'The Hunger Games' is not appropriate for anyone

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  • Mc West Jordan, UT
    March 29, 2012 10:32 a.m.

    I hope all our leaders will see this movie and read the books. It should give them a great appreciation for individual liberty and the horror of a society that would subjugate and force children to fight each other for survival. I loved the books and look forward to the next 2 movies. It makes you think and feel more than any I've experienced. Violence is not glorified. It is horrified!

    That Mitt Romney saw and liked the movie is a plus in my book. It means he understands how important it is to be free of government that would control our every action and choice. Those of you who are against this book and movie are rejecting it without deep thought or understanding and I am sorry for your loss. I am a better person for having experienced "The Hunger Games."

  • Wally West SLC, UT
    March 28, 2012 8:41 p.m.

    re: atl134

    "Some of you really need to understand the difference between fiction and nonfiction."

    Fox News is fiction, right?

    After all, FNC is the apex of sensationalizing & beating the same concept to death.

  • Puddles Grand Forks, ND
    March 28, 2012 1:03 p.m.

    I think that it is ironic that we always criticize pundits when they speak out against nudity but not violence. Yet here is someone speaking out against violence and there is backlash. I saw the movie and it made me cringe especially when the games first started. It was too violent when you consider the premise of the story and the audience it was targeted at.

    The first time i was most disappointed in our society (this was in Utah) was when I saw Inglorious B. I was studying World War II at the time and was excited about the film. I went into this knowing that it was rated R. History is rated R or worse. But this film was so violent, Historically Inaccurate and disappointing. But what disturbed me was that the audience in the theater was like a mirror image of the German audience from the movie. Every time a German soldier was brutally killed, the audience laughed. In the film every time an American was killed by a German soldier the German audience cheered and laughed. I was amazed at how amused our society has become at watching people die.

  • Sikeli Herriman, UT
    March 28, 2012 6:31 a.m.

    All this uproar over a movie. One that will probably be recognized as groundbreaking. And still hardly a whimper about children killing children for real in foreign countries as they are conscripted into armies, and even worse, in our cities full of gang violence and juvenile delinquents. If you don't like the movie's theme you have two things to do. First, don't bother to go see it. Second, crusade for change in our own society. Otherwise your words ring hollow.

  • Hutterite American Fork, UT
    March 27, 2012 10:09 p.m.

    If you are a person who knows the 'parents television council' exists, don't see this move. Just don't. Exercise your right to not. But don't expect me to follow suit. I may or may not, but I'll make my own mind up.

  • Howard Beal Provo, UT
    March 27, 2012 7:02 p.m.

    The guy up there forgot about the Mayan and Aztecs that practiced human sacrifice. Heck, it wasn't 70 years ago that leaders in Western Civilization were killing millions of people in the Holocaust. Ask those poor people of Tyre what happened when they resisted Alexander the Great--pretty much every male captured in the city killed, women and children sold into slavery. I won't even go into the Book of Mormon or Bible. Good observation how young many soldiers were in the American Revolutionary War, Civil War, and World War II, all SANCTIONED by the government.

    If anything we have come along way in actually being civilized and treating each other better. The good old days weren't the good old days at any stretch of the imagination.

    Plus, like Eric Samuelson said so well, perhaps the POINT of the movie (and book, lest we forget this was a book first and NOT a creation of "liberal" Hollywood producers) was to make us THINK about the direction of our current civilization and what direction we are heading. Sometimes art can be shocking and thought provoking.

  • spring street SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    March 27, 2012 4:35 p.m.

    how did you get from the movie or the book that the way their world ended up that way was because they thought the government was a solution to all their problems? that is a really big stretch by any imagination.

  • Earl Sandy, UT
    March 27, 2012 4:05 p.m.

    I'm really surprised that the political right (at least on this page) is so vociferous regarding the themes in this work. It's probably the closest thing we have to Brave New World that had and continues to have such an impact on its readers. It's the story of what happens when government takes total control of our lives. How can that be left-wing? If anything, it's anti-government! This should be seen by as many people as possible to be as a warning to encroaching government control of just about every aspect of our lives. GO SEE IT!! Let it be a warning to those who think government is the solution to every problem!

  • BigRich Orem, UT
    March 27, 2012 2:01 p.m.

