate to go up. Women have more freedom. But, the unintended consequence of this is that there are many, many more children being raised in broken homes and suffering the serious emotional effects of the divorce. This will be very costly to our society. How healthy can our society be if half our children are crippled by divorce? If we can't find some way of reducing the number of divorces, our society will fall apart.

  • Joggle Clearfield, UT
    May 12, 2012 1:01 p.m.

    MyChildrensKeeper makes some valid points! If you have substantial assets that you've built together during a marriage compliments of your education that brought you a good income to purchase houses, cars, yachts, stocks and bonds, retirement funds and other investments that are registered in both your names, then you may really want to think long and hard about filing for a divorce. You may even stay in an unhappy or superficial marriage because to end it would be financially devestating. I know couples like this. Thus--in this respect--education and financial success without education can be harmful to marriage. When a less educated couple with fewer assets and money realize they're no longer in love, it is easier to separate or divorce without any financial worries to consider. I was a single mother which eventually cohabitated with a man that is now my husband while raising 2 children who are today doing well with one having a college degree. I became better off financially because of divorce and my children turned out fine. As one commenter said--this article is just a lot of put downs. It is supported by a questionable source!

  • Cats Somewhere in Time, UT
    May 12, 2012 12:55 p.m.

    Wow. Sounds like some bitter divorced people on here

  • cjb Bountiful, UT
    May 12, 2012 11:26 a.m.

    re MyChildrensKeeper
    Taylorsville, UT

    Education is more harmful than being uneducated


    If I didn't already know people from Taylorsville, you might be able to give me the impression that it is a pretty backward place.

    On university education, don't knock it until you've tried it. You might be surprised at the new wonderful world it opens up to you.

  • jrgl CEDAR CITY, UT
    May 12, 2012 9:08 a.m.

    "GFC foundation of Utah", a quick internet search reveals they are a family of investment managers from Orem who are meeting at a swanky hotel. They are supporters of the Heritage Foundation, no surprise, owners of the American Heritage School & gave $5.7 million in grants to the LDS church in 2007. How are they able to make such broad & prejudiced statements concerning the state of marriage and college educated?
    There are no solutions in this article, just a lot of put downs on anyone that doesn't fit their slim mold of success. I guess we should all be college educated children of investment managers who have been rich since the depression and handed down such wealth to their children. That would give us the right to pontificate at a luxury hotel in SLC on marriage and children without any constructive ideas on how to improve the situation for the uneducated singles with children. Just pompous blame here, nothing else.

  • KJB1 Eugene, OR
    May 12, 2012 9:01 a.m.

    Excellent points, Roland, but that would lead to CommieFascistSocialism, and we can't have that. Handing out tax cuts to the wealthy and slashing the safety net, that's what real "family values" are.


  • twinfallsid TWIN FALLS, ID
    May 12, 2012 8:55 a.m.

    "Education is more harmful than being uneducated"

    Thanks for getting my day started with the best laugh I've had in a long time!
    If there are people out there who believe this then we are in real trouble!

    D&C 130:18-19.

  • Roland Kayser Cottonwood Heights, UT
    May 12, 2012 8:12 a.m.

    Fifty years ago a male high school graduate could be confident that he would earn enough money to support a family, so they got married and had one. A male high school graduate today has virtually no hope of making that much money, at least not for many, many years. So they don't get married. As fewer marriages occur in the working class, it becomes more socially acceptable to not marry.

    The economy and the culture are totally intertwined. They can't be separated. If we want stable families, restoring working class wages would be the best place to start.

  • milhouse Atlanta, GA
    May 12, 2012 7:48 a.m.

    So colleges turn people into liberals who also disapprove of teen marriage, divorce, and marry at higher rates. What do republicans say about this?

  • MyChildrensKeeper Taylorsville, UT
    May 12, 2012 7:12 a.m.

    It's all an illusion with no basis or fact except they may have stayed in school longer. Eduction is a matter of deception, not fact.

    Marriage has nothing to do with education, religion, or commitment. Marriage is a matter of convenience in religion, taxes, and society. The only reason the educated seem to stay Togolese longer is the massive and larger accumulation of debt they are accountable for before they can divorce so the separate and cohabitant to reduce debt so they can get the divorce. The poor just have less debt and can end marriage faster. Education is more harmful than being uneducated, its a social deception that is becoming exposed.

    Education is sure trying to take a lot of credit for social success to credit education and its become the new social search. Education has become the new standard by how government and society must become. We cannot deny education if properly taught its due merits but it has nothing to do with social standards acquired from family and parents.

    Education is a tool, not a lifestyle or social standard.

  • Cats Somewhere in Time, UT
    May 12, 2012 6:54 a.m.

    You can't break the rules. Marriage leads to more happiness, stable cildren and success in life. Cohabitation leads to instability, insecurity and unhappiness. Wow, maybe God knows what he's talking about!