Clinched: After season-long struggle, Utah Jazz secure spot in playoffs

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  • mattb7 Sterling, VA
    April 25, 2012 10:30 p.m.

    If ya got a free pony, would you focus only on the manure you'd have to pick up?

    Whining about giving up lottery picks now? Really? How about taking a couple happy pills and recognizing that (1) The Jazz just delivered one of the more exciting seasons in years; (2) The Jazz already have most of the pieces--including the rarest of all, playoff-level team chemistry--to make deep playoff runs in the next few years?

    Sure, we need to snag young legs and high potential in a point guard as we express gratitude and bid Watson farewell.

    Tinsley--half the team--needs to pick up three-point shooting during the off-season.

    Kantor needs to get as strong holding, protecting the ball as he is in pumping iron.

    But let's try to find a sliver of hot in the blazing sun directly ahead.

  • coleman51 Orem, UT
    April 25, 2012 8:50 p.m.

    Now that we barely got in the playoffs, what do we get from that. First, a likely first-round sweep and we will be out. Next, a loss of a lottery pick. I am sure that Minnesota sent flowers to the Jazz ownership to extend their congratulations for making the playoffs (and giving back their pick for the Jefferson trade). After that, the uncertainty that if Golden State continues to tank, we will lose the Golden State lottery pick. The likelihood of that happening is very high after losing to of all teams, New Orleans. So by giving up two lottery picks, the Jazz will have no picks in the first round. Some may say we have other ways to make a play for the lottery, but at what price? A major trade that could be very costly to the Jazz will be likely if we want a lottery pick. Is that worth it? I have serious doubts that it will be.

  • Kakashi Tokyo, Japan
    April 25, 2012 8:20 p.m.

    @Old Timer

    im asking the same question myself...i would really want to see some tape of Ante Tomic...i want to see if he has the same desire to get the rebound like Kanter...i did saw one clip on him on youtube...he has nimble feet for a 7 footer...but it wasnt enough for me to gauge his potential and talent....i hope he can play for us

  • Kakashi Tokyo, Japan
    April 25, 2012 5:53 p.m.

    @Resolute Voice and to others that agree with him

    there is no guarantee...that we would get a top 10 pick if we'd lose...and there is no guarantee that we would get a good player from the are some players that weren't drafted in the lottery but are good players who made an impact on their respective teams: Manu Ginobili, Monta Ellis, Tony Parker, Stephen Jackson, Rashard Lewis, Andrei Kirilenko, Michael Redd, Gerald Wallace,Paul Millsap, Carlos Boozer, etc...the list goes on and on...proving you guys otherwise...there are a lot of draft busts and a lot of draft gems...its the scouts and brass' work to determine which are gems...and which are your point of tanking games is doesnt guarantee a championship...or a many years have other teams been at a bottom before cracking the playoffs?

  • Old Timer the boonies, mexico
    April 25, 2012 5:10 p.m.

    Nothing is lost by winning for sure. More than likely we will get the 8 or 9th pick in this draft and we will have some openings when Miles, Bell, Watson and maybe one more are let go elsewhere. Now can anyone from the D-News or connections to Jazz management tell me about 2 picks from a few years ago and where they are in the Jazz plans if at all? They are Ante Tomic - 7'1" 225# 25 yr old center from Croatia and Tadija Dragievic a 26 year old 6'9" #235 forward from Serbia. What are they doing now and are they in any plans? Someone please respond if you know anything about them. Thank you.

  • Bacapo Delta, UT
    April 25, 2012 3:20 p.m.

    I ll take the playoff experience over the draft pick any day! Especially with this young team that is full of talent, but short on experience. Dont forget about what it will do for the confidence of guys like Hayward, Favors, and Burks, and even Harris and Jefferson as leaders. oh and bytheway we will get a great pick from Golden State, so all is not lost. It's about winning. the Jazz don't tank, and I would be ashamed if they did, you might be tempted to say that trading D will was tanking, but that was the smartest trade that has happened over the last few years. Look what we got out of it. Devin Harris is starting to make us forget about Williams, and Favors is an absolute beast. How bout we be happy for the Jazz?, its the time of the year where Utah and BYU fans can be friends, so please just calm down people. Be Happy and Bring on the Spurs!

  • Pugman TREMONTON, UT
    April 25, 2012 2:53 p.m.

    Pretty sure I understand that. Just making a comment about something that comes up automatically on these sports boards. If you read the comment you'll understand it was directed at all things negative. That being said, I again got a Ute fan to comment and make them think it's all about isn't. Good luck in the playoffs Jazz, it will be fun to see how these youngsters grow and develop under pressure, even if it's at the peril of a draft pick.

    April 25, 2012 2:33 p.m.

    Pretty sure this article is about the Jazz, not Utah-BYU. With that said, this Jazz (and Ute) fan will be cheering for the Jazz to be successful in the playoffs. Cheering for your team in the playoffs is way more fun then cheering for your team to pick the right ping-pong ball. Let's go Jazz!

  • ouisc Farmington, UT
    April 25, 2012 2:28 p.m.

    Getting to the postseason ruined our chance at getting a decent player in the draft? LOL. How has the "high draft pick" strategy worked for the Warriors? Bobcats? Cavaliers? Kings? Clippers? It takes WAAAY more than one high draft pick to put a postseason-quality team together.

    Congratulations to the Utah Jazz on this amazing accomplishment. Playing the Spurs will be an honor--take it to them, and learn from the best. Let's go Jazz!

  • Man in Charge Washington, DC
    April 25, 2012 12:54 p.m.