    Good grief. Now a movie is part of the presidential campaign? What are you going to do, Esquire, if Obama says he liked it too? Where were you when Clinton was having sex in the Oval Office? What is your view of Gingrich trying to impeach Clinton while cheating on his own wife? Those are the kind of people you should be concerned about. Unfortunately, too many presidents have had low moral standards. Let's not keep moral men out of office because they chose to watch a PG-13 movie with their family. How do you know they didn't have a very meaningful discussion concerning the merits of violence in society and its portrayal in the arts after viewing it?

  • atl134 Salt Lake City, UT
    March 27, 2012 1:54 p.m.

    Some of you really need to understand the difference between fiction and nonfiction. Plus, some of you disgusted with fictional characters dying, are obsessed with the removal of a policy that provides health insurance to millions of people. You are the death panels.

  • 2 bits Cottonwood Heights, UT
    March 27, 2012 12:18 p.m.

    I agree the subject matter is shocking... but I think it was intended.

    I don't think it was intended to PROMOTE the fantasy society they lived in. Rather, it was intended as a WARNING... or where we DON'T want our society to go in the future.

    I think you have to read it in the frame of mind it was intended for. Keep in mind it is "fiction" and in the "fantasy" Genre. So you are not supposed to take it literally or emulate this fictional society went WAY, WAY, WAY over the lines of what is acceptable.

    I don't think it was intended to cheapen human life, but to warn AGAINST a society that has cheapened life to the point of being entertainment (which is a warning we could use).

    If this book is not appropriate for ANYBODY... we need to reconsider who should be reading the Book of Mormon. There was more killing in the Book of Mormon than in Hunger Games.

    I agree it's not appropriate if you can't handle a fantasy story illustrating drastic moral dilemmas.

    March 27, 2012 11:51 a.m.

    @john charity springs
    Fortunately John those of us on the left only need to look at the facts to see that we are a more just society then ever and as safe as we have been in at least the last 40 years in terms of crime and violence, but you feel free to hold onto your fear mongering.

  • VIDAR Murray, UT
    March 27, 2012 11:16 a.m.

    I think the letter writer needs to be less concerned with fictional violence, and more concerned about the real violence that is happening around the world.
    On a daily basis there is real violence that is broadcast into our homes via television news.
    I find it interesting that we preach for young men and women to be non-violent; yet when we feel there is a patriotic reason; we will then train them to kill; give them some of the most lethal weapons in the history of the world; and send them into another country to fight other young people who probably believe they are just defending their families.
    Sometimes war is necessary, however, if those who start wars, had to send their own kids, there probably would be fewer wars.
    Old men start wars, and young men die
    The rich profit from war, and the poor die

  • John Charity Spring Back Home in Davis County, UT
    March 27, 2012 10:52 a.m.

    Only the truly out of touch fail to recognize that modern Hollywood is dominated by the left wing. These Hollywood directors, producers, and actors give huge sums to left wing candidates and also lead the fight for left wing causes like the attack on traditional marriage and the effort to remove all restrictions on abortion. Clearly, Hollywood is a tool of the left wing.

  • Hank Pym SLC, UT
    March 27, 2012 10:02 a.m.

    per LDS Liberal 9:11 a.m. March 27, 2012

    "It’s a fictional book and a fictional movie."

    People had a conniption about the DaVinci Code a few yrs ago. I pointed out it too was fiction. I learned Social conservatives love to hop up on the soapbox about the least little sign of alleged moral decay. Really its all they have IMO.

  • Eric Samuelsen Provo, UT
    March 27, 2012 9:43 a.m.

    A fundamental principle of drama is that portrayal does not equal advocacy. Shakespeare's Richard III shows a vicious sociopath murdering his way to power. But the point of the play is that power-mad fanatics do exist, and need to be opposed.
    The Hunger Games portrays what it specifically does not advocate--the use of violence for the purpose of popular entertainment. It takes the phenomenon of reality TV to its logical extreme. It does so to warn us against such excesses. It also portrays grace and courage and the possibility of humanity in the midst of totalitarian horror.
    It is, in other words, a finely crafted, morally responsible work of fiction.
    Some comments here have compared it to the Roman games. Excellent comparison--this film shows a society sufficiently depraved to turn human murder into live entertainment. That's what Hunger Games is attacking. Our society isn't as depraved as Rome, but we might imagine circumstances in which we become so depraved. This film is intended as a corrective--and it pulls it off. Good film, with a moral purpose. Glad I saw it, glad I took my family, glad we talked about it together afterwards.

