Former BYU quarterback Max Hall believes this offseason is critical for Riley Nelson's success

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  • Tomahawk Red North Salt Lake, UT
    April 7, 2012 5:58 p.m.

    Y Grad / Y Dad
    Richland, WA

    And yet the mighty, vaunted, BCS, conference of champions Utah defense... failed to show up against the worst road team in all of college football.


    A commentary of how bad BYU really is.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    April 7, 2012 5:52 p.m.

    The greatest thing about Max, other than his winning record against utah, is that he is still in their heads after 2 1/2 years and probably always will be. Just like the great Austin Collie is still in their heads. These two guys inspired utah "fans" to make 1000's of t-shirts about them and the things they have to say. utah "fans" like to criticize BYU for slogans but BYU has never made a t-shirt about an opposing player.


  • gdog3finally West Jordan, Utah
    April 7, 2012 3:13 p.m.

    @Big Cougar.

    Yes Max was 2-1 against Utah, but he did not play well in any of those games. The two wins were home games. The first one came down to a low scoring 4th and 18 hail mary in the last minute The second was the overtime win where a Senior in Max Hall had horrible stats and beat a freshman in Jordan Wynn. Hall was to worried about hating Utah than playing well in that game. The one loss for Hall was when Utah blew out the Cougars and Hall threw 6 INTs and fumbled. He seemed to think that someone threw beverages on his family that night. It may have happened, but I was always bothered that the media just took in on face value.

  • 4601 Salt Lake City, UT
    April 7, 2012 10:47 a.m.

    Max Hall would be a footnote in BYU football if ute fans would stop confirming Hall's most inflammatory quote.

  • Y Grad / Y Dad Richland, WA
    April 6, 2012 9:31 p.m.


    And yet the mighty, vaunted, BCS, conference of champions Utah defense... failed to show up against the worst road team in all of college football.

    Explains a lot of things really.

    And CWEB, hope you enjoy sitting outside the stadium this season. Time will tell if you made the right choice, but if you end up wrong, it'll be in spades. You think Riley's best days are behind him, and they weren't all that much. I'm banking that he'll be enough better this year to turn some heads early, including at RES. But you might be able to get into the stadium in November.

  • 2BCSWINS West of I15, UT
    April 6, 2012 8:44 p.m.

    LOL at cougie fan's....One say's utah played like it was a BCS game against the Y. Funny I know you would be confused because Utah actually plays in BCS games. However we were playing the Y so there is no possible way it could have been a BCS game.

    Another cougie says Riely came in and mopped up Utah St. and the team rallied for him. No Kidding, it was Utah St. not Utah. What did Riely do when he came in for Jake against Utah? Nothing Utah actually has a defense. Against an above average defense Riely will always struggle where Jake actually has the tools to do something. Your blind or don't know much about football if you can't see that.

  • Just Smiling BOUNTIFUL, UT
    April 6, 2012 7:23 p.m.

    Serious byu fans- max hall is "awesome" and "righteous"? Read President Uchdorf's conference talk October 2010:Perhaps there is no better laboratory to observe the sin of pride than the world of sports. I have always loved participating in and attending sporting events. But I confess there are times when the lack of civility in sports is embarrassing. How is it that normally kind and compassionate human beings can be so intolerant and filled with hatred toward an opposing team and its fans? I have watched sports fans vilify and demonize their rivals. They look for any flaw and magnify it. They justify their hatred with broad generalizations and apply them to everyone associated with the other team. When ill fortune afflicts their rival, they rejoice.
    I want him as my son's hero....not!

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    April 6, 2012 1:59 p.m.

    I surely do love Max. His honest assmement of utah and its fans will forever endear him to me. I like a guy that will tell the truth regardless of the criticism he'll surely receive.

    Keep it up Max, they hate you because they know its all true.

  • RepresentBlue West Jordan, UT
    April 6, 2012 1:07 p.m.

    "Max is almost like a coach. They should pay him for being out here..."

    Sounds like a great idea to me! Why not make it official? Max Hall would make an excellent QB coach and BYU is in need of one. And its not like Max has an NFL career holding him back.

