Jewish movement in Israel OKs gay rabbis

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  • Baccus0902 Leesburg, VA
    April 20, 2012 3:12 p.m.


    My dear Zoar, you are right. I was just making a parallel and was illustrating that God does not exclude people from following him.

    You are also right, because Jesus never spoke about homosexuality while he was on Palestine, the Americas or after the restoration of the gospel.

    The biblical quotes that people use against homosexuality are from Leviticus mostly and Romans.Paul the only apostle who didn't meet Jesus in the flesh is the one who quote the writings of the old covenant on this issue.

    What I'm saying is that Paul was a Jew educated in the Law. Therefore, his perception of Jesus as many other of his contemporaries was that Christians were just another Jewish sect. It took an evolution period to separate themselves from Judaism.

  • zoar63 Mesa, AZ
    April 20, 2012 1:24 p.m.


    "The voice spoke to him a second time, “Do not call anything impure that God has made clean.”

    That vision had nothing to do with gays. It was about the Lord informing Peter that the gospel was now to be preached to the gentiles, which was confirmed with this later event.

    While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word.
    And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost.
    For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter,
    Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we?
    Acts 10:45-47

  • Kalindra Salt Lake City, Utah
    April 20, 2012 12:33 p.m.

    @ Clarissa: When the Torah was written there was no word equivalent to the modern word "homosexuality".

    There is a great deal of discussion and disagreement about the translations of various words used in the Torah - including the words that were translated as referring to homosexuality and the homosexual act. According to many interpretations, homosexuality itself (and acts within a homosexual relationship) are not outright condemned - there is a belief that there are certain situations - such as within a committed relationship - where homosexuality is acceptable.

    Additionally, the immoral practices that condemned Israel and Judah were greed, idolatry, and vanity. (Although "harlot" has come to be associated with fornication, its roots are in "vagabond" and "tramp" and used to refer to putting oneself on display - a.k.a. vanity.)

    This seminary is interpreting the Bible and their religion as being more focused on acceptance, inclusion, and love than on condemnation and exclusion. How do you know their interpretation is wrong and your interpretation is right?

  • Baccus0902 Leesburg, VA
    April 20, 2012 11:27 a.m.

    Clarissa, it is always interesting to see how so-called religious people, from any religion, like to use the scriptures to justify themselves and condemn the so-called sinners.

    The Apostle Peter was not exception. But God taught him a good lesson, Acts 10:9-16 " About noon the following day as they were on their journey and approaching the city, Peter went up on the roof to pray. He became hungry and wanted something to eat, and while the meal was being prepared, he fell into a trance. He saw heaven opened and something like a large sheet being let down to earth by its four corners.It contained all kinds of four-footed animals, as well as reptiles and birds. Then a voice told him, “Get up, Peter. Kill and eat.”

    “Surely not, Lord!” Peter replied. “I have never eaten anything impure or unclean.”

    The voice spoke to him a second time, “Do not call anything impure that God has made clean.”

    Gays and heterosexuals are children of God and all are or should be welcomed to work in his vineyard.

  • Clarissa Layton, UT
    April 20, 2012 10:52 a.m.

    I am reading the Bible. There is no way that they can condone these choices. I don't see how they can get around what it says in the Torah. The practices of immorally is what caused Israel and Judah to be destroyed if you believe the Bible. I guess if you commit yourself to a life of celibacy. Just another proof of the Last Days.