Occupy movement aims for resurgence with May 1 protests, strike

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  • one old man Ogden, UT
    May 3, 2012 2:05 p.m.

    Rifle -- Actually most of us are not camping out. Most of us have jobs or are retired. Most of us are clean with a shower every day. (And, by the way, a little grammar lesson here: check out the difference between the words "bath" and "bathe" and then see if you can learn to use them properly.)

    The thing that unites all of us the our disgust with the sleaze that has overtaken our public officials, bankers, investors, corporations, and other powerful entities that now control and diminish so much of the lives of common Americans.

    You might be surprised if you would turn your radio off and get away from your keyboard for a while to come down to meet and talk with us.

  • Rifleman Salt Lake City, Utah
    May 2, 2012 11:20 a.m.

    Re: George Bronx, NY
    "I know several people that live here in NY and have gone down to wall street to join in protesting and every single one of them works full-time."

    Yeah right!! Who would employ someone who lives in a tent, doesn't bath, uses the street for a latrine, and hasn't had a haircut in months?

  • county mom Monroe, UT
    May 1, 2012 11:13 p.m.

    I have looked up the occupy protests on google. It says one thing and everyone that is interveiwed on the news has a different agenda. I am just confused, do they want everyone else to provide for them? Do they want jobs that pay better, less rich people, less business, better healthcare, less hospitals, legal marijuana, government child support, less people, cleaner enviroment, more police, less police, more government, less government, no government? I have heard all these things.

  • Tolstoy salt lake, UT
    May 1, 2012 9:12 p.m.

    @counter intelligence
    less then three minutes on a google search and I was able to find their message and their purpose maybe there is a reason you have not bothered to look, maybe you are once again showing your true colors. After complaining about how uncivil people are attacking you all the time you once again turn around and do the same thing. look them up address their positions. stop with the petty attacks.

  • Rifleman Salt Lake City, Utah
    May 1, 2012 2:51 p.m.

    Re: Mike123 Layton, UT
    "Let me rephrase, our society, at the very least, make it very difficult for everyone to succeed, especially certain groups"

    It was never the intention of our Founding Fathers, society in general, or the US Constitution specifically to make sure that everybody succeeds. That is the personal responsibility of each and every citizen in our society. If someone is disabled or has some other handicap we want to help.

    Certainly people don't have the right to demand that the rich support them. Let the healthy who have the time to protest carry their own load and the load of their neighbor.

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    May 1, 2012 2:47 p.m.

    don't these clueless kids have summer jobs??? Maybe they ought to do 'occupy White House' since their fearless leader is the one with all the shovel ready jobs.

  • Mike123 Layton, UT
    May 1, 2012 1:24 p.m.

    -Let me rephrase, our society, at the very least, make it very difficult for everyone to succeed, especially certain groups. Also, how do we define success? I don't think working hard flipping hamburgers allows success at the going minimum wage. For many, work does not work.
    -I know people often make poor decisions, but it is much more effective lending them a hand (improving their situation) then to judge and get after them.
    -Because, as a society, we are not generous enough to help others, the government has no choice but to tax in order to provide programs that improve the situations of the less-fortunate.
    -Again, the wealthy and powerful own the game, they have taken advantage of the majority of society, we are not trying to take from others but simply trying to bring fairness to the rules of the game (see my prior post).

  • Rifleman Salt Lake City, Utah
    May 1, 2012 12:27 p.m.

    Re: Mike123 Layton, UT
    "Many people fail, despite their hard work, because our society does not allow everyone to succeed"

    Our society does not prevent anyone from succeeding. We allow individuals to take personal responsibility, and the associated consequences, for their actions. There is nothing "Christ-like" about forcing those who have to give unto them who want what they haven't earned.

  • Mike123 Layton, UT
    May 1, 2012 11:49 a.m.

    @Brave Sir Robin and most everyone else
    Many people fail, despite their hard work, because our society does not allow everyone to succeed. Therefore, structural changes toward a “functional society” are necessary so that everyone can succeed. You argue that individual choices cause their depressed condition, I agree that is a factor, but both scholars and religious principles teach the best way to influence other’s choices is by improving their situations.

