@ Nan BW"Should we just tell those hardworking ranch owners who
have owned land there for varying lengths of time, 'Tough. Find something
else to do.' ?"Isn't that what happened to the indians
when we came over to this continent?! So are we now getting back what we dished
out as we settled across the West?? I don't like it now and I'm sure
the natives didn't like it back then...@ Cato"We should be about conservation, not preservation. Wise use of resources,
not non-use."I agree with that statement 100%! I would also add
my opinion, that if there was a place to drill for oil or other natural
resources, I'd rather see them do it in the remote sliver of the AZ Strip
than somewhere like Moab or Kanab or the San Rafael Swell areas.
Yes, the strip is in Arizona, but it is isolated from that state and mostly used
by Utahns. No commercial use of the land? Ranchers have made living by grazing
cattle on the otherwise unprofitable land for generations. Providing an income
and family life for those in a rural spot most couldn't find on a map.
Tourism dollars only go so far. No civilization has come about without
developing resources, either farmed or mind. As we've become so used to our
wealth and excess, we have forgotten where it came from. We have a tendency to
do that with our bellies full and pantry's stocked. Some say protect the
West? That's nice of the East to say after they've developed
everything they have. You be the playground for everyone else. And good luck
trying to pay for your school kids without any private land to generate a tax
base. We should be about conservation, not preservation. Wise use of resources,
It looks like the ambition of Utah lawmakers isn't just to control the
federal lands in Utah, but to control those in Arizona. Have they forgotten the
Arizona Strip is not in Utah?
You never really say why not. Just because Utah officials don't like
federal management of lands? There is no obvious commercial use for the land, it
is in another state, and in all my years, I have never seen any one care about
this land. Access to it has always been a big problem. So why not? What real
difference will it make?
Re: "State and local governments are too easily swayed by powerful special
interests."That's liberalspeak for, "State and local
governments are too easily swayed by powerful special interests not wholly-owned
and controlled by cynical, politically motivated liberals."In
other words, state and local governments are too likely to do what we, the
people want, less likely to ignore the people and listen to liberal hustlers.
I support any fed efforts to protect more land in the West. States like Utah
have a poor record of protecting the land. If not for the feds, much more of
our beautiful wilderness would be put under a bulldozer.
Should we just tell those hardworking ranch owners who have owned land there for
varying lengths of time, "Tough. Find something else to do." ? This does
not seem to be a protection of property rights.
We need to put oil wells pretty much everywhere. No need to save oil or wild
places for future generations.
I recently drove the highway between Hurricane and Fredonia, Arizona for the
first time in MANY years. I was astonished at the new housing developments that
have popped up along that road. Dry desert land filled with more houses.Somebody is making money off the deal.
@ Mav"So go ahead, sue the feds. Just make sure you do it on
your OWN time and OWN dime."If there's one thing
republicans have taught me over the my lifetime's history is that they are
NEVER afraid to spend someone else's paycheck. Republicans are
addicted to large spending, unsustainable government growth, and destroying the
Constitution. Just look for example, how government growth increased
and how spending skyrocketed from Clinton to Bush.Unsustainable tax
cuts, more government subsidies, TARP, bailouts, bridges to nowhere, wars, No
Child Left Behind, the F-22 (costs over 120 million per jet!). No
wonder why our surpluses were quickly overturned into massive amounts of debt.
Republicans are addicted to spending and government growth. They
love handouts and entitlements to oil companies, wall street, and the rich.Republicans are great... If you want your money to be handed out to
someone who hasn't earned your paycheck.The Republicans in Utah
are perfect examples of this. They will spend your hard earned tax money to sue
the federal government... IN order to benefit their special interest groups who
wish to take advantage of natural resources. Gee, thanks.
Monument:1. a statue, building or other structure erected to
commemorate a notable person or event.2. a structure or site of
historical importance or interest.3. an enduring and memorable
example or reminder.I suppose you could argue the last
definition?I oppose this designation of "monument" to huge
wilderness areas as an assault on the English language.Gay used to
mean "carefree"; love used to indicate intense affection for someone or
something, not lust; marriage meant the legal union of a man and woman. I
protest that the English language is being systematically or inadvertently
destroyed.And please let's beautify land or put it to use. If
your backyard was but a wilderness the neighbors would be understandably
concerned. If you were too old to improve it your neighbors hopefully would
help you out.
Nonsense. Scare tactics at their finest, is what this editorial
is.... No one other than a few angry and bought off state
legislators are still smarting over Clinton's creation of a national
monument which prevented the mining of precious resources there. The rest of us
either didn't care in the first place or have since moved on.Of
course, I cannot necessarily blame those legislators for still being angry. If I
were being bought off errr receiving "campaign contributions" from those
wanting to exploit Utah's natural resources, I'd be pretty angry too
about the federal government protecting those lands. Here's my
suggestion...If legislators want to waste money into suing the
federal government, that's fine. Just make sure that it comes out of their
OWN wallets. I don't want MY tax money to be wasted on something so
frivolous like suing the federal government over their creation of national
monuments in Utah.I personally, either will support the federal
government in protecting lands or am indifferent to millionaires wanting to
further exploit us. So go ahead, sue the feds. Just make sure you do
it on your OWN time and OWN dime.
Environmentally sensitive land in Utah is best served by having it controlled by
the federal government. State and local governments are too easily swayed by
powerful special interests. If Utah had their way they would sell Delicate Arch
to McDonalds and let them paint it gold. If you want your grandkids to have any
undeveloped wild spaces you had best keep it out of the clutches of locals.