  • JMT Springville, UT
    April 6, 2012 10:05 a.m.

    I love it!

    Max Hall and Riley Nelson are cut from the same cloth. Neither is a prototypical quarterback yet they win. They are junkyard dogs. Max is much better at throwing, Riley much better at running, though both would pick a fight with a pittbull, only armed with a broken bottle. I know, rough metaphor but gotta love that junkyard dog in'm.

    I hope that Riley develops a better throw and delivery. If he can do that his game will double, yardage will triple and the wins improve. Great year last year, much better potential this year.

    Classic picture that should hang in the football field house for generations to come: Two junkyard dogs!!!

    Go BYU!

  • CWEB Orem, UT
    April 6, 2012 9:15 a.m.

    I'm a BYU fan, honestly, and I don't give two owl's "rooti-toots" what Max Hall believes. Max Hall was the most over-rated QB at BYU. Remember the six picks he threw at Utah? I'm supposed to be excited about Hall's comments? I'm not excited about Nelson, because he folds in big games, just like Hall did. So, for the first time in years, I did not buy season tickets...I can't pay money to watch Nelson chuck the ball up for grabs when "real" pressure hits!

    Not a fan of either one.

  • BYUalum South Jordan, UT
    April 5, 2012 11:51 p.m.

    I would LOVE to see BYU ask Max Hall to be the Quarterback Coach! Perfect match for a great player who would become a first rate coach. Come on Brono: make it happen!

  • Y Grad / Y Dad Richland, WA
    April 5, 2012 11:25 p.m.

    I would love an article once a week quoting Max. Not so much because he had anything to say but because of the way Ute fans still revere him. All we needed was a reprise of "magic happens" and I think they would have blown fuses up on the hill.

    Wayne? Just win, baby, win. Something Riley does.

  • Osgrath Provo, UT
    April 5, 2012 11:04 p.m.

    Wayne, please define your word, "discention." It's not in the American Heritage Dictionary, its not in Merriam Websters, it's not even at Googling it got me nothing.

    On the other hand, when it comes to dissension, you certainly are able to hold your own. As Voltaire might have said, "I'll defend to the death your right to say it," but that still doesn't make it accurate. As I recall, while Jake was in charge, there was dissension on the team, players - whether rightly or wrongly - were given half-hearted effort, they quit against Utah. Then Riley came in to mop up against USU and suddenly the entire was pulling together. Nobody denies that Jake has a stronger arm, but Jake did not provide half the leadership that Riley did, and non of Riley's intangibles.

    Whether Riley survives this season uninjured - well, we'll just have to see. But he is the logical choice to start the season. Not only was Jake completely ineffective, but he quit. I just cannot understand why you are so devoted to him.

  • CougarOnTheProwl Murray, UT
    April 5, 2012 9:08 p.m.

    Sounds like Riley is serious about improving his game, I like that he seeks the advice of Max Hall. BYU is in good hands with a leader like Riley at the QB position. He will see to it that they (he and the recievers,TE,RBs,etc) get together and work hard during the spring and summer when coaches cant be around.

  • Wayne Rout El Paso, TX
    April 5, 2012 7:40 p.m.

    Looks as if Max is smart enough to say things Bronco would like. Whatever happened to quarterbacks having to throw. Only at BYU under Bronco do we select a starting quarterback based on his off the field performance. Riley can't throw, he panics easily, he cause discention on the team. I wish he had stayed at USU.

  • BigCougar Bountiful, UT
    April 5, 2012 7:32 p.m.

    "Oh goody. Max is back to spread his high class hate to the rest of the team. I hope the rest of the team has the class and wisdom to ignore his garbage."

    On the contrary, judging by the way BYU just quit, laid down and rolled over for Utah in last year's game and the way that Utah kept their foot on the gas and never let up right to the final gun indicates that BYU doesn't hate Utah even an iota as much as Utah hates the Cougars. Judging by the effort and energy utah put into the game, you would have thought that game was Utah's BCS Bowl game. In contrast BYU looked like they were playing in their spring game.

