Gingrich campaign bounces check for Utah's ballot

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  • birwin Herrmian, UT
    April 11, 2012 1:12 p.m.


    Good statistics. Any way you cut it, its pots calling kettles black.

    Should anyone be proud to say "I'm not nearly as bad as you"...

  • RedShirt USS Enterprise, UT
    April 11, 2012 12:23 p.m.

    To "Esquire" unfortunately the publically released data from the GAO in the "Historical Tables: Budget of the U. S. Government" available on the GPO website, we find that the Democrats have been out spending the Republicans by a factor of 2.

    From 1981 to 1987 Congress was split and the debt increased by $1.3 Trillion
    From 1987 to 1995 Congress was controlled by Democrats and increased by $2.6 Trillion
    From 1995 to 2001 Congress was controlled by Republicans, and the debt increased by $849 Billion.
    From 2001 to 2003 Congress was split and the debt increased by $991 Billion
    From 2003 to 2007 Congress was controlled by Republicans and the debt increased by $2.19 Trillion.
    From 2007 to the 2011 budget estimate congress was controlled by Democrats and the debt increased by $6.19 Trillion.

    So, congress under a split control debt rises by $2.3 Trillion ($287 Billion/yr).
    Under Democrats it rises by $8.79 Trillion ($732 Billion/yr).
    Under Republicans it increased by $3 Trillion ($300 Billion/yr).

    So, judging by 30 years of history, the greatest increases to the national debt occur when Democrats control congress.

  • Esquire Springville, UT
    April 11, 2012 11:34 a.m.

    As for the red herring of passing a budget, much can be said. This is not really relevant to the deficit. Every agency operates under a budget and those budgets are approved by Congress in separate authorizations. An omnibus budget may not be passed, mostly due to the standing filibuster of the Republicans in the Senate. They will not allow the Democratic majority to pass its own budget as it would significantly alter the extremist budget of the House and a conference committee would likely fail because the Republicans in the House do not compromise. So the GOP can pass their political document (budget plan) in the House, knowing full well it will go no where. It is not done in good faith. It is a political game. But the GOP could make meaningful proposals to balance the budget, but beyond their games, they don't. Pick off the easy ones, like oil company subsidies or gambling write-offs for the wealthy, spending that most Democrats would go along with. Do they do even that? No. It's all political gamesmanship with the sole intention of regaining power. The last time they were in control, we got a serious recession.

  • Esquire Springville, UT
    April 11, 2012 11:25 a.m.

    @ ute alumni, Mountanman, and Rifleman, by reading your comments over time, nothing but RNCC and Fox talking points will register with you. The GOP fell off the rails as far back as the first full budget of the Reagan Administration when their first full budget literally tripled the annual budget from the last annual budget of the prior Administration. This all while campaigning on a platform of balancing the budget and less government spending. The only time we really saw anything close to a balanced budget was during the Clinton years, in the wake of a tax increase that Clinton pushed through. When the Republicans have been in total control, the nation's finances actually saw a dramatic worsening. Republicans will never see anything close to a balanced budget because they have their own pet spending (see, for example, Sen. Tom Coburn's (R-OK) report last year on government welfare for the rich), combined with their obsession to cut government revenue, particularly for the wealthy. That creates deficits, which then removes capital from the marketplace. The reality? Higher taxes actually creates more economic activity in the private sector. It may seem counter-intuitive to you, but it's true.

  • Rifleman Salt Lake City, Utah
    April 11, 2012 9:55 a.m.

    Re: Esquire Springville, UT
    "Republicans talk a big game about balancing the budget, but in practice, they are worse than the Democrats."

    It is easy to make a claim but more difficult to support with facts. If the claim is bogus it then requires bogus facts to back it up. What can't be hidden is our growing national debt with ever growing amount of money we are pouring down a rat hose in interest payments.

  • barbara Carlsbad, CA
    April 11, 2012 9:44 a.m.

    Maybe he could borrow money from the good folks of South Carolina.

  • Mountanman Hayden, ID
    April 11, 2012 7:56 a.m.

    @ Esquire. When will the democratically controlled Senate pass a budget, any budget? How many months, years before they do their constitutionally mandated job and pass a federal budget? It’s the Democrats who refuse to pass a budget and they couldn’t care less about balancing any budget! Is it because even THEY know they will never control spending anyway so why pass a meaningless budget! So it seems the facts are getting in the way of your argument about the Republicans who are not serious. A budget to a Democrat is useless, meaningless, a waste of their time, so why even try? “Darn the debt, spend on brothers”

  • ute alumni Tengoku, UT
    April 11, 2012 7:48 a.m.

    really and just where does your information come from? good luck in coming up with a coherent answer.

  • Esquire Springville, UT
    April 11, 2012 7:07 a.m.

    Republicans talk a big game about balancing the budget, but in practice, they are worse than the Democrats.

  • TOO Sanpete, UT
    April 11, 2012 6:10 a.m.

    Vote for me! I can't manage my own finances for a primary campaign, but I promise I'll do better with the national economy.

  • DeltaFoxtrot West Valley, UT
    April 10, 2012 8:36 p.m.

    Why does Gingrich think anyone in Mormontown USA would vote for him?

  • Rifleman Salt Lake City, Utah
    April 10, 2012 8:22 p.m.

    We already have a man in the White House who doesn't know how to balance a checkbook. Why would we think Gingrich can do any better?