Funny. This is about entertainment, not education. I think the entertainment
value will diminish with the move of the student section. Those who think the
alumni 'fund' (through tithing I assume) sports are not correct. We
supplement the tuition.The athletics department is self-funding (think
ESPN Contract, 20,000 bball fans buying tickets/concessions 15 times a year,
60,000+ fball fans buying tickets/concessions 6 times a year, 3,000 vball fans
24 times a year, etc. oh, and all of us buying BYU sports replica jerseys).
People, listen.The Student section is not going away! It is moving!
There will still be approx. 5,000 student tickets available. Student All Sports
Passes will cost the same, which means that a Student Basket Ball ticket costs,
on average, less than $4.00. The Students will also be under the opposing teams
basket during the ever so crucial second half of the games. This will be a
huuuuge advantage for BYU. Last year, at the SDSU vs Jimmer game, my
wife and I both noticed that the old fogies occupying the seats under the
opposing basket didn't even so much as wave their arms when SDSU would
shoot a free throw. That will not be the case anymore. Plus, now students will
be closer to the cheer leaders, so they will get more freebies, i.e. t-shirts,
mini-balls, hot-dogs, etc.
Dick,Let's not give too much credit to today's students
for what was done by yesterday's students.
one possible drawback for making the change, even from a financial perspective,
is that the atmosphere the players experience will be worse, and therefore BYU
might have a harder time landing big-time recruits such as Jabari Parker. I
realize its far from a guarantee that he would come anyways, but adults are far
less passionate in their cheering than the students are. If I were a star, I
might be slightly swayed by what school offered the funner environment to play
in. If BYU ever landed a recruit like Jabari Parker, they might earn some of
that money back by advancing further in the NCAA tournament.
A BYU student's tuition is subsidized by me. They should sit in the
rafters or pay their full share of the real tuition costs.They should feel
lucky that Tom is putting them behind one of the baskets, I would have put them
up-top. They have every right to buy the good seats just like anyone else.
I recognize that the Marriott Center is for "Students" but it was not
built by these students. It was built on the back of "we" students over
the past forty years. I was there during the 80's for almost every game.
I had good seats and bad seats. But then the University gave me a degree
(actually two) and I got a job. Now I make money by going to work and I realize
that it is people like me that really pay the bills. The student get a free
ride for a few years and then hopefully pay for the future as well.So lets be practical here. Great seats can go to "Students" - the
ones who work and pay for those great seats. We call them Alumni. I agree
that it is late in the game for me - who had some good seats - to say this but
the truth is that it is good to aspire to great seats and greats seats goto
those who work hard and support the team, not just for a few games while they
are at school but for a life time. Which now thirty years later I still do.
So... I believe the compromise AD Holmoe came up with is best. Give them an
unobstructing section of their own under the west basket. Same number of seats
and being chair seats, better seats. The noise level from the same number of
students will be the same. Ushers will still have to tell them to get out of the
same seat and they will and then sneak back, but, who cares.It's a nice problem to have unlike the Huntsman Mausoleum where their
students have abandoned their team.
On one hand I don't like anything in college athletics which seeks to
exclude college students from attending -- it's their university and
college experience which really matters. The rest of us are bystanders even
though we think we're the "funders" (which we are) and should have
precedence (which we shouldn't).On the other hand, the students
are their own worst enemies. When they occupy the center section of the Marriott
Center, they add a clear dynamic and atmosphere to the game, yet their
self-centered nature leads them to cheat and occupy spaces they didn't buy
-- packing 20 students into a section where there are 10 seats. Then they stand
the whole game and those to their left or right cannot see the game they paid to
But the bottom line is, BYU has exceeded their athletics what sort of league
they can academically fit into, and this has all come at the expense of Utah
State University over the past half century. Senior LDS Church leaders are
reluctant to let BYU become more of a research university, which means THEY
WON'T be joining the Big 12, Pac-12 or any other league dominated by
research degree awarding institutions. If anything BYU should be cutting back
the capacity of the Marriot Center (going to all chair seats would make the
capacity still nearly 18,000-19,000), and since this independence thing in
football won't work for very long, just plan on dropping football and
demolishing LES. Better yet, make Provo like Rexburg!
Didn't BYU say that there were only about 400 of those original two
generation ticket holders left? That isn't too many and I'd guess
that within 5-10 more years almost all of them will be gone. It really
isn't an issue. I like the idea of the students being closer to
the action. They already pay almost nothing to go the the games and their
tuition is very low compared to the value of their education. There isn't
a whole lot of room to complain.I also like the fact that they are
going to have $50 season tickets in the cheap seats. A family could afford
that. I know I've appreciated the games where they sold tickets for $1.
That is unheard of but allowed us to go to a few games when the kids were
young.Tom Holmoe is making some good decisions.I guess
if the students want better seats, they could go to a game at the U. I hear you
can pick whatever seat you want there since nobody is using them.
I hate to see the great cheering students moved. They have stepped up and made
the games much more exciting.