    Resolute voice

    If you want the jazz to tank you are cheering for the wrong team. You need to go cheer for Golden State or the Bobcats. Let them tell you how successful they have been at tanking. Oh but wait a minute, the Jazz will most likely have the Warriors pick anyhow so there is no reason for them to tank is there?

  • Dustin Idaho Falls, ID
    April 25, 2012 10:34 a.m.

    I don't understand how drafting another immature player would be better for this team than giving them playoff experience. You can always buy new players, but you cannot buy playoff experience. There are 7 very good players on this team who have never been to the playoffs. If we are serious about our team actually making a championship run someday, we need them to understand how different the playoffs are as opposed to the regular season.

    Please name me a team in the history of the NBA that turned into a contender after tanking just to get a draft pick. The closest I can come up with is the Spurs, who drafted Duncan after a season without David Robinson. However they didn't lose any games on purpose, they were just not good without their superstar.

  • wealth53 orem, utah
    April 25, 2012 10:10 a.m.

    Resolute voice, your comment does not makes sense, the jazz out of the playoff would have not guarantee a good pick. The best that could happen, it happened, going to the playoff! this team is full of great talent, even if they are blow out of the water in the playoff, it is going to be a great experience for most of those guys, including the coach, and that is guaranteed. This team is probably only one man away plus experience in being a great team, and that man is hard to get from a lottery pick, I think it may comes from a trade, or even from within. Also, I applaud management and coach Corbin in going for the win, it is what winners do in life, they don't fold "hopping" for lady luck smiling on a loser, only cowards and losers do that. Lady luck smile to those who have the courage to win! How do you explain to a kid? "son, sometimes in life you must quit in order to "hope" that you may have a break in life"

  • Pugman TREMONTON, UT
    April 25, 2012 9:53 a.m.

    @ Brave Sir Robin:
    Typical Ute fan...always bashing something positive. As I've said on previous BYU posts, I've never seen so many Ute fans that celebrate mediocrity. Your post once again proves this point. Lose on purpose for a better draft pick. You have got to be kidding! Go back to cheering for Ute basketball, where every win is not only a's a milestone.

  • bikelehi Lehi, UT
    April 25, 2012 9:02 a.m.

    Sorry Resolute, I believe you are wrong. The Jazz already have enough young talent, what they lack is relevant experience. This experience comes in the playoffs. The experience they get playing in the playoffs (and for this last push to get in) will be much more beneficial to this team.

    But, I guess we won't really know who is right until a while down the road...

    GO JAZZ! Let's do some upsetting.

  • Brave Sir Robin San Diego, CA
    April 25, 2012 9:00 a.m.

    Congratulations've just earned the right to be swept by San Antonio! And in the process, you cost yourself a shot at getting a decent player in the draft. The good news is that, thanks to the fact that he gets extra ticket revenue without paying additional salary to the players, Greg Miller gets to turn a profit this season.

  • JBQ Saint Louis, MO
    April 25, 2012 8:56 a.m.

    I agree with "resolute voice".

  • LindonMan Lindon, UT
    April 25, 2012 8:55 a.m.

    @ Resolute Voice

    You're kidding right? There is absolutely no way having this team lose would be better! Now our boys get needed playoff experience and will grow and mature even more! Oh and btw, we can still get Golden State's pick; this draft doesn't look as good as original hyped up to be either.

  • Mountain Bird West Jordan, UT
    April 25, 2012 8:19 a.m.

    I think playoff experience for these young players will outweigh the draft pick we lost in terms of benefit to the franchise. For all the good or great players the Jazz has drafted over the years, there has been an equal or greater number of busts.

  • fish8 Vernal, UT
    April 25, 2012 8:01 a.m.

    To play for a higher draft pick is always wrong. I watched Golden State and Tampa Bay get high draft picks for years and never do anything. You take what you have and do your best. There are lots of mid range draft picks who are super stars and many high picks who never amounted to much. Sloan was great at taking a good player and making them better, that's how to get a good team, not to lose games and hope to draft a ready made star.

  • Hugh G. Hater Swat Lake City, UT
    April 25, 2012 7:25 a.m.

    Burks' quick five points late in the game killed Phoenix's momentum and allowed Big Al to get back to work.

    It is a young team and playoff experience should not be traded for picks who have never played in the NBA.

  • scalman Temecula, CA
    April 25, 2012 5:37 a.m.

    Nice team win. I especially enjoyed watching Favors do his thing on the defensive end. Now, for an added bonus, let's hope Golden State can beat San Antonio in Oakland Thursday - San Antonio will probably be resting Duncan, Parker and Ginobili in that one. If that doesn't happen, the fate of Golden State's draft pick will likely be decided with a coin flip.

  • Kakashi Tokyo, Japan
    April 25, 2012 5:24 a.m.

    I just had to ask...would it be different? if we had CJ Miles and Raja Bell playing?...they will take minutes from Hayward Caroll and Burks

  • forgetyourself Layton, UT
    April 25, 2012 3:17 a.m.

    This young Jazz team reminds me of the Last Detroit Champs. They are a true team and have a great coach. When the Jazz are under pressure it seems like they shine the brightest. Playoffs will be fun to watch for sure.

  • Resolute Voice Deseret, UT
    April 25, 2012 1:34 a.m.

    The Jazz are in the postseason but at what cost? The Jazz needed a high lottery pick to give them additional options for the future. Now they will be stuck with a marginal player that will contribute very little. While the win is impressive it may have done more damage to the long term viability of this team. In two more years the developed players will move on to bigger markets leaving the Jazz in the same position they were in last season. Yes it was a great win, but do not be surprised if it was actually a loss down the road. A lottery pick would have meant more than meaningless home playoff games and being embarrassed by the Spurs in the first round.