    Max was 2-1 vs the Utes and since he left we're 0-2. I would say our players need a little more "Maxy" when they play the utes, not less.

  • BigCougar Bountiful, UT
    April 5, 2012 7:26 p.m.

    ""He should have been the starter in the first place, in my opinion," Hall told the Deseret News on BYU's Alumni Day, the final day of spring drills. "He overcame the adversity that came with not being the starter. He stuck in there and kept working hard and good things happened for him. He deserves it. He's a great kid, a hard worker, and he's a competitor. If anything, he'll compete and give it everything he has. That's what I like about him."

    Wow, Max tell us what you really think! Bronco, are you listening to Max? read his comments in the article, I think you have your next QB coach standing on the sidelines. Take those duties away from Doman and let him focus entirely on the offense.

  • Striker Omaha, NE
    April 5, 2012 7:13 p.m.

    Best decision Nelson ever made was to leave usu for BYU. He'll actually have a winning record playing football and graduate from a top notch school. Glad BYU has him now. He's a proven leader.

  • Proud Ute ,
    April 5, 2012 5:15 p.m.

    Alaska Coug,
    Little paranoid there? You know nobody is tougher on the Y than their own fans.
    Just ask Bronco and Jake Heaps.

  • sid 6.7 Holladay, UT
    April 5, 2012 2:29 p.m.

    I think it's really cool that Wendy's gave Max some extra time off to go and visit his Alma Matter.

  • duggity Bountiful, UT
    April 5, 2012 2:25 p.m.

    Oh goody. Max is back to spread his high class hate to the rest of the team. I hope the rest of the team has the class and wisdom to ignore his garbage. But then, I remember a talk by one of last years players at my ward saying how much better people are at BYU than at other places. (never mind that he had never lived outside of Utah beyond his mission) I can only assume the players are repeating the drivel that is coming down from above. These guys need to be talked to about how the things they say can and always will be held against the rest of the church and need to learn to think before they talk.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    April 5, 2012 2:19 p.m.

    Y Ask Y,

    Water boy? That's farther than you'll get.

  • Alaskan Coug Anchorage, AK
    April 5, 2012 1:50 p.m.

    7 comments mostly from Ute "Fans" - that of course have moved on to better things. Isn't there an article on the Utes spring practice somewhere? This is classic "little brother behaivor" just can't let go of "ALL THINGS BYU" Ute Fans Please move on.... remember your better then us now.. your in a BCS conf.

  • jdub1942 PROVO, UT
    April 5, 2012 1:32 p.m.

    "Max is almost like a coach. They should pay him for being out here," Nelson joked.
    is this against some NCAA policy?

  • MJB Tooele, UT
    April 5, 2012 12:25 p.m.

    We'll just have to wait to see if he can make better throws this fall. Hoping for the best.

  • Y Ask Y Provo, UT
    April 5, 2012 9:46 a.m.

    Max who? Hall, did you say?

    Oh, yes, I remember him. The guy whose Uncle Danny got him a season in Arizona as - what was it? Water boy?

  • Pickle Juice, The Key to a BCS Murray, UT
    April 5, 2012 9:43 a.m.

    Even though Max Hall stated on national television that he "hates Utah, and Utah's fans", I still love him. Truly, he really is sculpted out of pure righteousness.

  • Pickle Juice, The Key to a BCS Murray, UT
    April 5, 2012 9:37 a.m.

    Even though Max Hall hates Utah and everyone who graduated from there, I still love him. What's not to love? Awesome and classy.

  • Otis Spurlock Ogden, UT
    April 5, 2012 9:33 a.m.


    They never will lose another game. Yes folks, they are both that good.

  • Ernest T. Bass Bountiful, UT
    April 5, 2012 9:28 a.m.

    They are both chiseled out of pure awesome. Both should never loose another game.

  • sls Columbia, MO
    April 5, 2012 5:47 a.m.

    Wow, the headline should have been Max Hall's quote that Riley should have been the starter in the first place. Max is right. Too bad that the coaches and fans bought into the media hype surrounding a certain highly-recruited freshman.