  • LDS Liberal Farmington, UT
    March 27, 2012 9:11 a.m.

    It’s a fictional book and a fictional movie.

    Yet, ironically -- Conservatives think sending REAL 18 year olds to fight REAL wars for OIL is somehow O.K. and Morally justified?

    BTW – in WWII the age was 16, and the Nazi used 14 year olds, the American Civil War used 14 years olds, and the American Revolution sent 12 year olds.

  • Darrel Eagle Mountain, UT
    March 27, 2012 8:31 a.m.

    I am going to guess that the letter writer has not seen the movie, if so the point was entirely missed.

    The violdence was not glamorized (in fact it was played down from the books), but was a means used to tell a story. The story was meant to be shocking, and if one did not find it shocking I suggest they attend therapy. It was a movie about how society can be so depraved that they celebrate killing of children, and that it eventually wakes up and realizes it is wrong and the rebellions that follow.

  • CHS 85 Sandy, UT
    March 27, 2012 8:25 a.m.

    @Mike Richards

    If you didn't research the subject matter of the movie by either reading the book or even a synopsis, then you have no one to blame but yourself for being jarred by the subject matter.

  • CHS 85 Sandy, UT
    March 27, 2012 8:24 a.m.

    I remember when I was in high school, I was required to read a book that dealt with death on a monumental scale. The final battle scene in the book had upwards of 10,000 deaths with one race annihilating another. The violence was off the charts, yet for some reason, it was a great book for me to read and I was encouraged to read it, and have been encouraged to continue reading it on a daily basis.

    Now, I'm not trying to compare "The Hunger Games" to scripture, but trust me, "The Hunger Games" is not the first and only time teens will be exposed to violence.

  • Esquire Springville, UT
    March 27, 2012 8:23 a.m.

    Mitt Romney took his grandkids to see this past weekend. He loved it and had no problem with younger kids seeing it (see his CNN interview). It left me with further doubts about the man and gave me more reasons to support someone else with strong family values, President Obama.

  • Ernest T. Bass Bountiful, UT
    March 27, 2012 8:14 a.m.

    As well all know all previous civilizations were much less violent than this one. Nobody ever fed other humans to lions for entertainment (real as opposed to Hunger Games' pretend). The Chinese never constructed a 3,000 mile long wall to keep out warring tribes. Those tribes in South America never practiced infanticide when they got too large to support.
    Yep, this is the only bad civilization.

  • John Charity Spring Back Home in Davis County, UT
    March 27, 2012 7:52 a.m.

    This left wing movie truly represents the worst of what modern Hollywood has to offer. The fact that parents are taking their children to see this movie is proof that society has degenerated significantly in the last 50 years.

    Modern Hollywood continues to produce movies which glorify violence, with each new movie being more violent than the last. These movies portray violence as just another form of recreation, with no consequences whatsoever.

    Is it any wonder that there is an epidemic of violent crime amongst the juvenile population? Is it surprising that public schools have become some of the most dangerous places in America?

    The public can no longer afford to ignore the irrefutable fact that children who grow up watching violent movies become adults who egage in violent crime at a far greater rate than the general population. Any parent who cares about the welfare of his child, and the welfare of society, must prevent his child from seeing the Hunger Games.

  • Mike Richards South Jordan, Utah
    March 27, 2012 7:34 a.m.

    I agree with Elizabeth Tew about the "Hunger Games". The movie is about a society that has become so depraved that they watch kids killing kids. The theater was full of people watching people who watched kids killing kids. Unfortunately, I was one of those people in the audience. It was a sickening experience for me.

    Throughout the movie, I wondered whether what I was doing was that much different than being part of the Roman Circuses where the people watched gladiators kill each other or whether what I was doing was that much different than watching the Nazis round up the Jews for slaughter.

    The reality of that movie is that we are just as depraved as the people portrayed on the screen if we think its entertainment to watch kids killing kids - even if it's just a movie.