Fair election system?

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  • On the other hand Spanish Fork, UT
    March 25, 2012 2:44 a.m.

    @Mike Richards, the caucus system may be the product of simplistic reasoning, but that doesn't make it simple. And it's hardly representative, so I can't imagine how anyone could call it fair. It's nothing less than mass disenfranchisement, which is not something to be proud of. You say, "the system works." What does that mean? The government of China "works", too. The fact that the caucus system results in names on the general election ballot isn't anything to write home about.

  • Steven S Jarvis Orem, UT
    March 23, 2012 9:21 p.m.

    The Caucus system reminds me of the electoral college. Unlike the EC, the caucus system is more adjustable and a reasonable way to winnow a field of candidates down to a primary list.
    In regards to the Senator race, there are at least a dozen candidates to choose from. The Caucus system is winnowing the field to just two (or one if 60% is achieved). It may be better to adjust that to a field of three or four if a primary happens.

    The Caucuses will improve as they have the last two times. For one, they are advertised now.

  • Mike Richards South Jordan, Utah
    March 23, 2012 11:39 a.m.

    LDS Liberal,

    The nominating convention takes place next month. Mr. Hatch is not on the ballot. Do you know something that no one else in the Republican Party knows?

  • PeanutGallery Salt Lake City, UT
    March 23, 2012 11:35 a.m.

    Re: Mike Richards, RedShirt: Insightful comments. Well said. I agree. Our caucus system works just fine, and does not need to be changed.

  • Redshirt1701 Deep Space 9, Ut
    March 23, 2012 11:06 a.m.

    To "LDS Liberal" fair is a fallacy perpetuated by the liberally minded people.

    Orrin curently does not have unwaivering support, so you can continue to believe the lies you are fed, or you can look at reality.

  • LDS Liberal Farmington, UT
    March 23, 2012 9:48 a.m.

    Mike Richards, RedShirt, and others…

    So you’ll agree that Orrin Hatch can expect your unwavering support and vote.
    Since, it appears your delegates will pick him, as your Representatives at the convention.

    Fair is fair….

  • Redshirt1701 Deep Space 9, Ut
    March 23, 2012 9:24 a.m.

    To "Jeffrey D. Driggs" there is not way to have a completely "fair" system. "Fair" is not something that can be determined. What you think is unfair, others think is fair.

    We live in a representative democracy. That means that we elect people who most represent our ideas and values. While you think it is not fair that your values are not reflected 100% of the time, there are others who may feel that their values are perfectly reflected in the canidate.

    What you are proposing to do would be to eliminate the representative democracy and go to a straight democracy where everybody has an equal voice. How well do you think things would work if everybody voted for every piece of legislation? Would that be "fair" to turn everybody into a full time poltician?

  • Mike Richards South Jordan, Utah
    March 23, 2012 7:38 a.m.

    Do we know how our Senators will vote? Do we know how our Representatives will vote? Do we know what the school board will do? Do we know anything before hand?

    What we can find out is HOW those seeking office voted in other offices. We can find out whether they consistently stood for the principles that we, as a Party, consider to be fundamental. We can learn of the candidates' character and then we can elect those candidates who have integrity.

    In the caucus, we elect candidates who stand for OUR principles. Assuming that no one gets 60% of the vote at the nominating convention, at the Primary we vote for the individual who most closely holds our personal views.

    The system works. It's simple. It's fair. It's modelled after our federal system.