Picturing history: Haun's Mill

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  • OnlytheCross Bakersfield, CA
    May 10, 2012 6:53 p.m.

    I feel that the Church should allow the Cross to be restored to its original placement (1859, by Army Maj. Carleton) on top of the cairn.

    By not allowing the Fancher-Baker ancestors to replace the Cross, which was/is the symbol of their Christian faith, this leaves the impression that they are still controlling access to the location where non-LDS graves are.

    Reading LDS author's books will reveal who allowed it first to be removed, and how many times subsequent it has been destroyed by locals. None of the Fancher family groups can understand this. They said they would have given church access to Haun's Mill long ago. And if an Angel Moroni statue was removed from any historical site, they would help replace it.

    This is the type of kindness shown the LDS church by the COC. Now let's see if SLC will respond "in kind."

  • procuradorfiscal Tooele, UT
    May 10, 2012 5:16 p.m.

    Re: "I hope the Church doesn't busy it up with a bunch of paving, visitor's centers, and so on. I'd love to see it remain much as it is."

    Well, in the parallel universe in which you own the property, you may see it remain much as it is to your heart's content.

    In this universe, however, I suspect the Church will do with property what it wants and/or has agreed to do in any deed restrictions or covenants that may exist, under any land-use controls or regulations that may apply.

    Meaning both of you may have find someone else's pristine and peaceful property to visit and attempt to control.

  • OnlytheCross Bakersfield, CA
    May 10, 2012 2:01 p.m.

    I agree totally 100%! Let members visit the historical sites in situ, as much as possible. If there are structures or grave sites to preserve, then extra efforts are warranted. If many visitors begin to go, at least a small parking lot (and restrooms) could be set far enough away to preserve the area for viewing. But by cordoning off/protection efforts, you can also preserve the pristine area from those who would damage it by over-running or over-use.

    The MMM site also needed intervention to preserve the cairn and graves. A small asphalt parking lot was put in
    so area wasn't overrun, and an Andy Gump was erected in 2007, before the 150 anniversary program. The issue of protecting the graves was also settled.

  • MN_curmudgeon ANDOVER, MN
    May 10, 2012 8:16 a.m.

    As someone who visits the site with some regularity, I love the pristine and peaceful nature of it. I hope the Church doesn't busy it up with a bunch of paving, visitor's centers, and so on. I'd love to see it remain much as it is.