    Here are a few suggestions: Reinstate pre 1980s bank and financial sector regulations, reinstate the Glass-Steagall Act, reverse the court ruling that corporations are people, stop heavy corporate funding to political campaigns, not allow corporate leaders to hold top governmental positions, remove wealthy tax cuts and evasions, remove corporate welfare, limit the rising tuition costs, increase minimum wage alongside inflation, limit the aspects of “free trade” that globalize jobs, and stop the negligence of government and financial institutions upon poor communities through—community development, affordable housing, health care, and transportation, effective schools, and employment opportunities.

    Government must re-evaluate the many other policies that allow the wealthiest to become richer while the remainder of society struggle.

  • Rifleman Salt Lake City, Utah
    May 1, 2012 10:08 a.m.

    Re: one old man Ogden, UT

    "From each according to his ability, to each according to his need." - Karl Marx

    People who have time to protest have the time to flip burgers. Taxpayers and those who have worked hard for what they have saved in the bank don't owe these protesters a free ride through life.

  • SLC gal Salt Lake City, UT
    May 1, 2012 9:10 a.m.

    What they're doing is eqivalent to standing in front a stove, and saying you give me heat, and I'll give you wood. It would be easier to take them seriously if ANY Of them actually knew what they were talking about. Seriously, they all have their own agendas, NONE of which are cohesive.

  • Brave Sir Robin San Diego, CA
    May 1, 2012 8:38 a.m.

    You could add any shooting guard in the league, as well as any decent outside shooter. The reason is not a coincidence - the Jazz can't guard the perimeter. Actually, the Jazz couldn't guard a dog food dish to keep mice away.

  • Brave Sir Robin San Diego, CA
    May 1, 2012 8:35 a.m.


    Explain to me how the actions of OWS are doing anything to create a "functional society"? Functional society depends on the masses pursuing education and doing hard work - there is nothing educational or hard-working about what's happening at OWS protests, and yes, I have stood in Zucotti Park with them.

    This type of behavior (shouting loudly for the educated/hard working to be torn down) is the kind of thing you see on a daily basis in the 3rd-world countries of Central America - hardly the model of "functional society."

  • procuradorfiscal Tooele, UT
    May 1, 2012 4:31 a.m.

    Yawn . . . .

  • Mike123 Layton, UT
    April 30, 2012 10:29 p.m.

    I am a hardworking middle class family man, and I will be marching tomorrow. I have compassion on the poor, and instead of pointing the finger at them, I realize the Christ-like thing is to help them with their situation. Occupy is not trying to create an entitlement society, they are trying to create a functional society. The rich and powerful, typically both corporations and government leaders, expand their wealth and power at the expense of others (the poor often being hit the hardest). We will protest because our democracy no longer represents the majority of society. You call occupy members social outcasts; decide now to stop belittling and instead reach out a hand, march with us tomorrow for a better society.

  • George Bronx, NY
    April 30, 2012 9:56 p.m.

    @country mom
    why do you erroneously assume that the occupy wall street people do not work? I know several people that live here in NY and have gone down to wall street to join in protesting and every single one of them works full-time. its easier to try to paint the protesters with a wide and inaccurate brush but it does nothing to address their actual reasons for being there. maybe you should take a little time to find out what the actual concerns are rather then build straw men to knock down.

  • county mom Monroe, UT
    April 30, 2012 9:36 p.m.

    I know handicapped people that work. I know college students that work full time while they take classes. I volunteered for an organization just to get my foot in the door and worked two part time jobs to pay my bills. These people are full of enough ambition to occupy and protest but, they want wealth and jobs to be handed to them. There is no shame in minimum wage, it is somewhere to start. Most of those of us who have lived a full life started as starving students and worked our way up. Newly Weds with no furniture, in a one room appartment eating Macaroni and cheese and peanutbutter sandwiches. I just do not understand these people wasting their time protesting others wealth.
    If there is anything preventing the growth of our nation and the availability of well paying jobs, it is an over regulating over reaching government.

  • one old man Ogden, UT
    April 30, 2012 6:58 p.m.

    Farrah and Mom, you need to take a field trip to meet some of these people. You might learn something and it could surprise you.

  • Kith Huntington Beach, CA
    April 30, 2012 6:50 p.m.

    I wish they would think a little. The world would be so much better if everyone simply used their brains.

  • county mom Monroe, UT
    April 30, 2012 6:24 p.m.

    Whose fault is it really that they don't have jobs? Whose fault is it that they don't have any wealth?

  • farrahsmiles west jordan, utah
    April 30, 2012 5:43 p.m.

    So are these losers EVER going to get a job?